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Post by randomranter on Jan 2, 2009 12:48:07 GMT -5
With all of these The Brian Kendrick comments, I'm just wondering. Were we suppose to like him in his Spanky days to truly appreciate him? I mean, I liked him during his run as Tag Champs and on RAW. Does that count as not jumping the bandwaggon? Or should I hate him because I haven't liked him long enough? Actually, I thought he was great as part of Londrick. But it's the new persona, attitude, and the man-love that he gets on these boards that has really turned me off to him. Yes, he's a talented wrestler. But he's no Michaels. Not even in the same ballpark.
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Post by Brother Ike: Thread Killer on Jan 2, 2009 13:11:27 GMT -5
John Morrison- He has the look and talent to become a big star one day, but I seriously cant not stand his promo work. His character just seems so phony and his "comedy" sounds dreadfully forced. I cant tell if the creative team is just writing awful material or if hes just that bad of an actor. It also feels like him and the miz are trying to be the "cool heels" that Lance Storm wrote about a few months ago.
Miz, Cryme Time, Kennedy-same thing as Morrison minus the "talent to become a big star one day" part
JBL ever since his return- I really enjoyed his commentary work as the Rich the loud mouth Texan, but ever since his return to the ring it seems like all the charisma was sucked out of him because all he does now are nothing but "serious" promos while looking like a pouting child.
The Legacy- am I the only one that misses the days where a stable was an elite group of wrestlers that dominated the entire title scene, and not just a couple of jobbing cronies for one main eventer?
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Post by Mantaurded on Jan 2, 2009 13:29:27 GMT -5
@ Ike - I can see where you don't like Morrison's promos. He sounds like an idiot with those lame catchphrases.
Palace of Wisdom...give me a break!
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Jan 2, 2009 13:42:00 GMT -5
Kendrick. I cannot for the love of God understand why people keep saying he's the next Shawn Michaels. He is not the next Michaels. He's not even worthy of lacing up his boots. His act is barely a really poor remake of something vaguely resembling Michaels' original HBK act. He looks like an overgrown 12 year old wearing his big brother's jacket to school in hopes to look just tough enough so he won't get beat up for his lunch money again. I'm not sure what annoys me more -- his act, or the faux-man-love that some people on these boards give him. [/size] [/quote] I think the day that we see a "If Brian Kendrick was a Pizza, what would you put on him?" thread then I will admit that the "faux-man-love" has gone too far. But I believe that distinction goes to John Morrison. I like them both, but Kendrick is my guy. He was great his first Smackdown, running "naked" through the arena, through getting obliterated by Brock, the Cena-rap off, londrick, and finally the current "The" period. I know some people are convinced his love comes from some sort of Indie wet dream syndrome, but I have always liked him in the WWE. And as far as comparisons to Shawn Michaels and Brian Pillman, blame JR and the writing staff, who are the ones pushing those ideas down our throats, not Kendrick.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 2, 2009 13:44:45 GMT -5
About 99.9% of the WWE roster, sadly. - bretclark This. Most of the wrestlers I enjoy watching have been around for quite some time (Chris Jericho, Edge, Shawn Michaels, William Regal, Tommy Dreamer). There are a few wrestlers newer to WWE like John Morrison and CM Punk that I enjoy watching too, but other than that it's just a big parade of blandness. Not to nitpick, but the WWE roster has about 65 active guys and you just named 7. 91 percent really isn't really all that close to 99.9.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Jan 2, 2009 13:45:27 GMT -5
Any of the Divas sadly It took 8 posts for this. This was the first thing that name to my head. I didn't even consider them as eligable for my list... That's bad right?
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Post by Desi on Jan 2, 2009 14:07:39 GMT -5
Chris Jericho & Edge.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 2, 2009 14:41:10 GMT -5
Randy Orton. I just don't get it. The dude's "charisma" consists of never changing his tone, volume, inflection, or facial expressions, and his wrestling is....sub-par at best. When your most devastating move is a weak looking shin strike that everyone has to sell like death to get over, something is wrong. Couldn't have said it better myself, although I do like the punt (just don't understand why A) He doesn't do it more often if it's that devastating and B) more wrestlers don't do it, unless Randy has magic feet or something). Also, Kelly Kelly. I respect that she's trying, but I don't think I can ever take her seriously.
