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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 9, 2009 17:00:46 GMT -5
A Jericho vs Legends storyline ending in a PPV match with Lawler is fine for Summerslam or something like that. Being the payoff for Wrestlemania would be epic fail. Honestly if it isn't someone along the lines of Hogan or Austin this is a wasted build up. I couldn't agree with you more. The only two people I can see Jericho facing at Mania is either Austin or Hogan.
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Post by CM Crünk is teh 'CRAP! on Mar 9, 2009 17:07:02 GMT -5
How about Fat Dean Malenko vs. Chris Jericho. Book it.
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Post by Loki on Mar 9, 2009 17:12:51 GMT -5
I'd be disappointed.
But actually, is there a way the whole "Jericho hates Legends" angle can't end up with a disappointing and lame Jericho v Old Geezer match that Jericho will likely be losing?
Hell, even if it's Hulk Hogan [half-crippled], or Austin [75% crippled] or Rock [not wrestling since 2004], what could come out of it?
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Post by KLRA on Mar 9, 2009 17:17:52 GMT -5
I'd be disappointed. But actually, is there a way the whole "Jericho hates Legends" angle can't end up with a disappointing and lame Jericho v Old Geezer match that Jericho will likely be losing? Hell, even if it's Hulk Hogan [half-crippled], or Austin [75% crippled] or Rock [not wrestling since 2004], what could come out of it? Well here's the way I see it. Remember Austin/Hart at WM13 where the double turn happened? I see something sort of similar. Jericho goes after this legend with everything that he's got. But the fans still keep cheering for him, and the legend just does not give up. This causes Jericho to start to either a)come around, or b) launch himself into being the biggest prick in the history of wrestling and further elevate him.
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Post by Jay-Jay on Mar 9, 2009 17:30:20 GMT -5
He won't fight Jerry Lawler, some smark news reporter put 2+2 together and equaled 5 after reading that Lawler never had a Wrestlemania match.
He'll be fighting Hogan with Rourke as the special guest referee. It would make no sense for him to fight Austin, Austin has stepped down, the whole storyline is about legends who don't know when to give up because they always want to hear that applause from the fans. Hogan never retired and always comes back, Austin did.
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Post by Xander Crews on Mar 9, 2009 17:31:45 GMT -5
Jericho could still lose this match and come out on top/progress. Lets say it's Jericho vs Austin or Hogan.
They have a good back and forth match then something happens (lets say a low blow by Jericho on his opponent the ref doesn't see) where Jericho is at the edge of the ring where the legends and Mickey Rourke are sitting. While the ref has his back to Jericho/is checking on Stone Cold/Hogan Rourke jumps the barrier and climbs up onto the ring outside the ropes. He and Jericho start verbally sparing and finally (just as Austin/Hogan starts coming around) Rourke just socks Jericho in the jaw.
Jericho stumbles around straight into a Stunner/Big Boot, 1 2 3 the legend wins. Rourke and the legends get in the ring and everyone celebrates.
Jericho comes out the next night on raw and says it took Mickey Rourke cold cocking him for the washed up legend to win the match and proceeds to be an even bigger heel.
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Post by Loki on Mar 9, 2009 17:44:27 GMT -5
I'd be disappointed. But actually, is there a way the whole "Jericho hates Legends" angle can't end up with a disappointing and lame Jericho v Old Geezer match that Jericho will likely be losing? Hell, even if it's Hulk Hogan [half-crippled], or Austin [75% crippled] or Rock [not wrestling since 2004], what could come out of it? Well here's the way I see it. Remember Austin/Hart at WM13 where the double turn happened? I see something sort of similar. Jericho goes after this legend with everything that he's got. But the fans still keep cheering for him, and the legend just does not give up. This causes Jericho to start to either a)come around, or b) launch himself into being the biggest prick in the history of wrestling and further elevate him. But Austin/Bret worked because we had: an experienced top-notch worker in need of a new twist, and an up-and-comer out for his first, true defining moment. Jericho/Legend would be more or less another take of Hogan v Orton... "wasting" Jericho in a feel-good nostalgia match for the joy of the crowd isn't a great idea in my eyes. Pretty much nothing can save that angle IMO
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Post by neilfrazier on Mar 9, 2009 18:41:56 GMT -5
I'd love it if Jericho starts to cut a promo on Bret Hart, only to have DH Smith challenege him to a match. It won't happen since he is a rookie, but it would help get him over.
