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Post by erisi236 on Apr 8, 2008 22:37:48 GMT -5
I never understood the "shot in the eyes" thing. What was he being shot with, a Pellet Gun?  |
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Apr 8, 2008 22:40:30 GMT -5
I never understood the "shot in the eyes" thing. What was he being shot with, a Pellet Gun? He's just that badass Erisi, being shot in the brain will not stop him! |
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 8, 2008 23:56:10 GMT -5
I like the first 2. 3rd had nothing to do with Michael Myers, so don't know why it was even called Halloween 3 but I'll let it slide. 4,5, and 6 were alright. Nothing too bad. Just different. starting at 7 is when it got shitty.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 9, 2008 0:08:09 GMT -5
I actually saw 2 before I saw 1. And it was on TNT's Monstervision, with Joe Bob Briggs. Joe Bob and Michael Myers...a winning combination if ever there was one. And that scalding water death was great!
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 9, 2008 0:32:24 GMT -5
as much as i love H2, it created the whole "Micheal & Laurie are siblings" which Carpenter regrets to this day That in and of itself doesn't even bother me, it's the fact that it let the sequels spin off into a whole bunch of "WTF?" directions that gets to me. Exactly - it's done extremely well and to great effect in this movie, and actually makes a great deal of sense. It's in the later sequels where it delves into unholy craptiness. As for the whole "shot in the eyes" thing, if there is a scene in these first two movies that cements Myers' status (imo, anyway) as THE most badass, menacing horror villain ever, that was it. Bleeding from FREAKING BULLET WOUNDS to both eyes, and the man keeps coming forward like the Terminator. As for that sig, I didn't foresee kruegerite87 (the man who created the gif) deleting his account when I used it as a sig, and thus I didn't save it to my computer. And unfortunately, I'm not tech savvy enough to create gifs of my own. EDIT: I'm actually quite fond of my current "Jason with reflection in water" sig - probably my favorite one I've had in a long time. I might be keeping it for a while. |
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Post by -Lithium- on Apr 9, 2008 0:33:45 GMT -5
I remember as a kid I never saw the first Halloween but I saw the second, and Myers still coming while on fire definatlly stayed with me.
And the remake did have alot of flaws, like Myers mainly starting his killing cause he had a messed up family, but as a stand alone movie I really liked it. Oh and the ending is one of my favorites. The way the music hit just as they went to the home movies was real cool...
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 9, 2008 1:01:08 GMT -5
 HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH 1982 Director: Tommy Lee Wallace Before I get started, I'll just begin by saying that I won't bore everybody with the story of how this movie came to be. It's all been hashed and rehashed, as has the story of where the series was to go from this point. I will, however, say that I have absolutely no problem with the concept of the series from here on out. The first two "Halloween" films (and you could even splice them together to make one super horror epic) make up a three-hour, damn near perfect horror opus, telling a complete story of pure, unadulturated human evil. And John Carpenter rightly felt this as well - thus, the anthology route... My point is this: I have absolutely no problem with the series going the way of an anthology series from here on out. It's important to point this out, because Doctor Doom did an excellent job describing the merits of this decision in his "Halloween Retrospective" thread. It's just THIS PARTICULAR STORY that I didn't especially care for. This is one of the least seen films in the series, so a little plot description is in order. The film opens with a toy shop owner running from figures in business suits, and eventually winding up in the care of Dr. Dan Challis (Tom Atkins - what an underrated actor. Ever see the flick "Night of the Creeps?" Great movie). Challis, along with the owner's daughter (Stacey Nelkin), begin an investigation into the death. Periodically throughout the movie's first trimester, we are frequently shown perhaps the film's most iconic images - the commercials for the Silver Shamrock halloween masks. At first, these commercials seem to be just window dressing for this Halloween-themed movie, but they take on a much greater significance as the film goes on... It seems that the Silver Shamrock company is headed by an evil mastermind, using the powers of witchcraft in some sort of twisted Samhain worship. The film's best scene involves one use of this plot - won't spoil it for those who haven't seen the film, but the effects that the Silver Shamrock masks have on children are quite interesting. I just didn't feel that this story was up to snuff. This movie HAS been seen by quite a few people because it has the name "Halloween" attached to it - but really, merely called "Season of the Witch" as some people have suggested, it would be just another nondescript '80s horror flick - no better or worse than many like-themed films of the time. The story itself is a mixed bag. The first and second acts are actually very good - it's when the movie has to get to the big payoff when it falters. In this regard, it's actually comparable to A LOT of modern-day thrillers that show up in theaters ("The Number 21" and "Hide and Seek" come to mind immediately for me) - fascinating openings when the story is shrouded in mystery, but the second all is revealed, it all turns to crap. While Atkins is definitely memorable, as he is in everything, Nelkin is not. The character is unbelievably bland and cookie cutter, and the romance between her character and Atkins feels contrived in the absolute worst way. I actually feel that this movie would be improved drastically by removing the character entirely - having Atkins go at it with Silver Shamrock alone would have given the movie a much more heroic, Sam Loomis-type vibe. Overall, I could have definitely dug a "Halloween" series with no Michael Myers. The first two movies were fantastic, with the second delivering a fitting, explosive end for the iconic character. It's just that this particular installment underachieves - I would have loved to have seen more stand-alone stories. ** 1/2 |
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Post by plushtar on Apr 9, 2008 10:59:51 GMT -5
Horribly underappreciated. I feel that fans are just too ungrateful that Carpenter used Myers to his limits. It was this ungratefulness that led to bad sequels. No matter how well this film would have done, the ungrateful fan boys would have forced production companies to bring back Myers.
