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Post by The Immoral One on Dec 27, 2008 3:46:32 GMT -5
To me by far is Roxxi. She has to be one the worst characters I have seen in wrestling. What is her gimmick, that she loves to curse? Her cursing is offensive, moronic, and seems forced. I get the vibe from watching her that she seems very uncomfortable doing this gimmick. Am I the only one who HATES this gimmick? Or am I getting old and this is what the kids like now... that she is "hip" and "edgy"?
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Post by King of Fighters on Dec 27, 2008 3:48:45 GMT -5
No your not to old. What they've done with Roxxi, to me has been one of the biggest screwups. They've basically turned her into ODB lite. I prefered the Voodoo Queen gimic so much over this.
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Post by The Immoral One on Dec 27, 2008 3:55:42 GMT -5
No your not to old. What they've done with Roxxi, to me has been one of the biggest screwups. They've basically turned her into ODB lite. I prefered the Voodoo Queen gimic so much over this. Me too and the Vodoo Queen gimmick was basically nothing but her doing weird shakes. To me she seems rather void of charisma. ODB is a natural entertainer, I dont get that vibe from Roxxi. I just get this feeling of "uncomfortableness" from Roxxi.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 4:00:08 GMT -5
Palin has to be up there.
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Post by The Immoral One on Dec 27, 2008 4:03:39 GMT -5
Palin has to be up there. You know what... after seeing that backstage Santa segment with the Knockouts, that whole division is now Wrestlecrap. Taylor Wilde no acts like a fool too. It seems like every gimmick of the face knockouts is that they are totally "out of control" and love to curse and make crude jokes.
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Post by rawthentic on Dec 27, 2008 4:03:42 GMT -5
I would say BP/Palin. The impersonaton is not good and BP have looked like the dumbest people in the world for thinking it's really her. I never got the vibe from the BP that they were dumb blondes, when they first came about, i thought they were manipulative and fairly clever tandem. After being jobbed out to the knockout division which seems like all year, getting tagged with Kip and now this, they are a complete joke and pretty much buried in my eyes.
Roxxi and her cursing gimmick is annoying, mostly because it doesent suit her at all and you can tell she's only doing it to be edgy. It would suit ODB far more. Roxxi was good as a sweetheart who was hardcore, not some ignorant hag who can't beat Kong. I don't think it's wrestlecrap though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 4:14:39 GMT -5
The Palin thing bugged me because, dubious impression aside, it served no purpose. The BP don't look extra-heely after it, they don't gain any face pops, little mentioned was made of it from others, and it didn't advance any story lines. All it did was produce a bunch of lame Alaskan jokes. At least do it in front of the audience in order to get boos. Why not have one of BP adopt the psuedo-Palin's mannerisms and dress? Why not have a Shark Boy or a Sonjay Dutt interact with her. Something.
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Post by Single H on Dec 27, 2008 4:21:04 GMT -5
To me the biggest piece of Wrestlecrap in TNA is the commentary team of Tenay and West. Honestly they are the worst commentary team I have ever heard in my life and a massive downfall of TNA. Wests constant over reacting and voice is just embarrassing and Tenay adds nothing to help the commentary. I would rather listen to a commentary team of McMahon and Mongo than these two idiots!. I like to sometimes listen to the commentary while doing other things but there just cringe worthy. They are both so bad on commentary they make Vince look like Bobby Heanan in comparison. It is without a doubt the biggest downfall of TNA and why I can never get through a full show. The in ring product is decent but spoiled by a god awful commentary team.
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Post by y2jfan on Dec 27, 2008 4:31:04 GMT -5
Barbed wire Christmas tree match, Palin, Thanksgiving special...you can't really choose just ONE WC= Impact in general
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Dec 27, 2008 5:54:12 GMT -5
Definately the Palin thing. It was o.k. at first but seriously everybody and his mom knows TNA cribbed the gag off Saturday Night Live long after even Tina Fey herself got tired of it.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 27, 2008 9:48:15 GMT -5
The company as a whole?
I keed! I keed!
