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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jul 30, 2008 7:33:14 GMT -5
Harley should never be in a serious Batman movie. Theres so many villians that deserve the call-up before her. I think it would depend on how they portray her. A serious route would do wonders for the character. Imagine the shock if Rachel didn't die, but was taken by the Joker's men, and then have her tortured, somewhat mutilated (she might have some facial scarring), and driven insane by the process. This would be more poignant if it was the Joker doing this directly to her. Throw in a strong dose of Stockholm syndrome, and now you have a female counterpart, who believes in the Joker's cause and becomes infatuated with him. You also have another dignified agent of justice fall from grace, thereby adding another notch to the Joker's belt.
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Post by kretchpoof on Jul 30, 2008 8:03:21 GMT -5
If they go with the Riddler, I'll throw out a name that should be considered: James Roday. I think he could handle it.
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 30, 2008 8:19:09 GMT -5
Already up to number 18 on all time gross (before inflation)
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Post by MysteryPartner on Jul 30, 2008 8:51:22 GMT -5
overrated.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 30, 2008 10:43:40 GMT -5
Come on man, Xavier would go into more detail than that!
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 30, 2008 10:55:01 GMT -5
I'd be awesome if in the next movie, Gordon simply never takes his eyes off of Batman, so that he can't do his cool disappearing act.
And Batman would just be standing there waiting for his opportunity to disappear.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 30, 2008 10:58:52 GMT -5
I'd be awesome if in the next movie, Gordon simply never takes his eyes off of Batman, so that he can't do his cool disappearing act. And Batman would just be standing there waiting for his opportunity to disappear. Batman could just throw some smoke pellets down then.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 30, 2008 11:06:49 GMT -5
I'd be awesome if in the next movie, Gordon simply never takes his eyes off of Batman, so that he can't do his cool disappearing act. And Batman would just be standing there waiting for his opportunity to disappear. Batman could just throw some smoke pellets down then. He could also say, 'Hey! Look at the size of those boobs!" and run away.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 30, 2008 11:12:33 GMT -5
Huh? *looks away*
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Post by 4real on Jul 30, 2008 11:28:26 GMT -5
Finally got to see it last night and thank god it lived up to the hype. I was worried at the start it started really slowly but once it got going, it was amazing. Was Heath Ledger deserving of the hype? Yes and no. At the start it seemed the only good things about the movie were the bits with The Joker in it, and yes he was as scary as i thought he would be. But by the end Aaron Eckhardt completely stole the show, and I was ready for a whole new movie with Two Face as the star. I hope that does happen. As for The Joker I don't think they should bring him back, draw the line under it. You won't better that performance. For the next film, Two Face and Scarecrow (yes again) would be my ideal villians. Its hard to see The Riddler or The Penguin fitting in. Glad you loved it, but I really disagree with the starting slowly part. This was one of the quickest starting movies I've ever seen in my life. WB logo, Legenday Pictures logo, DC comics logo, Batman Logo (all of which took maybe 30 seconds to a minute)... Bank Robbery action scene followed by Batman kicking ass scene. No opening credits, just right to it. Yeah I definitely agree with the beginning of the film being excellent, but the 20-30 minutes thereafter seemed to drag for me. The only good bits were with The Joker in them, and once he started appearing more, the film picked up. But thats fine that it started slowly, need to establish the story first I guess.
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 30, 2008 13:24:26 GMT -5
For me, the movie really didn't get going till about the part where Joker makes that tape. Then again, I saw it three times so far, so it's not like I hated it, just saying. Edit: Harley should never be in a serious Batman movie. Theres so many villians that deserve the call-up before her. I agree, but if she is in it, it should be this woman in the part: "Why so serious" indeed!!!! (Not even I'm fully sure why I posted this)
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Post by Indigocrates on Jul 30, 2008 13:25:13 GMT -5
I was browsing pages at random, and recently came upon movie spoilers, and I have yet to see the movie (Motherf***ing Encyclopedia Dramatica)! Much appreciation if someone can tell me via PM how vital these plot points are to the overall enjoyment of the movie: -Rachel dies -Joker doesn't die -Harvey Dent becomes Two-Face (THIS one shocked me the motherf***ing most )
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 30, 2008 13:29:02 GMT -5
They're all big plot points, but I think you'll still like the movie
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Post by Indigocrates on Jul 30, 2008 13:30:33 GMT -5
They're all big plot points, but I think you'll still like the movie I mean, if you knew going into the movie those things would happen, how much would it detract from your enjoyment?