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Post by randomranter on Jan 2, 2009 15:19:09 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better myself, although I do like the punt (just don't understand why A) He doesn't do it more often if it's that devastating and B) more wrestlers don't do it, unless Randy has magic feet or something). If there's a wrestling move I just can't bring myself to believe it's that graze to the side of the head punt. Wrestlers get hit in the head with a title belt that weighs, what, 40 lbs? Steel chairs. Ringposts. Often, repeatedly. The list goes on and on and on. But a single shot from the side of Randy's foot and they're out for months? Come on. I'm all for the whole "suspension of disbelief" thing, but that's just too much to handle. What makes it worse is that the kick itself looks weak to begin with. I've kicked harder playing kick-ball in gym class as a kid. The fact that they're booking it like "Punt >>> Every other finishing move on earth, ever." makes me cringe every time I see it. Repeated chair shots to the skull at a PPV? No problem. Just wear this big band-aid the next day on Raw and you'll be just fine. Make contact with the side of Randy's foot? See you in six months. Horrible. Just horrible.
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Post by Convoy on Jan 2, 2009 15:42:12 GMT -5
CM Punk, Miz & Morrison, Kofi, Orton and Jericho are the only people I enjoy watching (aside from Bryan Danielson).
So to answer your question, about 91% of the WWE Roster.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 2, 2009 15:52:43 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better myself, although I do like the punt (just don't understand why A) He doesn't do it more often if it's that devastating and B) more wrestlers don't do it, unless Randy has magic feet or something). If there's a wrestling move I just can't bring myself to believe it's that graze to the side of the head punt. Wrestlers get hit in the head with a title belt that weighs, what, 40 lbs? Steel chairs. Ringposts. Often, repeatedly. The list goes on and on and on. But a single shot from the side of Randy's foot and they're out for months? Come on. I'm all for the whole "suspension of disbelief" thing, but that's just too much to handle. What makes it worse is that the kick itself looks weak to begin with. I've kicked harder playing kick-ball in gym class as a kid. The fact that they're booking it like "Punt >>> Every other finishing move on earth, ever." makes me cringe every time I see it. Repeated chair shots to the skull at a PPV? No problem. Just wear this big band-aid the next day on Raw and you'll be just fine. Make contact with the side of Randy's foot? See you in six months. Horrible. Just horrible. In fairness, I'm guessing if I bashed you over the skull with a chair or kicked you with a running start in the side of the head, the kick would be far more devestating.
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Post by randomranter on Jan 2, 2009 15:57:43 GMT -5
In fairness, I'm guessing if I bashed you over the skull with a chair or kicked you with a running start in the side of the head, the kick would be far more devestating. Sadly, I've been kicked in the head several times legitimately, so I know what that feels like. Hurt like hell, don't get me wrong. Hurt for days. Big ol' lump left behind as well. But it didn't stop me from going about my day to day activities. In fact, I got up and walked home unaided. I've never been bashed in the head repeatedly with a steel chair. However, there was a local news story some time back about a guy who took a legit chair shot to the side of the head. His skull was nearly caved in, and half of his face was almost completely crushed. After comparing my own personal experiences with getting kicked in the head, and seeing what a legitimate chair shot can do to you, my personal opinion is "Chair >>>>>>>>> Foot." YMMV.
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Post by soulchild27 on Jan 2, 2009 16:01:43 GMT -5
Matt Hardy for sure. Can't stand him.
Used to be Benoit.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 2, 2009 16:07:37 GMT -5
In fairness, I'm guessing if I bashed you over the skull with a chair or kicked you with a running start in the side of the head, the kick would be far more devestating. Sadly, I've been kicked in the head several times legitimately, so I know what that feels like. Hurt like hell, don't get me wrong. Hurt for days. Big ol' lump left behind as well. But it didn't stop me from going about my day to day activities. In fact, I got up and walked home unaided. I've never been bashed in the head repeatedly with a steel chair. However, there was a local news story some time back about a guy who took a legit chair shot to the side of the head. His skull was nearly caved in, and half of his face was almost completely crushed. After comparing my own personal experiences with getting kicked in the head, and seeing what a legitimate chair shot can do to you, my personal opinion is "Chair >>>>>>>>> Foot." YMMV. Side of the head, not the top. All the chair shots you see are to the top of the skull with the flat end of the chair. Theres a lot of things wrong with the "punt of doom" but I don't find a kick to the side of the head with a running start to be any less effective than hitting a guy in the top of the head with a chair.
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Post by blef on Jan 2, 2009 16:16:53 GMT -5
The Legacy- am I the only one that misses the days where a stable was an elite group of wrestlers that dominated the entire title scene, and not just a couple of jobbing cronies for one main eventer? Sadly, stables for the last few years (well, except Evolution) have been nothing more than packs of midcarder cronies attached to a main eventer's hip. See: JBL's Cabinet and Angle's entourage of Reigns & Jindrak. They mean well, but it never works out. We only care about them as long as their in the shadow or presence of someone we actually care about for real. After that.....they drift right toward future endeavors.
