greate
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Post by greate on Dec 14, 2008 21:24:46 GMT -5
Man I just wtached Impact and I don't think that was right. I didn't count the minutes as I was too interested in watching and enjoying the show, but I don't think it mattered. Oh and not like it will matter either but I am gonna shoot on Lance, you took a shot at TNA well here's your recipt Lance Storm may be said to have been past his prime but he never had one. He has settled into Bruno Samartino disease all too easily and frankly it's embarassing. You wre a talented wrestler who never broke out as you could or should have and maybe it has to do with the lack of charisma witch would undoubtabily have lead to TNA not hiring you if that is they knew who you were to begin with. Enjoy the winter in Calgary sincerley yours one of a few million TNA fans who don't care for your crap. Truth hurts jackass XD
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Agent P
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Post by Agent P on Dec 14, 2008 21:24:52 GMT -5
He's just repeating the same things Bryan says on his show.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Dec 14, 2008 21:27:21 GMT -5
ya know if Lance Storm didn't actually have semi-valid arguments, I'd find his ranting annoying. but the man makes valid points.
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ICBM
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Post by ICBM on Dec 14, 2008 21:55:16 GMT -5
ya know if Lance Storm didn't actually have semi-valid arguments, I'd find his ranting annoying. but the man makes valid points. And to you here is a valid point--All of the non-wrestling stuff on the show this week (except the beautiful people) furthered thier respective angles/programs. Also whoever called me a jackass I ask you politely to recant. I didn't insult you and there was more opinion in his rant. The fact was yes there was less wrestling the truth is it furthered the stories. Enjoy the show
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 14, 2008 22:59:52 GMT -5
Man I just wtached Impact and I don't think that was right. I didn't count the minutes as I was too interested in watching and enjoying the show, but I don't think it mattered. Oh and not like it will matter either but I am gonna shoot on Lance, you took a shot at TNA well here's your recipt Lance Storm may be said to have been past his prime but he never had one. He has settled into Bruno Samartino disease all too easily and frankly it's embarassing. You wre a talented wrestler who never broke out as you could or should have and maybe it has to do with the lack of charisma witch would undoubtabily have lead to TNA not hiring you if that is they knew who you were to begin with. Enjoy the winter in Calgary sincerley yours one of a few million TNA fans who don't care for your crap. Ok, I don't understand the logic of this argument. You criticized TNA, but you know what. You weren't that good of a wrestler anyway, and you're just bitter. What is he bitter about? Someone please explain that to me, because I hear it sometimes when Storm gives the commentaries. He's giving very valid points. Lance Storm was a booker before. Storm has been in the business for a long time, he runs his own wrestling school, he knows what he's talking about. He likely got the numbers from elsewhere, as they were all over the internet. His opinion is very valid, and a lot of it has to do with a few things. People ask him it, people value it, and he does feel that TNA generally has better wrestlers then WWE, but thinks they're all being horribly misused.
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MrBRulzOK
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Dec 15, 2008 0:23:52 GMT -5
In the same vein, if Lance Storm isn't allowed to complain about TNA, someone who indeed has experience in the wrestling business, then the rest of us on this here message board shouldn't be able to either. As for people who actually say they are entertained by the show, wouldn't you be entertained more if matches were longer, weren't interrupted by commercials, and didn't almost always end in some sort of dirty finish, usually involving run ins?
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Post by angryfan on Dec 15, 2008 0:26:31 GMT -5
OK, I don't get the bitterness argument. He was a wrestler, we all know that, but he's also booked a large number of angles and shows when in ECW. By that standard, wouldn't that mean that he actually had more of a right to be critical?
