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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 0:54:10 GMT -5
Tazz losing his feud with Jerry Lawler: Tazz comes in as a ruthless badass who attacks JR for no reason. Then loses to the color commentator.
Bradshaw from midcard Tag Wrestler to World Champion: Even though JBL is overall a great character. The whole push was so forced and came out of no where. It was like they just pulled a name out of a hat and decided to make him champ.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 2, 2008 0:58:17 GMT -5
Even more than the InVasion, I'm thinking their biggest boner was giving Hogan the title at WM9 -- and it's not just blind Hogan hate driving me to say that. They had just gone through a transition period where they were getting away from Hogan and the bodybuilder types of the '80s and focusing on smaller, more athletic guys. At a time when they needed to do everything possible to legitimize this "new generation," especially against a monster heel like Yokozuna, they instead panicked at the slumping business (which had been slumping long before Bret Hart became champ) and went back to their old meal ticket, Hogan, who then did ... nothing. For two months. He didn't help attendance figures or merchandise or anything because he wasn't on TV, or at house shows, or anywhere. Hogan leaves, and the WWF immediately is in the position of having to find a new Hogan, since Hogan the Giant Killer was the only one who had been able to handle Yokozuna. This leads to the awful Luger push, and eventually, when that failed, they put Bret Hart on top. Which is where they had been anyway in early 1993. That one pointless Hogan episode cost them more than a year of product development at a time when they were already hurting. It also catapulted Hogan right into WCW, where he ended up being part of the re-invention that nearly put the WWF out of business. That may be the most well thought out argument on the whole Hogan winning at Mania 9 I've ever seen. Kudos.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2008 2:02:24 GMT -5
one word... Invasion It was the most anticipated thing to happen of the era and it was a one-sided squash. Hey now......it wasn't *totally* one sided. It had its moments. Few, and very far between, but there were some moments here and there. Now if you want to talk about one sided squashes........DDP vs. Taker/Sara. DDP got about 2 offensive moves in for THE ENTIRE FEUD. By comparison, enhancement talent gets more moves in than that. THAT was a one-sided squash. And don't forget the part where DDP lost....to the Undertaker's WIFE!
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jan 2, 2008 2:28:31 GMT -5
To this day I don't understand why Hogan/Flair didn't happen when it should have.
Of course the Invasion angle. This topic has come up three times in the past few days without me mentioning it first. I just can't understand why this angle was ruined.
RVD not getting the green light when he was mega over and performed great in the ring. Demons be damned, they gave a lot more guys the lime light when they didn't need to be there.
Raven. He's one of the only guys that I see that had a gimmick that could have worked with being the villain damn near anyone the roster during his tenure in WWF/WWE.
Jericho being the Undisputed Champion. I wanted him with the belt, but that angle was a bad idea. Tow the company line all you want. Just wrong.
The Million Dollar Man never being the world champion.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 2, 2008 2:42:56 GMT -5
I'd just like to mention not having a blowoff match for Austin vs Angle.
In 2001 they were in a storyline for months, it started out as Angle wanting to hang out with Austin, Angle and Austin as the 2 top guys in the company, Austin going heel and Angle becoming a massive badass. The feud was excellent, and the final match is at Vengeance, and it's not even the main event. If they didn't want to do Austin vs Hogan, the Austin Angle feud was right there for Wrestlemania. The feud should have ended at Wrestlemania, instead of ending when it did.
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Post by THRJamesAngelo on Jan 2, 2008 2:48:28 GMT -5
Tazz and Raven were 2 big ones. I always thought Tazz wouldve been a perfect IC title holder, considering people already knew who he was and his character.
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Post by skiller on Jan 2, 2008 5:43:43 GMT -5
Everything they did to Randy Orton after he won the world title.
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Post by Max on Jan 2, 2008 5:49:23 GMT -5
smh@ calling rey with the belt the worst booking decision ever.
Eddiesploitation... now thats bad booking, NOTHING good came out of it that would've happened had Eddiesploitation not been done.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2008 5:58:09 GMT -5
Mysterio getting the belt? Fine.
Jobbing him to two big monsters two weeks in a row whilst Champion? Pretty Damn Stupid.
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Post by Loki on Jan 2, 2008 5:59:57 GMT -5
I'll add one for not having a real Flair v Hogan program around 1991-1992.
Hogan winning the title at WMIX sent the fans home happy, but, as brilliantly explained by Aceorton, undid at least 9 months of booking and put WWF back to square one.
