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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jul 31, 2005 4:14:41 GMT -5
I for one like the Masterlock, and I think it's actually starting to get over, thanks to endless squashed and Masterlock challenges (complain all you want, but it's an old school method that works). He got a good rub at the expense of Shelton Benjamin (hopefully it being a handicap match saves him some credability). I think Big Show-Masters match is good because people actually believe that the Big Show is going to break the masterlock.
But say it'll be a good rub for the Big show, of all people, to not be able to break out of the Masterlock, making it even more special when some new guy who needs a push finally gets out of it. I like hosses, but I love smaller technical guys who either outsmart or use their superior wrestling knowledge to get out of 'impossible to get out of' submissions.
The only problem is that Big show, is a guy who deserves to be booked like a monster all the time, and I don't think it's right for him to be jobbed all the time to just anybody.
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Post by vitamink on Jul 31, 2005 4:20:42 GMT -5
I think Big Show should break it in the Challenge, thus leading to a match at Summer Slam where Masters defeats Show with the Masterlock.
Big Show keeps his cred by being the first to break the lock, and Masters regains his cred by defeating Big Show.
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Post by vampirebadger on Jul 31, 2005 5:35:36 GMT -5
no he shouldnt it would make it seem completly un breakable.
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Post by Papelmate on Jul 31, 2005 6:10:46 GMT -5
Hell no. Big Show is shit now and needs to put over Masters. Being able to put Show out with the masterlock will gain Masters credibility with the marks
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 31, 2005 6:18:01 GMT -5
i think he shouldnt break the lock cause the marks at the moment think show is going to break it and to be honest the big show is fading in drawablity, and masters is a hell of a heel, so have masters over show at slam then get the ic title of mr cool and have it switched to masters somehow
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Post by skyday1402 on Jul 31, 2005 6:19:55 GMT -5
I think he should put Big Show down with it too. I like Masters and don't like Big Show being jobbed to just anyone, just this is a perfect set up to put Masters over. What is it gonna prove if Big Show breaks it? That he's big?
Uhmmm.... yeah?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 31, 2005 6:20:28 GMT -5
No, he shouldn't break the masterlock... it would be a total waste of any heat Masters has built up... they need to redebut James Gibson/Jamie Knoble as a technical star that breaks it through skill
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 31, 2005 6:21:52 GMT -5
No, he shouldn't break the masterlock... it would be a total waste of any heat Masters has built up... they need to redebut James Gibson/Jamie Knoble as a technical star that breaks it through skill that would be so unrealistic, but to be honest i thought eugene was gonna break it that would of sucked. aint ovw got any power men that need to be made in wwe |
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Post by vampirebadger on Jul 31, 2005 7:44:29 GMT -5
No, he shouldn't break the masterlock... it would be a total waste of any heat Masters has built up... they need to redebut James Gibson/Jamie Knoble as a technical star that breaks it through skill that would be so unrealistic, but to be honest i thought eugene was gonna break it that would of sucked. aint ovw got any power men that need to be made in wwe ovw could have burchill come in and break it |
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Post by amsiraK on Jul 31, 2005 8:01:44 GMT -5
The Masterlock Challenge is a great segment. It keeps Masters in the fans' mind while not putting him in a bunch of truly pointless throw-away matches. Like the Angle Invitational, this is a device being used to troll for a feud. Which is good. They could half-ass it and totally mishandle Masters as they do so many.
So the question is - is a feud with Big Show worth ending the Challenge? Is there enough to carry a program with these two? I don't know. I like Show. I like him a lot. He has the ability to be endlessly entertaining in promos and he's a big freakin' guy who can plant you under the ring. The creative potential is seemingly limitless... so of course they don't use him to that end as much as possible.
Masters is also pretty handy promo-wise. He's very emotive and can hold his own on the mic. (Well, I like him anyway. He's not a complete Lita.) With some de-greening, he could be a good addition to the roster.
Maybe a run with Show might do him good. What're the odds he can manhandle THAT guy?