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 15, 2008 0:27:49 GMT -5
To be fair, the Christy/Soujorner match drew the highest ratings on the show, so from that standpoint, it made sense to have that match go longer. Well, in all honestly, there is no way that TNA would know that Hemme/Bolt would be the highest rated thing on the show. Even with a history of good ratings for Knockouts, that just isn't a guarenteed thing. So, they just openly chose to have Hemme/Bolt go longer than Lethal/Sabin because...of whatever reason they had for doing so. Since I wasn't apart of the meeting I have no correct answer and a guess wouldn't add anything. Yes. I did start and end a sentence with the "So" in that last part of my post. I agreed with the mass majority of this, and in essence just wanted to reply to the first part of the post. Also, I enjoy the fact that Daniels is pretty much the only person who gets fired from Feast or Fired. Next year, if he's around I hope he just sits there the whole time going "No way. No how." This post may or may not have been influenced by my tired mind.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 15, 2008 0:28:34 GMT -5
Man I just wtached Impact and I don't think that was right. I didn't count the minutes as I was too interested in watching and enjoying the show, but I don't think it mattered. Oh and not like it will matter either but I am gonna shoot on Lance, you took a shot at TNA well here's your recipt Lance Storm may be said to have been past his prime but he never had one. He has settled into Bruno Samartino disease all too easily and frankly it's embarassing. You wre a talented wrestler who never broke out as you could or should have and maybe it has to do with the lack of charisma witch would undoubtabily have lead to TNA not hiring you if that is they knew who you were to begin with. Enjoy the winter in Calgary sincerley yours one of a few million TNA fans who don't care for your crap. Ok, I don't understand the logic of this argument. You criticized TNA, but you know what. You weren't that good of a wrestler anyway, and you're just bitter. What is he bitter about? Someone please explain that to me, because I hear it sometimes when Storm gives the commentaries. He's giving very valid points. Lance Storm was a booker before. Storm has been in the business for a long time, he runs his own wrestling school, he knows what he's talking about. He likely got the numbers from elsewhere, as they were all over the internet. His opinion is very valid, and a lot of it has to do with a few things. People ask him it, people value it, and he does feel that TNA generally has better wrestlers then WWE, but thinks they're all being horribly misused. I also wonder about the whole "TNA doesn't know who he is" or "Wouldn't hire him because he has no charisma" bits. They did Test an appearance, afterall
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Post by angryfan on Dec 15, 2008 0:33:23 GMT -5
Ok, I don't understand the logic of this argument. You criticized TNA, but you know what. You weren't that good of a wrestler anyway, and you're just bitter. What is he bitter about? Someone please explain that to me, because I hear it sometimes when Storm gives the commentaries. He's giving very valid points. Lance Storm was a booker before. Storm has been in the business for a long time, he runs his own wrestling school, he knows what he's talking about. He likely got the numbers from elsewhere, as they were all over the internet. His opinion is very valid, and a lot of it has to do with a few things. People ask him it, people value it, and he does feel that TNA generally has better wrestlers then WWE, but thinks they're all being horribly misused. I also wonder about the whole "TNA doesn't know who he is" or "Wouldn't hire him because he has no charisma" bits. They did Test an appearance, afterall Don't you understand yet? Unless you have the "charisma" and "drawing power" of Dico Infoerno, TNA is not interested in your opinions on booking matters. Hell, Disco's big brag a while back was that he was part of the booking team in 2000-2001 WCW. Why the hell would anyone admit to that as anything more than an apology?
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Post by Cyno on Dec 15, 2008 0:40:07 GMT -5
And who's to say that Lance Storm even wants or has ever wanted to work for TNA? The guy seems quite happy running his wrestling school and doing the very occasional match here and there. Sure, he was never World Champion, but you don't need to become a world champion to be considered a success in the wrestling business. Unless you don't want to consider great wrestlers like Davey Boy Smith, Curt Hennig, and Owen Hart successes.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 15, 2008 0:40:28 GMT -5
Heres' the thing that gets me with Lance. TNA is something that will not change into the thing that Lance and his ilk will want. TNA is not the serious wrestling with mat classics and serious stuff. Never has been in all the 6-7 years of operation, and never will.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 15, 2008 0:44:37 GMT -5
I think the next time JBL or somebody dismisses Internet criticism by saying something about a nerds living in their mom's basements who've never been in the business, one of us should just point out that we just generally agree with Lance Storm on everything.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 15, 2008 0:46:21 GMT -5
I think the next time JBL or somebody dismisses Internet criticism by saying something about a nerds living in their mom's basements who've never been in the business, one of us should just point out that we just generally agree with Lance Storm on everything. I remember a few times where people have disagreed with a Lance Storm though, both simply and harshly.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 15, 2008 0:47:32 GMT -5
He obviously sees something in the product and definitely in the talent. He wants to see TNA flourish and grow like the rest of us. TNA can and does deliver excellent matches, especially during the PPV's, and if they do something right in his eyes, it's not like he ignores it either. He's entitled to his opinion, whether it be praises or criticisms, just like anyone else.
Besides, it's not like he ONLY does this with TNA. If something in WWE gets on his bad side, he doesn't shy away from criticizing them either. TNA's just an easier target at this point.
