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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 18, 2009 18:37:59 GMT -5
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Last paragraph of mine that I just wrote: Edit: Overall, I count your latest POST a positive . . .
(didn't mean to say "point")
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Nov 18, 2009 18:45:25 GMT -5
There are still some lurkers, Curt Hawkins, Jonathan Michaels etc. Also oblivionsorceress and deadpool haven't checked in all that much I believe.
It's kanefusing not knowing if the deadline will be extended, makes me re-think my vote. I've already switched it once from tfmcmg, I was the only one voting for him at it looked like that wasn't going to change so I switched it to Sweet who seemed a tad scummy. I'm still not sure about Jagilki, I'm still not sure about Sweet, but sweet is talking, so bandwagoning on him achieved something atleast, Jag on the other hand is not.
Like I said earlier, i'm not one to nail my vote down, it changes with my gut feeling. At least this early in the game when information is slim.
blah, i guess I'll sit around and wait for some sort of revelation.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 18, 2009 18:50:50 GMT -5
I just think a lynch helps the town more than a non-lynch, so I looked at who was on the chopping block and went with the one that looked the most promising. I thought the case on ritt was ridiculous, the case on jag was weak (as it all seems to lead back to that contradiction in his questionaire answers), and my case on latino didn't look to have much outside support, so that pretty much just left Sweet, hence my vote for him. In short, he was the lesser of 4 evils.
And... I'll throw in another vote for More Time.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Nov 18, 2009 18:58:18 GMT -5
Well, it seems as though I was wrong.
Reading over what Pegasus had to say on Sweet, it's a very strong case with credibility rather than just simply voting for the guy. Things that I think were overlooked by some of us were brought to the forefront with the massive post, and now I'm rethinking my stance on Sweet.
If we do get more time, then that's great and I get to make a more informed decision. If not, I'll have to Vote: Sweet 'N Sour based on what was brought up recently.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 18, 2009 19:03:14 GMT -5
1. I said it wasnt much to go on with Jag, but all I had... and was only a suspect list at the time... if that's badwagonning, then I guess i'm misinterpreting the term. I just don't see this point the same way you do. Agree to disagree here, I guess. I just don't think you can call "bandwagon" when people make a vote for you based on "not much to go on" just the same as you did with jagilki, even though you say that *wasn't" bandwagoning when you did it. You just can't have it both ways. What you did was exactly what I did, EXCEPT in your case with jagilki, you were several posts behind on joining up the suspicion wagon against jagilki. I was already leaning your direction, as I stated . This is the only part i want to comment on at this time. I didnt vote Jag during that post, just listed him as a suspect. My vote came much later and more of a defensive effot to keep myself from being lynched. I am glad to hear that we're not just talking circles... even if you still do suspect me, at least you are hearing me on the various points.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 18, 2009 19:56:29 GMT -5
I just am not feeling the case for Sweet. I see the points being raised but those very same points apply even more so I think to about four or so other posters. However I do like how you have drawn him into the discussion. With that said I will take my own shot in the dark, and hopefully we will get more time and we will hear more from some folks.
Vote Scruffy
You came on long enough to defend yourself and then were out again. It could have been either you or tfmcmg but you drew short straw, not that I think you are going to steal any of Jag or Sweet's votes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2009 20:15:52 GMT -5
I just am not feeling the case for Sweet. I see the points being raised but those very same points apply even more so I think to about four or so other posters. However I do like how you have drawn him into the discussion. With that said I will take my own shot in the dark, and hopefully we will get more time and we will hear more from some folks. Vote ScruffyYou came on long enough to defend yourself and then were out again. It could have been either you or tfmcmg but you drew short straw, not that I think you are going to steal any of Jag or Sweet's votes. the reason i was out was that i wasn't able to get on the computer too often last night but i understand that because i jumped up and suggested an odd point that it would raise a flag... if i was a mafia i wouldn't be playing it like i am. i wouldn't have gone out of my way to make a comment that would've made me somewhat of a target. oh and Pegasus... you alluded to this earlier but i'm kinda new at these things... whats a cop/investigator? when i played IRL all we really had were doctor, detective (probably the same thing as investigator) and mafia themselves... i already know this game is different from the mentions about different powers but would it be possible to get a list of what powers could be or are in the game? (maybe this question is more suited towards the GM) also i agree with Ritt on one thing... I don't think its Sweet... there are a few people who i believe are just coasting along right now and since it worked so well on Sweet i'm going to agree with Ritt and go for a shot in the dark type of vote... Vote Deadpoolbecause the few posts you have made haven't really forwarded the game at all and i'd really like to actually hear your opinions... as with most others my vote is not 100% certain and could change
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Post by jagilki on Nov 18, 2009 20:20:26 GMT -5
Ok, I've only been able to skim.
