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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 7, 2009 15:41:45 GMT -5
This is from Box Office Guru:
"The flawed superheroes of Watchmen seized control of the North American box office on Friday grossing an estimated $24.3M on opening day from 3,611 theaters including 124 Imax venues. The towering figure marked the best first-day haul of any film since last November's Twilight which bowed to a stronger $36M Friday on its way to a stunning $69.6M weekend. Watchmen's opening day tally included an estimated $4.6M from Thursday night shows beginning at midnight. The Friday take was 14% below the $28.1M of director Zack Snyder's last film 300 which bowed this same weekend and eventually reached $70.9M over three days setting a new record March debut.
The one-day tally was impressive considering the film's R rating, nearly-three-hour running time, and the fact that it was not a sequel or based on a universally known property. Watchmen performed just like the comic flick Hulk from 2003 which bowed to $24.3M in its first day leading to a $62.1M weekend with Friday accounting for 40% of the frame. Rorschach and company may be more front-loaded this weekend putting Warner Bros. in a position to collect $57-61M over the Friday-to-Sunday period for Watchmen. In the world of comic book openers, it should fall somewhere in between the two Hulk films (last summer's The Incredible Hulk reboot debuted to $55.4M)."
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Mar 7, 2009 15:46:50 GMT -5
Dude, I never thought of it, but that is spot on. he really seemed like he wanted to do the right thing, not that he wanted to be right. They actually made him into more a hero, than the almost tragic figure he was in the comic.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 7, 2009 18:09:38 GMT -5
Saw it today I liked it
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Post by tap on Mar 7, 2009 19:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by jfpierce on Mar 7, 2009 19:51:52 GMT -5
It was pretty middle of the road to me. I'm not the kind to object over changes between a book and a movie, but the changes all seemed to be toward dumbing-down the movie. Rorschach and Nite Owl are much more stereotypically heroic and Veidt stereotypically evil than they are in the comic. The violence is also turned up to a ridiculous degree. The comic has some gruesome scenes, but the movie just revels in it. It's also full of the most annoying Snyderism from 300: abuse of slow-motion effects. Also, there were plenty of areas in which the comic should have been changed that were left alone. Moore has never really done dialogue well, and a lot of the dialogue and voiceovers sounded phony. Two more complaints: The music itself was good when viewed apart from the film, but was used in some pretty clumsy ways. Using "the times they are a'changin'" to show times actually changing? Come on. Also, the Nixon makeup looked pretty awful. There were a lot of positives about this movie, and I liked it a whole lot more than 300, but I didn't walk away thinking it was very impressive.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Mar 7, 2009 20:12:33 GMT -5
ABOUT THE ENDING, THUS SPOILERS!
SPOILERS I SAY!!
I don't think the point is that the US and the Soviets are banding together to beat Manhattan, I think the point is that they think he's punishing them for almost causing a nuclear apocalypse. As such, they decide to become friends in case he decides to destroy them all with a flick of his wrist. It's not about fear of a common enemy, it's literally fearing God.
At least that's how I see it.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Mar 7, 2009 20:42:25 GMT -5
Something about Rorschach I always wondered since I read the book. When he's in plain clothes does he act all weird and carry the "The End is Nigh" sign just to throw people off or is he just that crazy?
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 7, 2009 20:57:09 GMT -5
ABOUT THE ENDING, THUS SPOILERS! SPOILERS I SAY!! I don't think the point is that the US and the Soviets are banding together to beat Manhattan, I think the point is that they think he's punishing them for almost causing a nuclear apocalypse. As such, they decide to become friends in case he decides to destroy them all with a flick of his wrist. It's not about fear of a common enemy, it's literally fearing God. At least that's how I see it. That's a good way to look at the ending. It was still a pretty good ending, nonetheless. Also, my two favorite characters were actually Rorschach and Nite Owl II.
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Post by Silent Brad on Mar 7, 2009 21:00:49 GMT -5
My god....
