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Post by Palatial Regalia on Dec 21, 2007 12:33:47 GMT -5
AJ in a turkey/reindeer suit isn't meant to be the top storyline in TNA or anything. He's playing the role of the goofy sidekick right now, so him being in these situations makes sense with his character. I don't think he's nearly as upset about it as you are honestly. Agreed. AJ is basically Christian 2.0.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 21, 2007 12:45:18 GMT -5
Him ending up in a suit twice in two months is going somewhere I think. I think he's gonna snap out of this whole mentla midget thing he's been doing because he's getting sick of being made to look like a fool.
Who knows.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 21, 2007 12:46:08 GMT -5
AJ should come out dressed like this... I still can't believe that was an alternate suit in the Acclaim WWF games.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 21, 2007 13:38:31 GMT -5
AJ silently agreeing to put on the reindeer suit and not fighting to keep his dignity would have been FAR, FAR more damaging to his credibility than what he actually did on last night's show.
Each time he had to put on the goofy costume, he acted as if it was beneath him.
Note that only after he threw a long hissy fit and he was totally emotionally defeated did he attempt to hug Kurt. Had he reached out to Kurt upon his entrance to the ring, it would have made him look seriously bad.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 21, 2007 14:52:03 GMT -5
I said last night what would have been even cooler was if AJ hit the referees and left refusing to put the suit on.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 21, 2007 16:13:00 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, it looks like AJ is having a good time with his new character. From most accounts I have heard, AJ is a legitimately funny guy who loves to joke around. Plus, he has been the high-spot king for so long in TNA, it's cool to see his personality actually get a chance to shine. The biggest assets in wrestling have great workrate AND great personality. AJ has shown he has both.
Plus, you have to figure... AJ is still at the top of the card, if only by association. He is an integral factor in TNA and his chemistry with Tomko is great. Tomko has the old Batista demeanor when everyone was on the Batista bandwagon right before Wrestlemania 21.
And personally.... I have never cared for Eric Young. And with Black Machismo being one long joke (don't get me wrong, I love Jay Lethal... just you have to admit, the point of this gimmick is just one joke).... it's nice to see AJ with the versatility to be comedic on his own, plus comedic at his expense.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Dec 21, 2007 17:21:07 GMT -5
AJ was in the main event last night and probably had more airtime than anyone except for Eric Young, and he's supposed to be buried?? And people say that TNA doesn't make any sense lol.
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Post by Danimal on Dec 21, 2007 21:10:53 GMT -5
AJ ending up in the suit was too obvious.
But he was one-on-one in the main-event and he only lost after Angle distracted him. I wouldn't say he was buried that bad.
The thing is where are they going with what they did tonight? Will he become a face, serious, Cage-protege, or tease then swerve back towards Angle? I would just hope tonight is part of a story-line and not just another AJ is a goof moment.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 21, 2007 21:42:39 GMT -5
meh why take styles so seriously? His fans are so fickle they want him to be the bland babyface FACE of the company.
Screw that
He's awesome as a confused man-boy who is looking for love in all the wrong places.
Whenever Russo books AJ it he always has to have AJ with some weird homosexual overtones and undertones.
but i really prefer goofy AJ...eh him winning and being a focal point of the show is pretty much as big a push as he's going to get with TNA's current main eventers...plus his wrestling has also improved 10 fold ever since he learned how to sell.
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Post by Save_Us.Voicebox on Dec 23, 2007 0:47:12 GMT -5
I don't know, but seeing as the matches are predetermined, and some of the angles over the years have been out there, I don't think it's something that should be meant to be taken seriously. Just entertainment, it's not like it's real competition or anything. Wrestling was hell of a lot better even though people knew the same thing in the 80's and 90's, it's supposed to be entertaining and BAD COMEDY IS NOT ENTERTAINING. Just curious here. Not trying to be a dick. This is a serious question. Do you like Undertaker? Do you take it seriously that he can command lightning and fire and actually controls the lighting in the arena? Jed Shaffer ~One look at the website this forum is attached to should show you that even those IN the business don't take it seriously. That's cute, do you like to watch cartoons? I bet you do because hey you don't have to take them seriously right? Oh but there is a problem, THEY SUCK. When i watch wrestling it's supposed to be entertaining, watching a man dress as a reindeer is NOT entertaining neither is the Undertaker. It's like Cornette said, it's scripted but you don't have to shove it in people's face. Respect your damn audience. I agree with you on how dumb the AJ booking is, but dude, LEARN HOW TO QUOTE
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Dec 23, 2007 0:58:04 GMT -5
Why should i watch something that i don't take seriously? You're exactly right, you shouldn't. That way, it saves you from having to complain, and it saves those of us who like to have serious conversations about wrestling from having to read these bullshit threads that people make to complain about the product that they choose to continue watching week in and week out, then horribly overreact to someone disagreeing with them or asking a question or speaking in general. I swear to God, this is the most annoying thing of all time, and I once had to listen to Clay Aiken on the radio while getting novocaine injected into both sides of my jaw.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2007 1:48:43 GMT -5
I think it's really funny when people throw temper tantrums on the internet over wrestling shows. "Ha-ha" funny?....yes. Am I laughing at or with them? Definitely at.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 23, 2007 2:04:19 GMT -5
The reindeer costume was a very old school Tennessee rasslin' angle, but I don't think AJ came out any worse for wear out of it. You could've put 1993 Shawn Michaels in that angle on a hypothetical old WWF Christmas special, and it would've come off exactly the same for entertainment purposes (if you were entertained by it), and HBK probably would've wound up having the same career. It wasn't hilarious or anything, but it was as good as it gets for "chickenshit heel doesn't want to put on a costume after he lost a match", a booking device used for roughly 50 years in professional wrestling.
