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Post by CrazySting on Dec 28, 2008 17:40:56 GMT -5
If you read her biography,she was always quite unstable. Even in WWE,she was known for her ego and erratic behaviour at times. Blaming HHH for her current state is unfair. Stephanie or no Stephanie, HHH and Chyna were probably finished anyway. The only thing I can say, is that he could have tried to be there for her as a friend. LOL she wrote the biography AFTER she lost her job, her man and her house i think that would make anyone unstable- if you watch the triple H and chyna documentry she is VERY VERY sane and triple h looked to be soo in love with her-i blame triple H because he was the catalyst that started her on this path he should have been a man and dealt with it- She also mentions in the book, her and Hunter had a difficult relationship anyway. Before Stephanie was even the picture. Even now people think they were the main reason Chyna had to leave, but it was more to do with her not wanting to wrestle women anymore and wanting to be world champion, which was never going to happen. I agree she's appeared sane in interviews before, but in WWE, she was known for having an ego and having self esteem issues. Triple H could have dealt with their break up better, but cocaine is more to blame for her problems that he is.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 28, 2008 17:43:49 GMT -5
If you read her biography,she was always quite unstable. Even in WWE,she was known for her ego and erratic behaviour at times. Blaming HHH for her current state is unfair. Stephanie or no Stephanie, HHH and Chyna were probably finished anyway. The only thing I can say, is that he could have tried to be there for her as a friend. LOL she wrote the biography AFTER she lost her job, her man and her house i think that would make anyone unstable- if you watch the triple H and chyna documentry (called our time- its on youtube) she is VERY VERY sane and triple h looked to be soo in love with her-i blame triple H because he was the catalyst that started her on this path he should have been a man and dealt with it-IMO one of them at WWE should try and offer her the rehab it may not correct the past but it may help to build the bridge she wrote her biography when she was still with the company, actually....
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 28, 2008 17:46:15 GMT -5
slight update:
According to a reader report sent in to Wrestleview.com, former WWE Diva Chyna was in fact on a combination of prescription pills and alcohol when she was taken to the hospital.
Chyna was said to have been sober for 10 months, however, she ended up back on the wagon and into depression when a prescription she had for post traumatic stress disorder ran out. Chyna was said to have taken a combination of old sleeping pills and a half of a fifth of Grey Goose vodka.
She will remain in the hospital for the time being, reports her agent Mike Esterman, and upon release will enter rehab.
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Post by Supersmark is a Troll on Dec 28, 2008 17:46:50 GMT -5
Yeah, but Stephanie is at worst, a spoiled little rich girl desperate to prove herself to daddy. She's not a suicidal junkie in and out of rehab. She is also on the starting phase of an eating disorder if the NEWZ is correct.
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 17:48:05 GMT -5
LOL she wrote the biography AFTER she lost her job, her man and her house i think that would make anyone unstable- if you watch the triple H and chyna documentry she is VERY VERY sane and triple h looked to be soo in love with her-i blame triple H because he was the catalyst that started her on this path he should have been a man and dealt with it- She also mentions in the book, her and Hunter had a difficult relationship anyway. Before Stephanie was even the picture. Even now people think they were the main reason Chyna had to leave, but it was more to do with her not wanting to wrestle women anymore and wanting to be world champion, which was never going to happen. I agree she's appeared sane in interviews before, but in WWE, she was known for having an ego and having self esteem issues. Triple H could have dealt with their break up better, but cocaine is more to blame for her problems that he is. i havnt read the book so i dont know- i stand corrected i thought the book was written after the break up but i dont think it was- unless you were there to watch her snort the coke up her nose that will be questionable-
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 28, 2008 17:53:27 GMT -5
She's said herself she's a coke addict.
