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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jul 22, 2008 10:29:37 GMT -5
Yes he is a doctor in this series, actually. In Batman Begins, he told young Bruce that he worked at the hospital and left the running of Wayne Enterprises to others. Also, Thomas gave Bruce a stethoscope when he was a kid (there are a few fleeting flashbacks to it).
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Jul 22, 2008 10:34:40 GMT -5
Yes he is a doctor in this series, actually. In Batman Begins, he told young Bruce that he worked at the hospital and left the running of Wayne Enterprises to others. Also, Thomas gave Bruce a stethoscope when he was a kid (there are a few fleeting flashbacks to it). Damn. Nevermind then. My memory is balls. I was all about Revenge of the Sith that summer anyhow, haha. Seriously though, this makes the Hush storyline an even better candidtate, IMO.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jul 22, 2008 10:41:37 GMT -5
Yes he is a doctor in this series, actually. In Batman Begins, he told young Bruce that he worked at the hospital and left the running of Wayne Enterprises to others. Also, Thomas gave Bruce a stethoscope when he was a kid (there are a few fleeting flashbacks to it). Damn. Nevermind then. My memory is balls. I was all about Revenge of the Sith that summer anyhow, haha. Seriously though, this makes the Hush storyline an even better candidtate, IMO. Well, it was only a couple of quick scenes, anyway. They could be kinda easy to miss.
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 22, 2008 10:54:27 GMT -5
Keeping it simple. I liked it. This. And dammit, I'm not supposed to be turned on by the damn Joker but I am. He looked so sexy here though: And I know it's the same movie, but I feel it gets better upon the second viewing. (Kinda like the effect listening to your favorite album again has )
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Post by Grendel on Jul 22, 2008 10:57:08 GMT -5
I think i'll see it again I don't think I can wait for DVD I will probably see it again as well. I watched it yesterday after sitting through Hellboy II, and The Dark Knight was the better of the two movies. I thought it smurfing rocked, and I have to see it on the big screen again. I thought there wasn't a bad performance in the bunch. Aaron Eckhart was great as Two Face and Heath Ledger was The Joker. One friend of mine was torn about seeing this movie because in her eyes The Joker was best portrayed by Jack in the old Michael Keaton Batman movie. But I think Heath changed her mind in this one. Definitely the best comic book movie I've seen this summer. And I admit, I had a mini nerdgasm when I saw the trailer for The Watchmen. My friends that were with me hadn't heard of the movie or graphic novel, so they were wondering why I did the fist pump and yelled out "Yes!" when the trailer started.
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Post by Batman on Jul 22, 2008 10:57:46 GMT -5
And I know it's the same movie, but I feel it gets better upon the second viewing. (Kinda like the effect listening to your favorite album again has ) It gets better every time.
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 22, 2008 11:00:42 GMT -5
Has anyone read the movie novelization yet? It's pretty good, gives the Scarecrow a little more to do in the beginning at least. It details the events in his life from the "Fear itself" scene in Batman Begins to where we find him in The Dark Knight. And I was just gonna ask why Scarecrow was even there, thanks for the tip And I know it's the same movie, but I feel it gets better upon the second viewing. (Kinda like the effect listening to your favorite album again has ) It gets better every time. I'm betting, but I think the next time I see it it'll be on DVD, cuz 11+ dollars is a lot of money IMO! Edit: And, am I crazy, or did this scene not even happen -
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 22, 2008 12:24:50 GMT -5
Mr. Freeze isn't EASY to do, but there's a simple way to retcon it, and it would fit in with the universe pretty well I think. Go steam punk instead of future tech =p Picture a loose 50s style diving suit with a clear Mr. Freeze beaker style top with his jaw obscured just a bald head and those goggles (those wonderful goggles). his gun shoots liquid nitrogen from a tank off his back, but you NEED the voice box. That cold emotionless mechanical courtesy phonesque voice that speaks so rationally about what he's doing. Its not TOO fantastic and all you have to do is explain the suit keeps him alive by maintaining a near freezing body temperature. I sketched something up immediately after reading this.
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Post by Silent Brad on Jul 22, 2008 13:31:43 GMT -5
Edit: And, am I crazy, or did this scene not even happen - Nope. Its just a promo shot.
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Post by Millie D on Jul 22, 2008 13:54:12 GMT -5
I thought the movie was F-ING AWESOME! I was pumped for it and thought i had to sit through at least 8 trailers I was even more pumped when it began..for two and a half glorious hours i sat and got lost in the movie! I loved everything about it and i am going to see it again this weekend! I do not recall the last time I went to a movie when after it was over there was a standing Ovation and clapping and many stayed for the credits and clapped louder when it said the movie was for Heath..His Joker was maniacal and funny and psychopathic and I had even forgot that it was Heath playing him for a while because you really can't tell its him!