I'm done hunting. Was done Sunday morning.
However, at the same time, Thanksgiving is the busy season for the Manager of a Meat dept. in a Grocery store. No excuse for inactivity on the game, just been a little more active at work and bone tired the last few days.
I saw somebody ask me who my suspects are. Honestly at the moment I can't really say... mostly because EVERYBODY is suspect. I've played this game enought to know that the roles are random.
The reason I enjoy playing games like this one here, is that they aren't with my usual crew. They aren't with the gang of people that I've grown to be able to read within the first post or two.
Plus you guys seem to have a completely different play style. You're in for longer post throwing around more quotes and reading between the lines a lot more.
Nothing wrong with all that, just new.
As for the votes on me. Like I've already said. I'm NOT going to fight it. I'm town. I'm far more comfortable with being lynched hand having my town-ness vindicated via showing up town in the write up... AND then having the surviving members of the town be able to approach day TWO with that knowledge in their head as they look back at day ONE.
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Post by crudulak on Nov 18, 2009 21:42:13 GMT -5
I was wondering if I could get everybody to post what they think about the two top vote-getters? I'd especially like to hear from those that haven't posted much. I'll start:
jag: Had an overreaction to a small attack, then was all over the map in subsequent posts. MIA for awhile. A reasonable vote, although not an incredibly strong case. Quit playing with your meat and jump in already!
Sweet n' Sour: Some fellow players felt that he fit their criteria for the "active lurker" style that many mafia employ. I agree somewhat, and I also think that he didn't do anything pro-town until he was drawn out to post more. I think a lot of what pegasuswarrior said was reasonable, and also some of it was a bit paranoid even by my standards. pegasus has dropped significantly down on my list of scum, but I'd like to hear more from Sweet n' Sour before I decide whether or not I could vote for him.
Just in case we do get extra time, d'yall wanna play the District's fastest growing forums-based game-within-a-game: Who is Your Ultra Secret Mega Scum Crush?
My Dream Date to the Day One Rope Dance is Gunslinger. At first, you seemed pro-town because you were trying to get conversation going. But since then your posting frequency has dropped dramatically, only popping in to ask us all to post more, and to agree with other players. You're so agreeable that you're pro-bandwagon, and your opinion seems to generally follow trends set by someone else. Even when you took action by voting for tfmcmg, you did so because of an FoS on tfmcmg by Jazzman. You then seemed to forget about your vote and stayed out of the discussion between tfmcmg and ritt. You abruptly switched your vote to Sweet n' Sour, while still sounding noncommittal. After your vote, you ask Sweet some questions, which he answers but you never acknowledge it. Instead, it seemed like you were playing both sides when you agreed with what Sweet said about pegasus. Now you're being noncommittal again, conveniently after it's been suggested by others that the bandwagon for Sweet seems scummy.
Here's why I went through all your posts: You are very noncommittal, and you seem to preempt arguments about how you're playing by continually stating that you're paranoid and going with your gut.
Unvote Vote: Gunslinger
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 18, 2009 22:05:06 GMT -5
crud, I would be happy to. But from what I can tell, i've answered all the questions about me that have been brought up, unless I missed something, and would be just re-iterating the same things again.
If you have something specific you would like me to answer to, I will.