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Post by Big L on Dec 15, 2008 0:50:48 GMT -5
we knew it was bound to happen sooner or later
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Post by rawthentic on Dec 15, 2008 0:51:49 GMT -5
And who's to say that Lance Storm even wants or has ever wanted to work for TNA? The guy seems quite happy running his wrestling school and doing the very occasional match here and there. Sure, he was never World Champion, but you don't need to become a world champion to be considered a success in the wrestling business. Unless you don't want to consider great wrestlers like Davey Boy Smith, Curt Hennig, and Owen Hart successes. Curt Hennig was the AWA World Champ wasent he? I know it's defunct, but im sure it meant quite a bit at the time. ADDED: Yes he was. He was AWA World champ for a year. I don't question the titles prestige when the likes of Hulk Hogan, Nick Bockwinkle, Jerry Lawler, Verne Gagne, etc. held it.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 15, 2008 0:55:01 GMT -5
Heres' the thing that gets me with Lance. TNA is something that will not change into the thing that Lance and his ilk will want. TNA is not the serious wrestling with mat classics and serious stuff. Never has been in all the 6-7 years of operation, and never will. The thing is, that's not even true. TNA became a lot more serious when Russo left the first time during the weekly PPV era. They were giving us 3 hours of GOOD wrestling action every week, and they ended up getting big enough for TV. Even during the early days of Impact the company was still pretty serious and seemed to really want to be the number 1 company in North America. They tried to get better Impact ratings but nothing really seemed to work. After a whole bunch of 1.0's it seems like they just decided that they can't do any better and just stopped trying. When I watch TNA now I don't feel like I"m seeing it grow, I feel like I'm seeing it at it's peak and the company is celebrating like it's achieved something, when it really hasn't. To sum up how I feel on TNA, I'll use a specific statistic. TNA has on their roster: Kurt Angle, Sting, Booker T, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Beer Money, MCMG, LAX, a pretty deep roster of X-Division talent, and a great roster of women, yet they somehow manage to underwhelm me every time that I watch. Something seriously needs to be done if the company wants to have a shot at getting any bigger.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 15, 2008 1:14:15 GMT -5
Heres' the thing that gets me with Lance. TNA is something that will not change into the thing that Lance and his ilk will want. TNA is not the serious wrestling with mat classics and serious stuff. Never has been in all the 6-7 years of operation, and never will. The thing is, that's not even true. TNA became a lot more serious when Russo left the first time during the weekly PPV era. They were giving us 3 hours of GOOD wrestling action every week, and they ended up getting big enough for TV. Even during the early days of Impact the company was still pretty serious and seemed to really want to be the number 1 company in North America. They tried to get better Impact ratings but nothing really seemed to work. After a whole bunch of 1.0's it seems like they just decided that they can't do any better and just stopped trying. When I watch TNA now I don't feel like I"m seeing it grow, I feel like I'm seeing it at it's peak and the company is celebrating like it's achieved something, when it really hasn't. To sum up how I feel on TNA, I'll use a specific statistic. TNA has on their roster: Kurt Angle, Sting, Booker T, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Beer Money, MCMG, LAX, a pretty deep roster of X-Division talent, and a great roster of women, yet they somehow manage to underwhelm me every time that I watch. Something seriously needs to be done if the company wants to have a shot at getting any bigger. I don't like how you kinda go "After Russo left,it was all serious and great, and then it died when Russo came back. You had people complimenting about Dusty and his booking, as well as things like Jarrett's reign, Joe's X run, 3LK, and how most of the guys had no personalities. I don't really see a difference from the 2004 era and now. You had your serious and comedy aspect, you had the matches, and you had a bunch of things. TNA has always been some random thing, where you had a lot of aspects change to try to get people's attention. I don't see them not trying, as they wouldn't be doing a lot of the stuff they do if they didn't.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 15, 2008 1:27:27 GMT -5
And who's to say that Lance Storm even wants or has ever wanted to work for TNA? The guy seems quite happy running his wrestling school and doing the very occasional match here and there. Sure, he was never World Champion, but you don't need to become a world champion to be considered a success in the wrestling business. Unless you don't want to consider great wrestlers like Davey Boy Smith, Curt Hennig, and Owen Hart successes. Curt Hennig was the AWA World Champ wasent he? I know it's defunct, but im sure it meant quite a bit at the time. ADDED: Yes he was. He was AWA World champ for a year. I don't question the titles prestige when the likes of Hulk Hogan, Nick Bockwinkle, Jerry Lawler, Verne Gagne, etc. held it. Forgot about the AWA World Championship. My bad. Still, my point stands. There have been a lot of wrestlers that can be considered to have had successful careers without winning The Big One. We can just replace Curt Hennig with say... Scott Hall.
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