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 17:54:14 GMT -5
slight update: According to a reader report sent in to Wrestleview.com, former WWE Diva Chyna was in fact on a combination of prescription pills and alcohol when she was taken to the hospital. Chyna was said to have been sober for 10 months, however, she ended up back on the wagon and into depression when a prescription she had for post traumatic stress disorder ran out. Chyna was said to have taken a combination of old sleeping pills and a half of a fifth of Grey Goose vodka. She will remain in the hospital for the time being, reports her agent Mike Esterman, and upon release will enter rehab. she looked so good and happy at the wrestler premier in LA
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 17:57:04 GMT -5
She's said herself she's a coke addict. well she was definately a functioning addict because i have met her on a few occasions and she didnt seem to act like an addict...ive always been under the assumption that her drug of choice was alcohol
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 28, 2008 17:57:22 GMT -5
I don't know the whole story behind the HHH/Chyna break-up but from what I do know, HHH could have handled it better. That said, no-one forced her to start taking drugs. I hate it when people blame other people for habits like that (like when everyone blames Bobby Brown for Whitney Houston getting addicted to drugs). Chyna took those drugs herself and can only blame herself for that. And hopefully she'll realise that and like the reports are stating she will check herself into rehab.
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 17:59:52 GMT -5
I don't know the whole story behind the HHH/Chyna break-up but from what I do know, HHH could have handled it better. That said, no-one forced her to start taking drugs. I hate it when people blame other people for habits like that (like when everyone blames Bobby Brown for Whitney Houston getting addicted to drugs). Chyna took those drugs herself and can only blame herself for that. And hopefully she'll realise that and like the reports are stating she will check herself into rehab. whitney was a druggie way before she met bobby her publicist and record label were good at keeping her image clean i watched the episode where she had a one one with dr drew and he was trying to ask her what started her downward spiral she hinted that it was the triple h thing but i guess she didnt want to say his name
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 28, 2008 18:16:35 GMT -5
I hope and pray that Chyna (Joanie laurer) can make a full recovery and continue the path that she was already on.
First, HHH could be on the phone with Chyne right now helping her emotionally and none of us would know about it. Remember, we only know what's reported, and half of it could be fake.
Now, I've read Chyna's book, and frankly, I think there are a few things that she may have lied about that she has to face looking in the mirror every day that might contribute to her depression. However, I believe that many things she talks about in her book are justified. I have no problem with bashing people in books, as long as it's justified. It just turns out that of all the bashing that goes on in other wrestler's books, that Chyna's in the most justified, even though she has the most bashing. If the things that she says about her loved ones are true, then they deserve to be bashed in front of the world. We don't know how true they are.
Also, She wrote her book while she was with WWE in 200-2001. JR shilled it the whole time, they made commercials, she hyped it up on talk shows, they showed the hyping on talk shows on WWE, everything. Ok, so that's enough about the book.
Now, the suicide. What people have to understand about suicide is this: No matter how crazy you are, you are not in your normal state of mind at the moment of suicide, if you were, you'd be attempting suicide every day. So, yes, suicide is selfish, but that dosen't mean that the person was selfish, because selfish, wasn't necessarily their normal thinking. More often than not, if a person survives a suicide attempt, they look back the next day and say "what was I thinking?" It could go against every single principal that they ever stood for in all of their life. The problem was, was that there principals and what they stood for and what they were about wasn't with them during that time.
Suicide happens right when you hit that lowest moment of rock bottom, and it dosen't last long, there's no where you can go but up. It's all about making it through that one desperate hour.
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Post by metylerca on Dec 28, 2008 18:25:54 GMT -5
Ok, can we please leave wrestling out of this?
So she's a wrestling personality and she tries suicide.
I'm sure she has HER OWN LIFE outside of WWE and what dirtsheets say.
I'm sure there were problems in her life outside of HHH.
That was years ago and it's ludicrous to say that HHH is responsible for it. And I doubt HHH just got with Stephanie to get pushed.
Why the hell does it have to be about wrestling? I mean, honestly. Why can't they be seen as normal people, like they are? Why does everything people do have to pertain to how we see them on TV?
I'm sure if Stephanie knew that HHH only used her to get to the top, they would get divorced, and immediately he'd be fired.
Some people take their HHH hate too far.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 28, 2008 18:42:44 GMT -5
I'm sure if Stephanie knew that HHH only used her to get to the top, they would get divorced, and immediately he'd be fired. Some people take their HHH hate too far. Eh, I've read some things that would indicate Stephanie sees it as a marriage of convenience as well, to an extent. She clearly has an advantage and more power than Shane because she's with a main eventer. People used to think it would be Shane running the company after Vince, but now its more likely to be Stephanie. And HHH is part of why that is. A lot of people either say 'well, Triple H and Stephanie are only together because they love each other' or 'he's only with her for the money and power.' I think its both really: they probably do have genuine feelings for each other, but both are aware of how much more convenient it is for them to be together.