I'm still hoping this gets pushed out to friday, so that we have more time to discuss. My 'over defensiveness' earlier was probably more in part that all this came about on the last day before the original deadline. My defense would have been more spread out and not so "frantic/jumpy' had I been given more time to do so, but i wasn't(and am still not) guaranteed those extra couple days.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 18, 2009 22:08:50 GMT -5
I just am not feeling the case for Sweet. I see the points being raised but those very same points apply even more so I think to about four or so other posters. However I do like how you have drawn him into the discussion. With that said I will take my own shot in the dark, and hopefully we will get more time and we will hear more from some folks. Vote ScruffyYou came on long enough to defend yourself and then were out again. It could have been either you or tfmcmg but you drew short straw, not that I think you are going to steal any of Jag or Sweet's votes. the reason i was out was that i wasn't able to get on the computer too often last night but i understand that because i jumped up and suggested an odd point that it would raise a flag... if i was a mafia i wouldn't be playing it like i am. i wouldn't have gone out of my way to make a comment that would've made me somewhat of a target. oh and Pegasus... you alluded to this earlier but i'm kinda new at these things... whats a cop/investigator? when i played IRL all we really had were doctor, detective (probably the same thing as investigator) and mafia themselves... i already know this game is different from the mentions about different powers but would it be possible to get a list of what powers could be or are in the game? (maybe this question is more suited towards the GM) also i agree with Ritt on one thing... I don't think its Sweet... there are a few people who i believe are just coasting along right now and since it worked so well on Sweet i'm going to agree with Ritt and go for a shot in the dark type of vote... Vote Deadpoolbecause the few posts you have made haven't really forwarded the game at all and i'd really like to actually hear your opinions... as with most others my vote is not 100% certain and could change The cop/investigator is probably the same thing as the detective. Each night phase, he/she gives a name to the Mod and the Mod tells the investigator if that person is Mafia, Town, or otherwise. And don't count on the Mod giving us a list of what roles are being used in this game. That's part of the mystery: not knowing what all is at play.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 22:14:16 GMT -5
By Popular Demand, the deadline will be extended to Friday, November 20th, 11:00 PM HST.
Also, Tribute: Curt Hawkins Fan has informed me of personal reasons, causing him to drop out of the game. If anyone can recruit someone else to come join the game, anyone, I would be very grateful. We are now down one tribute, with no replacements.
Also, Tea and Crumpets has informed me of Computer problems causing him to be inactive for a few days, hopefully he'll be able to come back soon, and not drop out as well, other wise we'll be down two people.
I'm also having a busy week, so the vote tally will be up later tonight.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 18, 2009 22:18:06 GMT -5
Worst comes to worst, whoever we lynch today (if we manage to do so) could replace Curt tomorrow. That, or whoever gets offed by the Mafia tonight (assuming our protection roles aren't extremely lucky).
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Post by crudulak on Nov 18, 2009 22:53:36 GMT -5
My guess is that Brother Midnight and Big Daddy Caddy caught up with CHF and T&C and are suing them for copyright infringement.
Sweet n' Sour: I can't make up my mind about you, probably because you only recently started posting more. The only questions I have for you right now are the ones I asked everybody.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 19, 2009 0:25:01 GMT -5
It has been a few pages since I said anything. I apologize for that. Seems I need to do some reading. Okay so it seems that Sweet n'Sour is someone of interest so I'll give my thoughts on him. So this all started because of his vote count? I know talking is important but sometimes things come up. I mean I haven't posted in a bit but that's not because I'm mafia. But then again this is Day 1 and we don't have much to go on and it seems your doing it to provoke discussion so I guess it's alright if it's for that purpose. But if you keep your vote for that purpose then I am not quite sure I agree with you considering he is no longer an in between lurker and active player. I'd say he's pretty active now. But I've been reading his posts and i have to say he seems rather...annoyed, perhaps might work. Which seems to me like that would only be the reaction of an innocent townie. I could see that as being my reaction anyway. I am not quite convinced that he is mafia. I should read the posts over more carefully to see if there's any more specific reasons why he is being voted for. But based off him defending himself; he seems like a townie to me. Interesting that crudulak brought up Gunslinger; I was looking at him myself. No, not because he mentioned that I had been inactive for a while. I have no problem with that; I was thinking of the last time I posted this morning anyway. But what got to me is that he voted for Sweet n 'Sour but gave no reason. That seemed pretty scummy to me. Then as crudulak pointed out; Gunslinger asked Sour a bunch of questions then didn't say or doing anything with that information (as far as we could tell). I don't know...that just doesn't make sense to me. I feel like you just jumped on the bandwagon and threw the questions out there to see how you should act in the eyes of others. I mean look at these questions: Yes like I said, I'm not 100 on you being mafia Sweet, my vote may change again before lynch,but you are talking now, thus putting some pressure on you will hopefully keep you talking, jagilki on the other hand is allegedly gone hunting so we get a whole lotta nothing out of him. So if you wouldn't mind some questions? 1. If you were Mafia now, how would you play? 2.If you were town now, how would you play? It's possible that you are asking them to try and make yourself look town when your actually mafia. Vote: GunslingerThis can change if there are other more plausible theories. Like most votes this isn't 100%.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 19, 2009 1:40:52 GMT -5
Sweet n' Sour: I can't make up my mind about you, probably because you only recently started posting more. The only questions I have for you right now are the ones I asked everybody. Trying to recall these... Who's my top suspects? Currently... Gunslinger Pegasus Jagilki in that order. I would shift my vote over to gunslinger, but cant afford to at this moment. It really caught my attention when he basically switched his vote with little reasoning... then later hinted to the fact that it was a bandwaggon vote to try to get me to respond... in which I had already done 4 hours prior. Maybe trying to help a fellow mafia member not get lynched? Maybe to cause some more dissension and quickly jumped on this new train? Or he could be town, and even though I've answered his questions with no further responses/inquiries from him...and mentioning twice that I was giving him more information than Jag was giving/going to give... he still maintains his vote for me. As for pegasus, he's on there soley cause i believe either he or gunslinger are mafia... but i dont think they both are. If my suspicions are right, he will be removed from this list as fast as he was put on it.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Nov 19, 2009 8:20:12 GMT -5
I'm working hence me not posting as much.