I definitely agree with Palin, Tenay/West, and the Barb-wire Christmas Tree match (but RD already tackled that one). But in my eyes, it's Suicide. The buildup was pretty clever. And then a bright red Power Ranger drops into the ring much to the delight of...no one in particular.
Seriously, WTF?
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 27, 2008 10:36:20 GMT -5
The company as a whole? I keed! I keed! I definitely agree with Palin, Tenay/West, and the Barb-wire Christmas Tree match (but RD already tackled that one). But in my eyes, it's Suicide. The buildup was pretty clever. And then a bright red Power Ranger drops into the ring much to the delight of...no one in particular. Seriously, WTF? So, he's like a post-modern Gooker?
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 27, 2008 12:22:04 GMT -5
Wrestlecrap in the company today:
- The Sarah Palin/Beautiful People stuff - Suicide - I want to say "Anytime Tenay and West open their mouths," but that's more "plain bad" than "Wrestlecrap." Wrestlecrap has its own feeling that sets it apart from just being awful, IMO. - ODB and Roxxi's characters
As for all time worst Wrestlecrap? Yes, the Barbed Wire Christmas Tree match was just plain stupid and horrible. But I think it takes second place to the Johnsons. You can't beat giant wrestling penises. You just can't.
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Post by toodarkmark on Dec 27, 2008 14:36:45 GMT -5
I disagree about Roxxi and ODB. But it plays into a bigger problem in TNA. Every single wrestler is SOOOO much better when they're themselves. ROxxi isn't a curser, Taylor isnt "wild". Just let them be themselves. I feel that in Joe and AJ promos. Just let Joe and AJ be themselves. Help them out, but wrestlers always come off better in promos when they're natural.
But the worst stuff? Suicide and Palin. Just awful. Is Suicide for children? Or video game nerds? SUicide is a horrible name for a kid's character and video game fans will find it corney. This is 50 year old guys being out of touch. And who does the Palin stuff entertain? Casual fans? All they think is "Wow pro wrestling is stupid bwa ha." How does that build the company? All that's doing is burying the Beautiful People. Just makes no sense.
DOn West continues to be the worst part of the production aspect. Tenay used to be amazing, and it's the scripts bringing him down. He's won Commentator of Year like 5 times in Wrestling Observer. IT's not like he got brain damage. He's bogged down by West and the scripts. Let him do his own commentary and put a Raven with him. Or anyone. West needs to go.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Dec 28, 2008 11:09:28 GMT -5
Everything
Saw a re-run of Impact yesterday and every single thing screamed "GOOKER!!!"
From ODB's shenanigans all the way to watching a graying Kevin Nash and near-geriatric Scott Steiner get the upper hand on the Front Line.
If TNA's goal was to emulate WCW 2000, they just accomplished that and a bit more.
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Post by bob on Dec 28, 2008 11:18:38 GMT -5
ODB taking a dump, The Turkey Bowl, Sarah Palin
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 29, 2008 0:40:17 GMT -5
Dutt/Val/Lethal love triangle. STILL the biggest piece of garbage to this day. All it did was make Jay look like a chump and Val look like a bitch, which is a shame, because at the time, the two of them were crazy over!
Also, the Guru gimmick is pretty awful, too. What was wrong with Dutt being the Playa from the Himalayas? Just a lazy gimmick.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2008 1:41:20 GMT -5
Palin has to be up there. You know what... after seeing that backstage Santa segment with the Knockouts, that whole division is now Wrestlecrap. Taylor Wilde no acts like a fool too. It seems like every gimmick of the face knockouts is that they are totally "out of control" and love to curse and make crude jokes. The fact the Knockouts used to be the place to see women's wrestling, and now WWE's women's wrestling is better, is both a testament to how much WWE has improved and a testament to how much TNA has slipped in this area.
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Post by thesam07 on Dec 29, 2008 8:49:41 GMT -5
The Robert Roode/Eric Young feud of 2007.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Dec 29, 2008 15:34:38 GMT -5
Speaking of Roxxi, anyone notice that she seems to have had some recent enhancements?
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