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 18:46:49 GMT -5
nobody is "hating" on triple h- i really dislike that word used when you are mearly expressing an opinion- triple H and Lita were two cowards regardless of how you look at it, the didnt have the ovaries and sac to end their relationships so they cheated
if someone has a trauma and they do not deal with it it goes on to affect the rest of their lives, and i think this is the case for chyna she had alot of issues growing up maybe thought she found salvation in triple H and he let her down and so begins the downward spiral
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 18:49:50 GMT -5
I'm sure if Stephanie knew that HHH only used her to get to the top, they would get divorced, and immediately he'd be fired. Some people take their HHH hate too far. Eh, I've read some things that would indicate Stephanie sees it as a marriage of convenience as well, to an extent. She clearly has an advantage and more power than Shane because she's with a main eventer. People used to think it would be Shane running the company after Vince, but now its more likely to be Stephanie. And HHH is part of why that is. A lot of people either say 'well, Triple H and Stephanie are only together because they love each other' or 'he's only with her for the money and power.' I think its both really: they probably do have genuine feelings for each other, but both are aware of how much more convenient it is for them to be together. this is what i tried to say earlier- believe me when i say if steph didnt take triple H's bait they wouldnt be married today,he took a chance which could have cost him his job and it is now benefitting him...do i think he loves her now? yes but i dont think that was the foundation that got them together in the first place
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 28, 2008 20:36:03 GMT -5
Dr. drew is EPIC FAIL, for these people.... didn't the drummer for GnR's just get rearrested a few weeks ago, but then again, I guess there is no helping people that truly don't want to get cleaned up, I hope things get better for her and can find some kind of peace. Dr. Drew would even say that rehab only works if the rehabee puts effort into it. The assclown from Crazy Town was supposedly doing well, but Wikipedia sez he's relapsed. Three of Celebrity Rehab's first season participants have purportedly kept their noses clean (Jaimee Foxworth, Brigitte Nielsen and Ricco Rodriguez), so I'm sure they wouldn't call him EPIC FAIL. I'd still do unspeakable and (at least in rehab) forbidden things with Nikki McKibbin, though.
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Post by blef on Dec 28, 2008 20:43:11 GMT -5
She will remain in the hospital for the time being, reports her agent Mike Esterman, and upon release will enter rehab. So she'll be on season 3 of Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, I take it.....
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Post by Snitsky on Dec 28, 2008 22:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by sloride on Dec 29, 2008 6:20:47 GMT -5
I think its very unfair to blame HHH for her problems. Yes, he should not have cheated and should have ended the relationship instead of seeing Steph at the same time, but Chyna has said multiple times about the rough childhood she had, constantly abused and was even raped. Any psychologist will tell you that would have had a detrimental affect on her life and that will have more to do with her current problems than her boyfriend cheating on her.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 29, 2008 6:30:19 GMT -5
How can any of us possibly know what the motivations and feelings behind the relationship between the people Stephanie McMahon and Paul Levesque? They aren't Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley, Daddy's power hungry spoiled little girl and Triple H, former blueblood degenerate with a vicious streak when the lights go down, nor is Chyna a Xena-esque Amazonian who takes on men.
To accuse 2 people we don't know outside of extremely exaggerated television personas, who we only hear extremely negative things about through dirt sheets and interviews with ex-employees who often have an axe to grind of being that calculated and heinous is just off. Maybe Triple H and Stephanie fell in love, and Triple H didn't know how best to end it with Chyna. Maybe he is a snivelling wimp who couldn't bring himself to say it. Only those 3 know at the end of the day.
How many people speak to their ex after a bitter split? How many of us have hit a slightly destructive pattern after we've been hurt?
We're discussing human beings here, mistakes have been made on all sides I'm sure and placing blame helps nobody, particuarly when it is so ill-informed.
What IS important is that Chyna gets the help she so sorely needs now, and sticks to her rehab. Maybe after that time she will come to terms with her problem and things may mellow between the 3 involved, opening the way for a few appearances organised under the WWE banner.
My prayers are win Joanie Laurer the person.
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