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Post by randomranter on Jan 2, 2009 16:19:54 GMT -5
Side of the head, not the top. All the chair shots you see are to the top of the skull with the flat end of the chair. Theres a lot of things wrong with the "punt of doom" but I don't find a kick to the side of the head with a running start to be any less effective than hitting a guy in the top of the head with a chair. But here's the thing. They're not booking the "punt of doom" to be as effective as a chair shot. If they were, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it. They're booking the punt of doom to be infinitely more effective. That's where I have the problem. If they booked it to be on the same level as a chair shot, or getting hit with the belt, or <insert finishing move here>, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And like I said, it doesn't even look painful. A kick to the side of the head should not be taking main-event level wrestlers out for months at a time. Take a look at Batista. The guy goes through a HIAC match with 'Taker and walks away (compartively) unscathed, but a single kick to the side of the head was going to put him out for months even without the hamstring injury </kayfabe>? Come on. That's where my problem lies. "Punt = chair shot" is fine. "Punt >>>>>> Every move ever done, ever" isn't. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 2, 2009 16:21:33 GMT -5
Side of the head, not the top. All the chair shots you see are to the top of the skull with the flat end of the chair. Theres a lot of things wrong with the "punt of doom" but I don't find a kick to the side of the head with a running start to be any less effective than hitting a guy in the top of the head with a chair. But here's the thing. They're not booking the "punt of doom" to be as effective as a chair shot. If they were, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it. They're booking the punt of doom to be infinitely more effective. That's where I have the problem. If they booked it to be on the same level as a chair shot, or getting hit with the belt, or <insert finishing move here>, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And like I said, it doesn't even look painful. A kick to the side of the head should not be taking main-event level wrestlers out for months at a time. Take a look at Batista. The guy goes through a HIAC match with 'Taker and walks away (compartively) unscathed, but a single kick to the side of the head was going to put him out for months even without the hamstring injury </kayfabe>? Come on. That's where my problem lies. "Punt = chair shot" is fine. "Punt >>>>>> Every move ever done, ever" isn't. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far. I agree with you on all of these points.
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Post by The Immoral One on Jan 2, 2009 16:23:02 GMT -5
Matt Hardy. For some reason I just can't get into anything he does. Although I had no problem with V.1 Hardy. Exactly how I feel. Matt just seems like he never left the 90's to me.
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Jan 2, 2009 16:45:14 GMT -5
I find it interesting that nobody's mentioned Vicki Guerrero in 5 pages of comments. I won't, I totally mark for her 'EXCUUUUUSE ME!!!' line every time-- but I woulda swore I was in the minority on that.
Oh, and nobody hates HBK either? What, no Canadian Crappers are actively posting comments? The Montreal Screwjob is like the "Never Forget" mantra up North that Yankees reserve for 9/11. But again, HBK can do no wrong in my eyes, he's had flawless booking ever since the death of the new nWo.
There's actually only two people on my shitlist-- TODD GRISHAM, whom I absolutely hate on the mic as the PBP announcer. Especially once he stopped using that "Maaaaaaaain Event" line of his, but they really need to pair J.R. with Striker for the Jedi/Padawan Announce team made of pure win.
And I despise MICHELLE MCCOOL, her silly last name, horrible accent, bony frame, and the fact that she graduated from Florida State U. f*** the Seminoles! (/Gatorfan)
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Jan 2, 2009 16:51:35 GMT -5
Side of the head, not the top. All the chair shots you see are to the top of the skull with the flat end of the chair. Theres a lot of things wrong with the "punt of doom" but I don't find a kick to the side of the head with a running start to be any less effective than hitting a guy in the top of the head with a chair. But here's the thing. They're not booking the "punt of doom" to be as effective as a chair shot. If they were, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it. They're booking the punt of doom to be infinitely more effective. That's where I have the problem. If they booked it to be on the same level as a chair shot, or getting hit with the belt, or <insert finishing move here>, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And like I said, it doesn't even look painful. A kick to the side of the head should not be taking main-event level wrestlers out for months at a time. Take a look at Batista. The guy goes through a HIAC match with 'Taker and walks away (compartively) unscathed, but a single kick to the side of the head was going to put him out for months even without the hamstring injury </kayfabe>? Come on. That's where my problem lies. "Punt = chair shot" is fine. "Punt >>>>>> Every move ever done, ever" isn't. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far. Quick question, what's worse: Head Punt or Death Valley Vice (Taker's gogoplata)? Both moves are 100% legal, and certainly OP'd, kinda like the Masterlock. But I wonder if it makes a difference for a face to wield an OP move (for great justice !!) rather than a viper-like, sick, sadistic, sadist viperman.
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