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Post by Batman on Jul 30, 2008 13:39:31 GMT -5
They're all big plot points, but I think you'll still like the movie I mean, if you knew going into the movie those things would happen, how much would it detract from your enjoyment? I knew most of the big plot points before I saw it the first time, and now I've seen it several times... But maybe you shouldn't take my word for it, since I am Batman.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Jul 30, 2008 13:41:05 GMT -5
They're all big plot points, but I think you'll still like the movie I mean, if you knew going into the movie those things would happen, how much would it detract from your enjoyment? Rachel is probably the biggest one. Joker not dying isn't really a "spoiler" inasmuch as solidifying Batman's character (he won't kill) As for Two-Face, I'm not sure if you follow the comics or not, but if you do, then it shouldn't have been a surprise since Harvey Dent is Two-Face in the comics and you would have known that he would become him. If you didn't follow the comics, then it might be a huge surprise. Really, the Rachel thing kinda sucks knowing that because that's such a tense moment and it's a big turning point in the movie.
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 30, 2008 13:41:53 GMT -5
I mean, if you knew going into the movie those things would happen, how much would it detract from your enjoyment? I knew most of the big plot points before I saw it the first time, and now I've seen it several times... But maybe you shouldn't take my word for it, since I am Batman. Hahaha, well for me, going into it, I knew a few things, but I think seeing them in full motion rather than reading about them was quite a thrill in and of itself, so I think you'll still like it
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Post by Indigocrates on Jul 30, 2008 13:48:54 GMT -5
I knew most of the big plot points before I saw it the first time, and now I've seen it several times... But maybe you shouldn't take my word for it, since I am Batman. Hahaha, well for me, going into it, I knew a few things, but I think seeing them in full motion rather than reading about them was quite a thrill in and of itself, so I think you'll still like it Ah, so knowledge of those plot points won't kill my enjoyment? Many thanks, both to you and Batman for restoring most of my hype. Define "like", though. Do you mean "like" as in, mildly entertaining, or "like" as in, "OMGWTFBESTMOVIEEVARKTHXBYE!!1!!!!1!11!!1!" that the rest of the world is making it out to be (Keep in mind, I'm a die-hard Batman mark, in addition to rabidly awaiting to see this movie for the past year)?
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 30, 2008 14:05:07 GMT -5
Harley Quinn SHOULD be in a Batman movie, just so I can see Harley Quinn....
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Post by Virt McGirt on Jul 30, 2008 14:16:46 GMT -5
Hahaha, well for me, going into it, I knew a few things, but I think seeing them in full motion rather than reading about them was quite a thrill in and of itself, so I think you'll still like it Ah, so knowledge of those plot points won't kill my enjoyment? Many thanks, both to you and Batman for restoring most of my hype. Define "like", though. Do you mean "like" as in, mildly entertaining, or "like" as in, "OMGWTFBESTMOVIEEVARKTHXBYE!!1!!!!1!11!!1!" that the rest of the world is making it out to be (Keep in mind, I'm a die-hard Batman mark, in addition to rabidly awaiting to see this movie for the past year)? It's just like on wrestling shows and whatnot, reading the spoilers kinda kills the suprise, but depending on what it is, it makes it still worth watching, cuz you know what to expect, but you don't know when it's gonna happen. Now if you'll excuse me, I'mma go eat the rest of my lunch.
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