There was a moment in the movie that did creep me out and for those who saw it it involved the Joker faking being dead being brought in by body bag and i thought OMG that's freaky because my mind shot back to when they carted his body into the ambulance...
I also thought Bale did a great job and so did Aaron Echart but i was confused because he was burned by oil on his face catching fire and i thought he had acid thrown in his face in the comic book..i may be wrong...
It was nice of Batman to sacrifice his beloved character so that people thought of harvey as a good man and i also thought Dent lived a while...so he can't be dead and I know IF they decide to make another movie and the Joker is the villain NO ONE will come close to even touching the psyche of the character as heath did..those are BIG shoes to fill man and I feel sorry for whatever actor does if they decide to go that route...
I loved it...
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jul 22, 2008 14:01:28 GMT -5
Yeah, in the comics, it was acid. They changed it for the movie, and I have no problem with it whatsoever.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 22, 2008 14:11:57 GMT -5
Yeah, in the comics, it was acid. They changed it for the movie, and I have no problem with it whatsoever. For a few seconds, when he fell over in the oil, I thought that that's what they were gonna say, that at least one of those drums had acid.. as it stands though, like you said, I got no issue with the fire. I was pleasantly surprised his 'other half' looked as well as it did, as I was iffy by the stills I'd seen
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Post by pyriis on Jul 22, 2008 15:28:08 GMT -5
No Spoilers for those of you who have not seen it.
First and for most, this is coming from someone who does not like Batman, I never found him to be even remotely entertaining. I always found Batman as a superhero to be kind of strange, as a crime fighter I can understand, but against a super powered foe, he just never worked for me. But on the other end of that is the Joker, one of the most dark and sadistic bad guy I have ever seen, and I think my favorite out of everyone. So going into the Dark Knight was a mixed bag for me. On one hand, Batman is portrayed as a crime fighter, not a Super Hero, so this works for me, but its still a character that I do not find appealing. But on the other hand, we have the Joker, and in this movie he is portrayed as one of the most sick, twisted, most sadistic, most dark, and demented person out there, in short, he is evil.
Now going into this movie, it was hard not be buy into the hype surrounding it. All the media attention, all the buzz around this movie, you just had to get caught up in it. Then we had chosen to wait a few days to see the movie because lets face it, I was not wanting to fight the crowds, to squeeze into a theater with a fat person on one side of me. So needless to say, I was not was trying not to buy into the hype of the movie, but I along with everyone else I know were caught up in hype of this movie.
So on top of all of that, this movie blew me away, from Batman, to Joker to Harvey Dent, I was amazed, this movie made Batman someone I could get behind while just adding all that much more to the joker, all that much more to the what I liked about him. Then they turned around and made Two Face, a man whom though seemed real in the Bat verse, I never got. This movie.. I got him. As a character, someone who is torn, who is broken, Harvey Dent is someone I get. I can say that with this movie, I believe in Harvey Dent.
The movie went forward with the Joker, nothing in the movie happened with out Jokers hand pushing it along. Every even from the opening to the final scene in the movie was all about the Joker, all of it was planned, and orchestrated by him. In all honesty I did not find this to be a Batman movie as much as a Joker movie. Where as Batman begins revolved all around Batman with a back story of Scarecrow and Ras Al Gul, This movie had Batman taking the back seat so to speak to Joker. It shows you so much of him as a character, so much of as a person, his beliefs and feelings yet in turn it reveals nothing.
I really have tried to refrain from using Heath Ledgers name in this review because bring him into it as the person who played the Joker to me takes away from the performance as a whole. But I do believe that no one could have done him better, and I do not think I would like to see anyone else take up the moniker of Joker. I feel to recast him would be to take away from all he did for the movie and for the character.
In closing, this was the movie of the year for me, best Super Hero comic book movie hands down. I feel that this should get movie of the year, along with Ledger getting an Oscar for his role. If you have not seen this movie yet, then please go, treat yourself to the gem of a movie, and in so doing, please do not deprive yourself by missing this movie on the big screen.
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Post by CrazySting on Jul 22, 2008 15:34:41 GMT -5
Didn't Batman technically break his one rule when he took Dent off the building with him?
He basically killed the guy.