If A.J. wasn't funny and they tried to push him in this comedy role, then I'd have a problem with it. He's actually pretty entertaining, and when it comes time for him to break out of the lackey character (and that time will come), he'll be better off as a singles main-event type wrestler than if he was stuck in the 2004 version of his character that was phenomenal in the ring, but cringe-inducing on the mic.
Now, TNA has proof that he can carry the ball as an on-camera performer to supplement his great athletic ability, and I'd think they'd be more likely to have confidence in using him at the very top in the future. Before this character development, he was a guy who could steal the show on PPV, sure. But in the end, what good is that when nobody's ordering your PPVs to see him steal the show?
A.J. isn't necessarily being used how I'd book him if I were in charge, but I don't think it's the end of the world, and at least he's very good at playing this role.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 23, 2007 2:13:52 GMT -5
The reindeer costume was a very old school Tennessee rasslin' angle, but I don't think AJ came out any worse for wear out of it. You could've put 1993 Shawn Michaels in that angle on a hypothetical old WWF Christmas special, and it would've come off exactly the same for entertainment purposes (if you were entertained by it), and HBK probably would've wound up having the same career. It wasn't hilarious or anything, but it was as good as it gets for "chickencrap heel doesn't want to put on a costume after he lost a match", a booking device used for roughly 50 years in professional wrestling. If A.J. wasn't funny and they tried to push him in this comedy role, then I'd have a problem with it. He's actually pretty entertaining, and when it comes time for him to break out of the lackey character (and that time will come), he'll be better off as a singles main-event type wrestler than if he was stuck in the 2004 version of his character that was phenomenal in the ring, but cringe-inducing on the mic. Now, TNA has proof that he can carry the ball as an on-camera performer to supplement his great athletic ability, and I'd think they'd be more likely to have confidence in using him at the very top in the future. Before this character development, he was a guy who could steal the show on PPV, sure. But in the end, what good is that when nobody's ordering your PPVs to see him steal the show? A.J. isn't necessarily being used how I'd book him if I were in charge, but I don't think it's the end of the world, and at least he's very good at playing this role. Well put...
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 23, 2007 2:14:32 GMT -5
I just felt bad that after taking repeated big bumps off of the ladder, all that comes out of the match is an "embarassment" sketch that will only be mentioned in passing.
AJ worked hard in that match, but the reindeer suit was all that mattered.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2007 3:26:00 GMT -5
AJ worked hard in that match, but the reindeer suit was all that mattered. Are you actually talking about the wrestling match in literal terms, or just using it for a metaphor to describe my life? Because either way, you're correct.
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Post by greate on Dec 23, 2007 4:33:11 GMT -5
So basicly i'm flamed for taking things too "seriously" yet someone here said..........
You're exactly right, you shouldn't. That way, it saves you from having to complain, and it saves those of us who like to have serious conversations about wrestling from having to read these bullreindeer droppings threads that people make to complain about the product that they choose to continue watching week in and week out
Just for the record, i do not watch the program week in week out and i thought this was a wrestling DISCUSSION board so i don't see a reason why i shouldn't express my opinion on something.
I think it's really funny when people throw temper tantrums on the internet over wrestling shows. "Ha-ha" funny?....yes. Am I laughing at or with them? Definitely at.
I think it's really funny you actually bothered to write that considering you had nothing of importance to say.
If A.J. wasn't funny and they tried to push him in this comedy role, then I'd have a problem with it.
My original point was that he shouldn't be that guy.
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Post by comahan on Dec 23, 2007 4:36:12 GMT -5
My argument is that hes no further down on the totem pole than he would be as his old, bland character, except now he has personality. He's exactly the same in-ring as he used to be, but with a bit of a heel element implemented into his matches.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 23, 2007 4:37:11 GMT -5
Heh.
I had no idea about this thread before I messed with the filters for a christmas-y theme.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Dec 23, 2007 4:38:11 GMT -5
AJ plays the gimmick extremely well, and despite it amking him seem less and less like the main eventer he used to be, he's doing a damn fine job of playing this naive, and dopey gimmick very well. but it is pretty dumb to do another costume match.
i can guess the main event for the Easter Impact already.
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