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Post by Beans on Mar 9, 2009 19:31:29 GMT -5
I'd love it if Jericho starts to cut a promo on Bret Hart, only to have DH Smith challenege him to a match. It won't happen since he is a rookie, but it would help get him over. That'll be worth the build up. Why not have him make Michael Cole cry and then have Heidenreich run down and defend his honour.
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Post by Loki on Mar 9, 2009 19:35:33 GMT -5
I'd love it if Jericho starts to cut a promo on Bret Hart, only to have DH Smith challenege him to a match. It won't happen since he is a rookie, but it would help get him over. I'd take that scenario, as Great American Bash-ish as it may be, over Jericho v Broken-Down-Old-Man-Who'll-Win-Anyway.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 9, 2009 19:39:11 GMT -5
He'll be fighting Hogan with Rourke as the special guest referee. It would make no sense for him to fight Austin, Austin has stepped down, the whole storyline is about legends who don't know when to give up because they always want to hear that applause from the fans. Hogan never retired and always comes back, Austin did. This makes a lot of sense. Hogan, as you stated, is the prime example of not letting go. Jericho would be able to fully bring his speech full circle about legends not giving it up if he's facing Hogan. Austin could still make sense, only for the fact that's he'll be an official legend the night prior to Mania, but he won't have the storyline that this has built up to. Jericho/Legend would be more or less another take of Hogan v Orton... "wasting" Jericho in a feel-good nostalgia match for the joy of the crowd isn't a great idea in my eyes. Pretty much nothing can save that angle IMO It's better to have Jericho "wasted" in a match that has a great build-up and benefits Jericho's character, and will, even if not technically a good match, be a memorable moment at Wrestlemania, as opposed to him being wasted in the MITB, where his character has no room to shine and develop further.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 9, 2009 19:41:31 GMT -5
Ill be about as amused as lizzy here
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Post by Loki on Mar 9, 2009 19:52:10 GMT -5
Jericho/Legend would be more or less another take of Hogan v Orton... "wasting" Jericho in a feel-good nostalgia match for the joy of the crowd isn't a great idea in my eyes. Pretty much nothing can save that angle IMO It's better to have Jericho "wasted" in a match that has a great build-up and benefits Jericho's character, and will, even if not technically a good match, be a memorable moment at Wrestlemania, as opposed to him being wasted in the MITB, where his character has no room to shine and develop further. And who said a word about MitB? Ok, I see your point, but how getting his ass handed by a semi-retired [if we're lucky...] old Superstar of yesterdecade [again, if we're lucky] will benefit Jericho's character? What could that add to his "sycophants blah blah hypocrites blah blah integrity blah blah" Serious Jericho character? Is Jericho already in that stage of a Superstar's career when he's wrestling "Dream Matches" and "Special Guests"? Hell, at least they could have booked him to face Taker... the longest serving WWF Superstar. Now, THAT would have been great. Albeit the outcome would have been as obvious as it is with Taker v HBK, and with Jericho v Sammartiono... But still, it would have been better for Jericho and for us
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Post by blef on Mar 9, 2009 19:54:57 GMT -5
I'm holding out for a gauntlet match, with Lawler as one of the legends (but not THE legend at the end who beats Jericho - that'd be Hogan or Austin...)
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 9, 2009 20:15:05 GMT -5
It's better to have Jericho "wasted" in a match that has a great build-up and benefits Jericho's character, and will, even if not technically a good match, be a memorable moment at Wrestlemania, as opposed to him being wasted in the MITB, where his character has no room to shine and develop further. And who said a word about MitB? He has a qualifying match for MITB tonight on Raw. And who said a word about MitB? Ok, I see your point, but how getting his ass handed by a semi-retired [if we're lucky...] Hell, at least they could have booked him to face Taker... the longest serving WWF Superstar. Now, THAT would have been great. Albeit the outcome would have been as obvious as it is with Taker v HBK, and with Jericho v Sammartiono... I'm behind you on Jericho/Taker at Mania, as I was begging for that match months ago (they had the perfect opportunity at the Rumble, but failed to capitalize on it). I just feel that, though you are right that there is better options for Jericho, the WWE don't seem to be able to capitalize on them and just stick him in MITB. At least this year they're giving him a big match, which we haven't seen since WM20 (or WM19, if you don't count Jericho/Christian as a big WM match).
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