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Post by amsiraK on Apr 9, 2008 11:34:06 GMT -5
Halloween 3... It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be. And considering some of the brain-frying sequels that followed (what was with that guy with the silver-tipped boots? And who wants to watch Josh Hartnett do ANYTHING?!?), perhaps Carpenter's idea of an anthology series would've been better. I think it's tagging it with the name "Halloween" that was both good and bad for it. Good, because without it, as you said, it would've been ignored amidst a sea of other franchise-less horror offerings in the 80s.
And bad because the way people flipped out about this "NOT BEING A HALLOWEEN MOVIE! WHERE'S MICHAEL MYERS?!?!?", you'd think Carpenter had kicked their mom in the face.
1&2 are the gold standard of the 'slasher' genre. You don't get more soulless-killer than the man in the Shatner mask.
Exactly. That was the glory of the first two films. You got served some Grade-A Horror and yet still had to let your imagination fill in the blanks. "Samhain? What the hell does THAT mean? Holy crap, how much MORE evil is he gonna get?"
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Post by hollywood on Apr 9, 2008 11:45:19 GMT -5
I definitely enjoy Halloween III, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.  |
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 9, 2008 11:47:37 GMT -5
I also agree that Halloween should have become an anthology series.
It probably would have had a "Masters of Horror" vibe to it except with an umbrella theme (Halloween) if it had continued in this direction.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 9, 2008 12:53:26 GMT -5
Season of the Witch is actually my favorite film in the series.
I always preferred Jason Voorhees over Michael Myers. ;D Sorry, I saw the F13 series before I had seen any of the Halloween series.
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Post by Paul Is Deadpool R.I.P on Apr 9, 2008 12:56:36 GMT -5
Jason Voorhees is 10X better than Myers. Jason is just more bad ass. He's been to hell, and comeback. Thats just awesome.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Apr 9, 2008 13:05:11 GMT -5
I like Halloween 3 in a cheesy kind of way, but re-watching it the other night on TV for the first time in forever, it was very cheesy.
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Post by Jiren on Apr 9, 2008 13:09:30 GMT -5
Part 4 is were Halloween stopped being good
But i have slight resentment for part 4 because it starts the Thorn Saga
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 9, 2008 13:10:44 GMT -5
While Jason is more bad-ass than Michael, none of his movies quite live up to the standards of the first two Halloweens.
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Post by Paul Is Deadpool R.I.P on Apr 9, 2008 13:12:03 GMT -5
While Jason is more bad-ass than Michael, none of his movies quite live up to the standards of the first two Halloweens. I completely dis-agree. Friday the 13th's 1-4 as well as part 6 and 7 are great movies. |
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 9, 2008 13:56:20 GMT -5
Part 4 is were Halloween stopped being good But i have slight resentment for part 4 because it starts the Thorn Saga Part 4 is were Halloween stopped being good But i have slight resentment for part 4 because it starts the Thorn Saga 4 is pretty much where I stop too. While I agree Carpenter didn't need to re-introduce the Michael story, I'm glad he did cos I reallly enjoy 4. As far as I'm concerned had the series ended there I would've been happy. God, I love that ending! |
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Post by Jiren on Apr 9, 2008 14:20:55 GMT -5
Part 4 is were Halloween stopped being good But i have slight resentment for part 4 because it starts the Thorn Saga Part 4 is were Halloween stopped being good But i have slight resentment for part 4 because it starts the Thorn Saga 4 is pretty much where I stop too. While I agree Carpenter didn't need to re-introduce the Michael story, I'm glad he did cos I reallly enjoy 4. As far as I'm concerned had the series ended there I would've been happy. God, I love that ending! Part 4 would have been a great ending to the series Better than Resurrection anyway *shudder* |
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Apr 9, 2008 14:41:01 GMT -5
Guess I'll be the lone voice of dissent here and say that Halloween 3 deserves NO stars. It is, by far, one of the WORST movies I've ever been tortured with. The Halloween name has nothing to do with the bad quality; it's just 100%, unadulterated CRAP. A ridiculous premise, coupled with cheesy, Z-grade acting ... no. Just no.
Jed f'n Shaffer
~And while Halloween 1 is better then the F13 series, I enjoy Jason more.
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