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Post by rubber johnny on Jan 2, 2008 7:26:44 GMT -5
Even more than the InVasion, I'm thinking their biggest boner was giving Hogan the title at WM9 -- and it's not just blind Hogan hate driving me to say that. They had just gone through a transition period where they were getting away from Hogan and the bodybuilder types of the '80s and focusing on smaller, more athletic guys. At a time when they needed to do everything possible to legitimize this "new generation," especially against a monster heel like Yokozuna, they instead panicked at the slumping business (which had been slumping long before Bret Hart became champ) and went back to their old meal ticket, Hogan, who then did ... nothing. For two months. He didn't help attendance figures or merchandise or anything because he wasn't on TV, or at house shows, or anywhere. Hogan leaves, and the WWF immediately is in the position of having to find a new Hogan, since Hogan the Giant Killer was the only one who had been able to handle Yokozuna. This leads to the awful Luger push, and eventually, when that failed, they put Bret Hart on top. Which is where they had been anyway in early 1993. That one pointless Hogan episode cost them more than a year of product development at a time when they were already hurting. It also catapulted Hogan right into WCW, where he ended up being part of the re-invention that nearly put the WWF out of business. you can't see it, but i'm clapping right now
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jan 2, 2008 8:02:35 GMT -5
Vince as the Higher Power without question. Biggest anti-climax ever.
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 2, 2008 8:26:28 GMT -5
Even more than the InVasion, I'm thinking their biggest boner was giving Hogan the title at WM9 -- and it's not just blind Hogan hate driving me to say that. They had just gone through a transition period where they were getting away from Hogan and the bodybuilder types of the '80s and focusing on smaller, more athletic guys. At a time when they needed to do everything possible to legitimize this "new generation," especially against a monster heel like Yokozuna, they instead panicked at the slumping business (which had been slumping long before Bret Hart became champ) and went back to their old meal ticket, Hogan, who then did ... nothing. For two months. He didn't help attendance figures or merchandise or anything because he wasn't on TV, or at house shows, or anywhere. Hogan leaves, and the WWF immediately is in the position of having to find a new Hogan, since Hogan the Giant Killer was the only one who had been able to handle Yokozuna. This leads to the awful Luger push, and eventually, when that failed, they put Bret Hart on top. Which is where they had been anyway in early 1993. That one pointless Hogan episode cost them more than a year of product development at a time when they were already hurting. It also catapulted Hogan right into WCW, where he ended up being part of the re-invention that nearly put the WWF out of business. I disagree, I didn't think the Luger push was that bad, he was plenty over and should've gotten the title at Summerslam. Also, I thought the Hogan title win was great at Mania as the fans needed something to wake them up as they were dead throughout the show. Though I agree with the aftermath. As for me I agree with the booking of the InVasion angle which made the WCW/ECW guys look like chumps. Here's an example: www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Steve+Austin+whips+Tazz/video/x1tdxq_steve-austin-whips-tazz_sport
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 2, 2008 8:28:46 GMT -5
I did it for the Rock.
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Post by ghostgrabber on Jan 2, 2008 9:43:17 GMT -5
Boring Lance Storm. When I think of boring. I don't think of Lance Storm. I think of Batista. amen brother..Lance was an amazing wrestler and for some damn reason never got the respect he deserved.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 2, 2008 10:33:18 GMT -5
Boring Lance Storm. When I think of boring. I don't think of Lance Storm. I think of Batista. amen brother..Lance was an amazing wrestler and for some damn reason never got the respect he deserved. He was a great technical wrestler, but the WWE crowds for the most part don't care for technical wrestlers and to be fair he was kinda boring.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jan 2, 2008 10:46:55 GMT -5
The Million Dollar Man never being the world champion. You are sooo correct. Ted DiBiase as World Champion with Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan as challengers would've been GOLD. I saw Hogan and Ted brawl several times at Madison Square Garden and they always reversed the decision. Even the "Hulkamaniacs" knew that Ted was the better wrestler. We were robbed of a piece of wrestling history, no doubt.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 2, 2008 10:55:09 GMT -5
The Million Dollar Man never being the world champion. You are sooo correct. Ted DiBiase as World Champion with Hulk Hogan chasing the belt and coming up short every time would've been GOLD. I saw Hogan and Ted brawl several times at Madison Square Garden and they always reversed the decision. Even the "Hulkamaniacs" knew that Ted was the better wrestler. We were robbed of a piece of wrestling history. What were they thinking?! Well you can thank Honky Tonk Man for that one. And Hogan and DiBiase never fought one on one in MSG though you're probably thinking of Ric Flair. It would've been nice for him to be champion, but I guess it wasn't in the cards.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jan 2, 2008 11:03:47 GMT -5
WWF had some great tag teams for a hot minute and did absolutely nothing with them. The Fabulous Freebirds left quickly and Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon were great.
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Post by Zutroy on Jan 2, 2008 11:05:39 GMT -5
For me its quite simple.
Eric Bischoff & nWo in WWE
They should have brought in Bischoff first an then had him bring the nWo with him, that could have worked so much better on every level.
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