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Post by Loki on Jun 27, 2005 10:06:14 GMT -5
Were those "Cena, Cena" chants dubbed?
They seemed to start too suddenly and sounded too "full" to be real.
Same goes for the "Shelton" ones, while part of the audience was rooting for Carlito.
Is it just my (biased) imagination?
BTW, glad to hear some "Cena Sucks" chants...
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Post by KLRA on Jun 27, 2005 10:23:55 GMT -5
They may have been, but they weren't as obvious as the GOLDBERG! chants WCW used to do.
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Post by Asics Johnson on Jun 27, 2005 11:12:37 GMT -5
Everybody always said the Goldberg chants were fake. Well, every time I went to a WCW event, and Goldberg was around, the ENTIRE audience was chanting his name. I think people (read: phony internet "insiders") just starting saying that crap because they didn't like Goldberg. You know, one of those "oh, he's not a great technician, there's NO WAY anyone could like this guy" types you run into on the internet every now and again.
I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Goldberg was ****ING OVER.
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Post by Two-Time Champ Darth Violence on Jun 27, 2005 11:14:37 GMT -5
Everybody always said the Goldberg chants were fake. Well, every time I went to a WCW event, and Goldberg was around, the ENTIRE audience was chanting his name. I think people (read: phony internet "insiders") just starting saying that crap because they didn't like Goldberg. You know, one of those "oh, he's not a great technician, there's NO WAY anyone could like this guy" types you run into on the internet every now and again. I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Goldberg was ****ING OVER. That's absolutely true. Goldberg was very over. WCW wasn't piping in chants in the studio though, they were doing it over the sound system in the arena. Pretty clever, actually. |
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Post by hbkismyherostill on Jun 27, 2005 11:14:53 GMT -5
Everybody always said the Goldberg chants were fake. Well, every time I went to a WCW event, and Goldberg was around, the ENTIRE audience was chanting his name. I think people (read: phony internet "insiders") just starting saying that crap because they didn't like Goldberg. You know, one of those "oh, he's not a great technician, there's NO WAY anyone could like this guy" types you run into on the internet every now and again. I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Goldberg was ****ING OVER. Thankyou. I am so sick of hearin this "oh since I don't like him nobody does crap." So I suppose the WWE dubbed the crowd jumping to their feet when Cena comes out as well? |
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Post by crazyrose on Jun 27, 2005 11:18:43 GMT -5
no its true, they would turn the Goldberg chant on the sound system even when he wasn't there, I can't remember exaclty when but it was time like when they killed his heat and during other people's matches
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Post by Asics Johnson on Jun 27, 2005 11:25:08 GMT -5
Blah blah blah.
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Post by Hollywood Cthulhu on Jun 27, 2005 11:31:29 GMT -5
It would be pretty tough to dub in cheers during a live ppv. Cena is way over, face the facts.
I loved the group of people cheering for Carlito. There were only about 8 of em, but they were so close to the parabolic mike, that they sounded like 100
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Post by Asics Johnson on Jun 27, 2005 11:38:22 GMT -5
Yeah. Much as I hate Cena, I refuse to believe that they're piping in chants for him. I mean, seriously, why would they bother fabricating crowd chants for one guy, when there's another guy who can create his own? That s*** would never happen. Cena sucks, in my book, but you can look in the audience when he comes out, and tell he's hugely over, for whatever reason.
Piping In Chants = Internet Fabrication
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Post by KLRA on Jun 27, 2005 11:43:27 GMT -5
I would never say they've been piping them in for Cena, because you can tell when they show the shots of the actual crowd. I do remember watching WCW a few times and hearing the massive "Goldberg" chants but seeing only a handful in the audience actually moving there mouth in time to it. *shrugs* He was, however, at one time massively over where they wouldn't have needed to pump in the chants.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Jun 27, 2005 11:44:23 GMT -5
I thing the "Goldberg" chants were added to his ring music, which would make it seem like they were getting pumped in, but still covered by the crowd reaction. Yes, Goldberg was extremely over and there was no need to do it. The did get caught at some point later in Goldberg's run.
As for Cena, generally they don't pump in chants at live shows, since its extremely dangerous if you don't get the timing down right. I'm going to a RAW houseshow in 3 weeks, so I'll let you know if he's over.
