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Post by Rorschach on Jun 27, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -5
James Rolfe comments on Michael's passing in his latest video: www.cinemassacre.com/new/?p=1654And no, he doesn't do any "AVGN" stuff or resort to tasteless jokes (he makes some lighthearted comments on the crotch grab move and some of the scenes in the videos, but that's pretty much it), instead keeping it respectful because he's a fan of MJ as well. James referring to Michael as the last remnant of the 1980's is one of the saddest things I've heard since his passing. It's so true. Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big.
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Jun 27, 2009 16:32:19 GMT -5
Okay I just heard this on my news here. What exactly do the French have against Michael Jackson?
One journalist called him a "Mutant"
Some of their journalists have called him "The Icon of our disturbing modernity"
Herve Cannet of the La Nouvelle Republique said Jackson was "neither black nor white; neither old nor young; neither child nor adult; neither man nor woman" but rather a "sort of androgynous imp"
I never thought I could hate some French People till now
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 27, 2009 16:46:46 GMT -5
Okay I just heard this on my news here. What exactly do the French have against Michael Jackson? One journalist called him a "Mutant" Some of their journalists have called him "The Icon of our disturbing modernity" Herve Cannet of the La Nouvelle Republique said Jackson was "neither black nor white; neither old nor young; neither child nor adult; neither man nor woman" but rather a "sort of androgynous imp" I never thought I could hate some French People till now Well, members of the media loved to pick on MJ. I can't tell you just the amount of glee they seemed to report on the sexual charges in 03 and 95. And of course, it just continues today. Sad fact is, Michael was a target because of his fame. But I must admit I'm a bit surprised given Europe and Asia seemed to really love Michael.
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Post by Franchise on Jun 27, 2009 16:51:35 GMT -5
Thought a lot of you would like this...
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Post by CrazySting on Jun 27, 2009 17:23:28 GMT -5
Sad fact is, Michael was a target because of his fame. Dude, he was a target because of his weird behaviour, plastic surgery addiction and weird behaviour with kids that he openly admitted. For the record, I don't think he did anything with them, but it was creepy as hell that he didn't realize there was anything wrong with it. Beyonce is famous. I don't hear about her all the time because she generally stays out of trouble. And there are loads of other famous people that don't get treated like that because they don't act that weird.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 27, 2009 17:32:30 GMT -5
James referring to Michael as the last remnant of the 1980's is one of the saddest things I've heard since his passing. It's so true. Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big. And Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are all shells of their former selves, so for all intents and purposes, the 80s are dead now.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 27, 2009 17:39:14 GMT -5
Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big. And Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are all shells of their former selves, so for all intents and purposes, the 80s are dead now. I'll give you Poison and Run DMC...but IMO, Death Magnetic was the best Metallica album in YEARS, and brought them back to their roots. I think Metallica is as strong as ever. A friend and I were talking about music icons yesterday though, and I asked him to come up with a few who are still with us who might have rivaled Jackson's impact, and the first four names he came up with were the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Madonna, and Bob Dylan. THAT tells me something about the state of today's music. I mean, who out there is innovating anymore?
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Post by mo on Jun 27, 2009 17:43:52 GMT -5
Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big. And Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are all shells of their former selves, so for all intents and purposes, the 80s are dead now. Michael wasn't exactly in the prime of his career either. I don't agree with the "death of the 80's" stuff either. But certainly a big part of it has died.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jun 27, 2009 18:57:09 GMT -5
before it was thriller, it was....
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Post by Paul on Jun 27, 2009 20:19:14 GMT -5
I encourge everyone to get the 2-CD compilation "Michael Jackson- Gold". It has a lot of his great Motown solo material that doesn't get a lot of radio airplay anymore.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 27, 2009 20:31:51 GMT -5
Sad fact is, Michael was a target because of his fame. Dude, he was a target because of his weird behaviour, plastic surgery addiction and weird behaviour with kids that he openly admitted. For the record, I don't think he did anything with them, but it was creepy as hell that he didn't realize there was anything wrong with it. True, but would they have paid any attention if his name were Joe Smith and he worked at a Subway? Trust me, his fame as a performer made him that much more attractive a target. The media really gets off on catching famous people having a hard time. I know there are three camps on Michael: apologists, critics and fanatics. Apologists work to explain and understand Michael's issues and remains fans, Critics are going to just use every stumble and faux pas as a reason to trash him. Fanatics are the people who faint at the concerts and, according to CNN, tragically have chosen to take their own lives rather than live without Michael. I freely to admit to being an apologist. I respect the man for his skills as an artist and his amazing abilities as a performer. By the same token, while I can never ever understand why he behaved the way he did, I accept that Michael was a product of a traumatic upbringing and the unceasing glare of the spotlight. With that understanding, I feel empathy and sympathy for a man who just wanted the world to love him in his own simple way. My heart goes out to the fans, his family and those who were emotionally touched by him and his music. I know I haven't probably changed any minds with those who are critical of Michael, but I did want to offer the point of view of one man who was a fan, is a fan and always will have something by Jackson on his iPod or PC for the rest of his life.
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Post by Queen of the Harpies on Jun 27, 2009 20:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by Bauertainments on Jun 27, 2009 21:55:32 GMT -5
James referring to Michael as the last remnant of the 1980's is one of the saddest things I've heard since his passing. It's so true. Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big. Also, even though two of Metallica's three finest albums imo (Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets) were released in the 80's they really didn't hit it big until th very late 80's and with The Black Album in the 1990's. So, I don't consider them to be an "80's band". And besides, the 80's aren't fully dead yet... Mr. T's still with us!
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jun 27, 2009 22:09:14 GMT -5
Umm...Poison, Metallica, and RUN-DMC are still around. The "last remanent of the 1980s" thing might be stretching it a bit. There were other things going on in the 80's besides Michael...though the argument could be made that none were as big. Also, even though two of Metallica's three finest albums imo (Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets) were released in the 80's they really didn't hit it big until th very late 80's and with The Black Album in the 1990's. So, I don't consider them to be an "80's band". And besides, the 80's aren't fully dead yet... Mr. T's still with us! We still got Madonna and Hulk Hogan. That's the 2 biggest Icon's of my 80's childhood I got left.
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Post by Bauertainments on Jun 27, 2009 22:21:14 GMT -5
Here's something I found on youtube. It's Bad, remixed with the Ghostbusters theme. Sorry if it's already been posted. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRnH4dqHP5k(user doesn't allow embedding)
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 27, 2009 22:48:46 GMT -5
Just hearing that (big surprise) Sony is planning on getting a Jackson anthology of Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory and Invincible all in one box set in the next week or so. Oh, and just so we can keep it wrestling related, your friend and mine, Ultimate Warrior, has commented on MJ's passing: www.ifight365.com/2009/06/ultimate-warrior-on-death-of-michael-jackson/
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Post by shadowforce420 on Jun 27, 2009 22:55:18 GMT -5
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jun 28, 2009 0:11:27 GMT -5
Just hearing that (big surprise) Sony is planning on getting a Jackson anthology of Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory and Invincible all in one box set in the next week or so. I wonder if they'll include all the bonus tracks that were on the anniversary editions. I recall Thriller getting a 2-disc, 25th anniversary release last year, and I'm pretty sure Bad got some similar treatment as well.
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Post by Silent Brad on Jun 28, 2009 0:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by Thomas Powers of Paine on Jun 28, 2009 2:25:51 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior would be the most hated heel ever if he were still wrestling. The sort of guy you just love to hate. While I do believe Jacko was a pedo, WA-RI-AH says it while being a world class A-hole. I'm a sarcastic, snarky bastard myself but even this puts me to shame.
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