I just got back from seeing it. Zack Snyder gets it. He really does. The opening credits had me in tears. And Jackie Earl Haley blew me away. He immersed himself in the character. Really wish there would have been more of the Comedian. I was amazed at how well they got Dr. Manhattan to work. I did miss some of the stuff they left out. Like the "Nothing ever ends." line or Hollis Masons death. I for one did enjoy the ending quite a bit. Maybe even more then the book. I'll need to see it again to really soak it all in. But overall I think it was a good a adaptation as we could have gotten. I just can't wait to see the director's cut now.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 7, 2009 21:04:03 GMT -5
My god.... I just got back from seeing it. Zack Snyder gets it. He really does. The opening credits had me in tears. And Jackie Earl Haley blew me away. He immersed himself in the character. Really wish there would have been more of the Comedian. I was amazed at how well they got Dr. Manhattan to work. I did miss some of the stuff they left out. Like the "Nothing ever ends." line or Hollis Masons death. I for one did enjoy the ending quite a bit. Maybe even more then the book. I'll need to see it again to really soak it all in. But overall I think it was a good a adaptation as we could have gotten. I just can't wait to see the director's cut now. Holy crap, if they come out with a director's cut, how long would that one be, if the current one is almost 3 hours?
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Post by Silent Brad on Mar 7, 2009 21:06:56 GMT -5
My god.... I just got back from seeing it. Zack Snyder gets it. He really does. The opening credits had me in tears. And Jackie Earl Haley blew me away. He immersed himself in the character. Really wish there would have been more of the Comedian. I was amazed at how well they got Dr. Manhattan to work. I did miss some of the stuff they left out. Like the "Nothing ever ends." line or Hollis Masons death. I for one did enjoy the ending quite a bit. Maybe even more then the book. I'll need to see it again to really soak it all in. But overall I think it was a good a adaptation as we could have gotten. I just can't wait to see the director's cut now. Holy crap, if they come out with a director's cut, how long would that one be, if the current one is almost 3 hours? Directors cut is soposed to clock in at 4 and a half hours +.
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Post by Grendel on Mar 7, 2009 21:58:14 GMT -5
Holy crap, if they come out with a director's cut, how long would that one be, if the current one is almost 3 hours? Directors cut is soposed to clock in at 4 and a half hours +. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I would sit through an over 4 hour movie easy if it's as good as I think it will be. I'm so pumped to see this flick, and if I don't get hosed by my friends, I'll be seeing it in glorious IMAX on Monday. They think it's playing at one theatre when I've done the research online and see it's playing at another. If they drive to the wrong theatre, tough for them, I guess.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 7, 2009 23:28:09 GMT -5
*Takes a deep, deep breath* *Hurm* Just went and saw it today, and as one of it's biggest champions (the graphic novel anyway) on this here board, I have to say that I am awed, impressed, and above all else, thankful that Snyder gave us WATCHMEN fans the movie that this material deserved. Before you get the lynch mob after me, I am not betraying my love for the novel by saying that; stop and think for a second just how much WORSE this could have been in someone else's hands, and I think you'll agree with me that Snyder, despite his annoying and criminal over-use of slow motion, gave us the best rendition of WATCHMEN that could POSSIBLY have been done. As it stood, in it's comic iteration, it was unfilmable. Snyder has tweaked and changed just enough to make this material workable, and I have to say that I applaud him for doing it. At this point, I am not going to go into details of the plot, since we all know it already: Rorschach is investigating the death of the Comedian, and stumbles upon a conspiracy even bigger than he could have ever imagined. What Snyder has done with this story is downright beautiful. His actors and actresses bring the WATCHMEN universe brilliantly to life, and while I too thought that Malin Ackerman was the weak link in the ensemble, she was only the weak link due to the picture perfect renditions of the other actors around her. Patrick Wilson's Nite Owl II was the embodiment of his comic counterpart, and Jeffery Dean Morgan was note perfect as Edward Blake, AKA The Comedian. I hope that the studios re-release this around March of next year, and a serious For Your Consideration campaign is mounted for both Morgan and Jackie Earle Haylie, who brought my namesake so vividly to