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Post by Millie D on Jul 22, 2008 15:52:35 GMT -5
No Spoilers for those of you who have not seen it. First and for most, this is coming from someone who does not like Batman, I never found him to be even remotely entertaining. I always found Batman as a superhero to be kind of strange, as a crime fighter I can understand, but against a super powered foe, he just never worked for me. But on the other end of that is the Joker, one of the most dark and sadistic bad guy I have ever seen, and I think my favorite out of everyone. So going into the Dark Knight was a mixed bag for me. On one hand, Batman is portrayed as a crime fighter, not a Super Hero, so this works for me, but its still a character that I do not find appealing. But on the other hand, we have the Joker, and in this movie he is portrayed as one of the most sick, twisted, most sadistic, most dark, and demented person out there, in short, he is evil. Now going into this movie, it was hard not be buy into the hype surrounding it. All the media attention, all the buzz around this movie, you just had to get caught up in it. Then we had chosen to wait a few days to see the movie because lets face it, I was not wanting to fight the crowds, to squeeze into a theater with a fat person on one side of me. So needless to say, I was not was trying not to buy into the hype of the movie, but I along with everyone else I know were caught up in hype of this movie. So on top of all of that, this movie blew me away, from Batman, to Joker to Harvey Dent, I was amazed, this movie made Batman someone I could get behind while just adding all that much more to the joker, all that much more to the what I liked about him. Then they turned around and made Two Face, a man whom though seemed real in the Bat verse, I never got. This movie.. I got him. As a character, someone who is torn, who is broken, Harvey Dent is someone I get. I can say that with this movie, I believe in Harvey Dent. The movie went forward with the Joker, nothing in the movie happened with out Jokers hand pushing it along. Every even from the opening to the final scene in the movie was all about the Joker, all of it was planned, and orchestrated by him. In all honesty I did not find this to be a Batman movie as much as a Joker movie. Where as Batman begins revolved all around Batman with a back story of Scarecrow and Ras Al Gul, This movie had Batman taking the back seat so to speak to Joker. It shows you so much of him as a character, so much of as a person, his beliefs and feelings yet in turn it reveals nothing. I really have tried to refrain from using Heath Ledgers name in this review because bring him into it as the person who played the Joker to me takes away from the performance as a whole. But I do believe that no one could have done him better, and I do not think I would like to see anyone else take up the moniker of Joker. I feel to recast him would be to take away from all he did for the movie and for the character. In closing, this was the movie of the year for me, best Super Hero comic book movie hands down. I feel that this should get movie of the year, along with Ledger getting an Oscar for his role. If you have not seen this movie yet, then please go, treat yourself to the gem of a movie, and in so doing, please do not deprive yourself by missing this movie on the big screen. that is just awesome that a movie can totally change your view and to go in without following the hype is way cool man..good for you!
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Post by Brother Coyote on Jul 22, 2008 15:53:30 GMT -5
Didn't Batman technically break his one rule when he took Dent off the building with him? He basically killed the guy. OR DID HE? IS HE A LIVE OR IS HE DEAD? /kane Mr. Freeze isn't EASY to do, but there's a simple way to retcon it, and it would fit in with the universe pretty well I think. Go steam punk instead of future tech =p Picture a loose 50s style diving suit with a clear Mr. Freeze beaker style top with his jaw obscured just a bald head and those goggles (those wonderful goggles). his gun shoots liquid nitrogen from a tank off his back, but you NEED the voice box. That cold emotionless mechanical courtesy phonesque voice that speaks so rationally about what he's doing. Its not TOO fantastic and all you have to do is explain the suit keeps him alive by maintaining a near freezing body temperature. I sketched something up immediately after reading this. Exactly, people tend to forget you only have to explain enough to make it sound logical. Plausible or even believable isn't the issue if something has its own logic to it people generally give it a pass in because they understand the logic and that makes them feel smart.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jul 22, 2008 15:58:53 GMT -5
Didn't Batman technically break his one rule when he took Dent off the building with him? He basically killed the guy. OR DID HE? IS HE A LIVE OR IS HE DEAD? /kane Me and my friends were seriously screaming that while discussing the movie after it was over.
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Post by CrazySting on Jul 22, 2008 16:01:37 GMT -5
OR DID HE? IS HE A LIVE OR IS HE DEAD? /kane Me and my friends were seriously screaming that while discussing the movie after it was over. You saw his body. And the funeral. Besides, I think Nolan likes Dent as a tweener. To draw the parralls with batman, you can't have that if he's a straight up villain in the next one.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jul 22, 2008 16:11:21 GMT -5
I never saw a coffin in that Funeral scene.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Jul 22, 2008 16:22:32 GMT -5
I think Harvey Dent is dead, but Two-Face is locked up in Arkham Asylum.
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