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jul 31, 2005 10:10:59 GMT -5
Bottom line is... if Big Show is the one who breaks the masterlock. It'll seem like a cop out. Building up this unbreakable hold, then using the WWE's old standby to be the one to actually break it.
I, however, see nothing wrong with Masters deliberately trying to avoid Big Show, making it seem like he figures Show can break it. Then, when the time comes for an actual match... everyone expects the forgone conclusion of Show breaking it. Even Show himself.... the Masterlock gets put on, Show tries to break it... all of a sudden becomes really wide eyed realizing he can't... then slowly, gets put out and has to either tap, or falls unconscious.
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Post by Ratings on Jul 31, 2005 10:22:07 GMT -5
I think Big Show and Masters will feud towards Summerslam, then during the match Masters will put Show in the Masterlock, Big Show will power out of it, beat Masters and Masters will find himself as the heel version of Val Venis.
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Post by phentari on Jul 31, 2005 10:23:52 GMT -5
Actually, I think they can have their cake and eat it, too, in this case.
Here's what I envision:
1. Masters applies the 'lock.
2. Show struggles, and...amazingly...is forced down to his knees.
3. The ref checks...Show isn't quite out cold!
4. Even more amazingly, Show begins to fight back and powers back up to one knee, as Masters' eyes widen in disbelief.
5. Masters voluntarily releases the 'lock and blasts Show across the back of the head, then lays into him with a serious beatdown.
When called on to explain his actions, Masters could give any of a dozen different explanations--Show obviously cheated by greasing himself up before the match, Show's hand went all the way down when the ref checked it, whatever. The thing is, Masters emphasizes that Show did NOT break the Masterlock--Masters chose to release him.
Show keeps his "irresistible force" rub, Masters draws even MORE heel heat, a la the traditional heel-champ-walks-out-and-says "I was not pinned for the title!"
Feud on.
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Post by thehatman on Jul 31, 2005 10:34:06 GMT -5
I, however, see nothing wrong with Masters deliberately trying to avoid Big Show, making it seem like he figures Show can break it. Then, when the time comes for an actual match... everyone expects the forgone conclusion of Show breaking it. Even Show himself.... the Masterlock gets put on, Show tries to break it... all of a sudden becomes really wide eyed realizing he can't... then slowly, gets put out and has to either tap, or falls unconscious. Now THAT is the way it should be booked. Then, you still have the challenge, AND you can make a new star soar by having them break the hold. |
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jul 31, 2005 10:34:18 GMT -5
I like that idea Phentari, i've been a fan of Masters since his debut (I have Vince McMahon Hoss Love Syndrome or VMHLS) and he really has come on leaps and bounds IMO
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Post by mainsupreme on Jul 31, 2005 11:28:57 GMT -5
big shwo wuill be buried if he jobs to it clean. So no.
Let it be like it was with billy jack haynes.
Masters is afraid to lock the hold, he gets a cheapshot in before the hold. With a chair or belt or something. And than he locks the hold, making the showster go nighty-night.
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Post by crazyrose on Jul 31, 2005 12:11:40 GMT -5
Brock
Big Show needs the Simon system
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Jul 31, 2005 17:54:27 GMT -5
How about: Masters goes to apply the lock, but can't, simply because Show is too damn wide. Or is that too much like booking a pair of hunchbacks as an unbeatable tag team: unbeatable because you can't pin both their shoulders to the mat simultaneously.
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Post by kungfucorny on Jul 31, 2005 18:27:12 GMT -5
Or is that too much like booking a pair of hunchbacks as an unbeatable tag team: unbeatable because you can't pin both their shoulders to the mat simultaneously. I hope WWE creative isn't reading this. Yikes. Any time Show is around, I am entertained. I like his promos a lot, and he's not THAT bad in the ring. I'd prefer to see him over say, Viscera or Diva Search. Plus if Masters needs to work on his skills, I think Show would be a good guy to have him with, because if Masters started working too stiff, Show could just crush him like a bug. |
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Aug 1, 2005 4:35:14 GMT -5
The hunchback story, as far as I recall is actually based on something that Bobby The Brain came up with  Which means that its far too subtle for WWE Creative to want to steal  (hopefully) |
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