life that he BECAME Rorschach in my eyes. Literally, I forgot Haylie was an actor playing a role, and that is the highest compliment I can give the man. Yes, they changed some stuff around (Now it is Nite Owl II that warns Ozymandias about a mask killer, instead of Rorschach, and Rorschach's corresponding journal entry is about Dreiberg, instead of Veidt and Veidt's possible homosexuality is deleted; Laurie's initial rant against Rorschach is deleted; Jon and Janey Slater's big fight and relationship is omitted) and the ending is totally different that what Moore had done in the book. But I felt that those changes didn't hurt WATCHMEN one bit, and if anything, Snyder has put in more in this film than he ever took away from the book. Fans, I truly do believe this is as good as it gets for this material. Everything is slavishly loyal to the world of the graphic novel, even if Snyder does make a few missteps along the way with his egregious overuse of slow motion, and his at times jarring musical choices. The Nixon makeup was indeed atrocious, and I wonder just who the hell, after viewing Frank Langella's makeup minimal turn as Nixon in FROST/NIXON, thought that making the Nixon of WATCHMEN look worse than a puppet from SPITTING IMAGE was a good idea? Anyway, I was amazed by this movie, and it just moved up behind JAWS as my second favorite movie of all time. Bravo, to all involved. **** PS-There was a family of three adults and three kids at my screening, and after the first sighting of Jon's big blue package, the mother kept removing the kids during every scene Jon was in, and during the sex scenes as well. I just kept wondering what the hell the woman expected? Was rating the damned film R not enough of a deterrent or warning for her?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 23:38:02 GMT -5
Greatest Movie Ever *Spoilers about to come* I will admit that I had doubts because alot of people said that it was overrated, but honestly I think that noone really got the material and they were just expecting another superhero movie. I will admit, I was about to cry not only during that final scene when Jon basically said "I Give Up", but when Rorschach died, that did it. I loved every moment of it, with the only thing that irritated me was the audience I was watching it with. Each person just liked the violence and jokes, but they were just "meh" thoughout the whole movie
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 7, 2009 23:43:17 GMT -5
Glad you liked it. And did you happen to notice Hooded Justice's Russian accent? There's another nod to the novel, right there.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Mar 7, 2009 23:48:40 GMT -5
I loved the Bowie look-a-like cameo at the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 23:49:28 GMT -5
Glad you liked it. And did you happen to notice Hooded Justice's Russian accent? There's another nod to the novel, right there. I honestly know nothing about "Watchmen" at all. Which is why I really went into this with no expectations. This movie really just blew me away though
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Post by erisi236 on Mar 8, 2009 0:08:19 GMT -5
Boy, Zack Snyder sure knows how to make a quality intro that's for sure, this and Dawn of the Dead just really set me up for the rest of the film so well. P.S. Dear Mr. Snyder please make Dark Knight Returns next.
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Post by invaderdave on Mar 8, 2009 0:34:39 GMT -5
So, I saw the movie last night, and damn was I far from disappointed. There were some things I liked better in the movie than in the comic, to be perfectly honest with you.
SPOILERS (come on now, if you haven't read the book, or watched the film, why are you here?) Such as Nite Owl's reaction to Ozymandias' plot, and to Manhattan blowing up Rorshach. Seriously, Dreiberg beating the shit out of Ozy, and Ozy not fighting back because he knew he deserved it...THAT meant a whole lot more to me than the characters folding like napkins in Ozy's company.
Long story short, great film. I loved it.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 8, 2009 0:45:21 GMT -5
So, I saw the movie last night, and damn was I far from disappointed. There were some things I liked better in the movie than in the comic, to be perfectly honest with you. SPOILERS (come on now, if you haven't read the book, or watched the film, why are you here?) Such as Nite Owl's reaction to Ozymandias' plot, and to Manhattan blowing up Rorshach. Seriously, Dreiberg beating the excretory matter out of Ozy, and Ozy not fighting back because he knew he deserved it...THAT meant a whole lot more to me than the characters folding like napkins in Ozy's company. Long story short, great film. I loved it. Agreed. I also wonder if Rorschach's discovery of the mask material will make the director's cut?
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