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Post by mancalledstinger on Jun 27, 2005 12:27:15 GMT -5
Everybody always said the Goldberg chants were fake. Well, every time I went to a WCW event, and Goldberg was around, the ENTIRE audience was chanting his name. I think people (read: phony internet "insiders") just starting saying that crap because they didn't like Goldberg. You know, one of those "oh, he's not a great technician, there's NO WAY anyone could like this guy" types you run into on the internet every now and again. I can tell you from personal experience that Bill Goldberg was ****ING OVER. March 1999, Monday Nitro, Canada. Bret Hart comes out to a HUGE ovation. He calls out Goldberg and the second the music hits, a major piped in chant begins. The crowd was solidly behind Hart and the split second the music started up, a GOldberg chant that loud, that fast? Don't think so buddy. Yes, chants are piped in, but Cena's aren't, if anytihng the boo's were taken out on Smackdown's. |
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Post by Bobafett on Jun 27, 2005 14:33:32 GMT -5
:PAsics..are you bitter at the Internet because with its help we have all found ouyt that Flair and Hogan are useless and not worthy of to be called the greatest?   |
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Post by richardnoggin on Jun 27, 2005 14:37:16 GMT -5
i think the goldberg chants towards the ends were definitely piped in. thats why you heard this huge goldberg chant but no one you saw on camera had their mouths moving. it's also why Gillberg had the over the top fake gillberg chants when he debuted in the WWF.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Jun 27, 2005 15:01:16 GMT -5
Like it or not, WCW DID pipe in Goldberg chants at the start of his career.
For Chrissakes, it was part of his MUSIC. INARGUABLE. Don't deny that it happened and then try and patronize people who point out that it DID happen.
If, instead of plugging your eyes and ears to search for new ways to whine about the internet, you thought about it, it might have struck you that the fans had to have picked up the chant from SOMEWHERE.
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Post by A Magician Named SHAKE on Jun 27, 2005 15:11:33 GMT -5
Regarding whether or not Cena is over, I was at the Raw show when he was drafted and the crowd went CRAZY when his music hit. Hell, I don't even like him all that much and I was marking out like crazy.
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Post by richardnoggin on Jun 27, 2005 15:13:29 GMT -5
same here.
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Post by kanyoncutter on Jun 27, 2005 15:21:22 GMT -5
Yeah goldberg did get his chants piped in on several occations it was obvious, but he was hugely popular for awhile. Cena is currently over big time so at the moment there would be no reason to pump in crowd chants. I have also noticed the cena sucks chants and random levels of booing to when he is out there so I figure the whole mixture is legit for him. Its basically running over the same thing repeatedly.
Did WCW do it with goldberg yes but it happened more so towards the end.
Has the WWE done it with Cena no not so far. (Personal experience is that he is for real when it comes to crowd reaction)
Would the WWE do it if it benefited them yes.
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Post by scbg on Jun 27, 2005 15:52:42 GMT -5
The way people chanted "Gold-berg" sounded more like they were mocking him. Kind of like "Dar-ryl. Dar-ryl. Dar-ryl."
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Post by Asics Johnson on Jun 28, 2005 13:52:01 GMT -5
Well, you know, it IS possible for two faces to be cheered when they're competing against one another. Bret Hart was very over, and Goldberg was very over... so they were both given the proper responses from the crowd. How's that so hard to understand? How do you know they didn't pipe in cheers for the Hitman, and they were just immediately overtaken by the crowd's "Goldberg" chants? I mean, both ideas are equally ridiculous, but are equally possible (which is to say, not very possible at all) at the same time... but I'm not the one who started the rumor, I'm just the one trying to call bulls*** on it.
Oh, ok. The old WCW sound guy must be your uncle or something, I guess. HOW THE **** DO YOU KNOW?!
How do you figure it was part of his music? WCW never officially released it on CD, I don't believe. I'm sure you hear Goldberg chants in some of those crappy internet themes, hell, you can hear the crowd in half the songs you download. However, I've heard a clean and clear version of his song before, and there was no crowd to be found. Sorry.
Oh, gimme a ****in' break. I don't have to search anywhere to find new horses*** wrestling propaganda on the internet. It's everywhere, just look at any site. And this is no different.
Oh, and your argument about them having to get the chants somewhere is absolutely ridiculous. That would imply that EVERY chant EVER would have to start out as a piped in faux-chant. Goldberg chants, Austin chants, Rocky chants, Hogan chants, HBK chants, Angle chants... it's their ****ing name, for cryin' out loud! A retard could pick up on that.
The bottom line is that all of this "piped chant" started as a big internet rumor. Nobody has any kind of proof that it happened. I went to many a WCW show, and I saw Goldberg every time, and every time, the fans were chanting his name louder than anyone else's. That's personal experience, folks, and that's more proof than anyone else has. So you can quit with the "it's the internet, so it's the truth" garbage, and you can quit trying to guilt trip me for not accepting all this trash that gets thrown around by a bunch of uninformed smarks (or marks, whatever) on websites, message boards, and chat rooms. It won't work.
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