I don't think my switching from tfmcmg was with little reasoning, there was no way he was going to get lynched, everyone else was on the jagilki/sweet wagon then i believe, that or not voting at all. So I switched it in an effort to achieve a lynch. I switched it to Sweet cause he had just started talking and I wanted him to continue doing that.
I'm not playing both sides, I saw the point Sweet was trying to make about pegasus, and I saw the point pegasus was trying to make about sweet. That's it. I'm keeping my vote where it is for now to try and achieve a first day lynch, as I'm not for a no-lynch, as it doesn't further the game at all IMO, sure we might hit a town and hurt ourselves, but ultimately winning the game > losing town. I still want to lynch tfmcmg, but that's not happening this time around either.
I don't think the bandwagon on Sweet is scummy. Not anymore than the wagon that's started on me now anyway. If anything I'd say that the very early jagilki "i have a passing understanding of the game" was perhaps not scummy but a very weak reasoning for voting. I'll admit I had my suspicions about jag too, and still do, although I still find Sweet perhaps not overly, defensive but strongly defensive behavior odd.
not as much as tfmcmg's odd idea of adding to a discussion, but like i've said several times now, there seems to be no interest in the rest of the town to lynch him so me voting for him would be a chocolate kettle. If anything i'd say tfmcmg is my number 1 suspect. or atleast he's the player that bugs me the most.
My suspicions of jagilki have changed during the game, sure I'm not trusting anyone at this point, but I was sucked in by early paranoia about jag, and while I'm not sure about him, my suspicions have simmered way down.
This is day one, being noncommital isn't being scummy, UNLESs there is some SOLID evidence, and there's none here.
my list of susps: Sweet tfmcmg Jagilki
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Nov 19, 2009 9:05:35 GMT -5
*Message from GM: Curt Hawkins Fan has PM'd me his vote, in case we aren't able to find him a replacement, before the lynch. He will still be dropping out, unfortunately. If we don't find a replacement on time, a tribute lynched or night killed will take his place.
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Official Vote Count:
Jagiliki - 5 (Jazzman, Jonathan Michaels, Al Bundy, Deadpool, Sweet N' Sour) Ritt - 1 (Simply Tea and Crumpets) Latino Meat - 1 (Ravishing One) Sweet n' Sour - 5 (Latino Meat, Pegasus Warrior, Gunslinger, Mr. Emoticon Man, Michael Hayden) Scruffy - 1 (Ritt) Deadpool - 1 (Scruffy) Gunslinger - 3 (Crudulak, Oblivion Sorceress, Curt Hawkins Fan)
Tributes not voting: Jagiliki D-lirious-2 Tfmcmg
With 20 alive it will take 11 votes to lynch.
Deadline will be Friday, November 20th, 11:00 PM HST.
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Curt's vote post will be made public for the game, out of fairness.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 19, 2009 9:29:15 GMT -5
Why do people keep bringing up 'no lynch'? We haven't had a single vote for it and no one is even talking about actually voting for it. Just feels like filler comments to make the post appear more involved.
Also, gunslinger... I only had two votes on me at the time you voted... bandwaggon wasn't even brought up until after you changed your vote.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Nov 19, 2009 9:38:07 GMT -5
EBWOP - skimming back thru the last few days... it appears the gunslinger was the only one talking about the no lynch.
Gun, you do know that the majority vote getter is still lynched right? We don't HAVE to get to 11 votes, just if we get to 11 votes before the deadline we can go ahead and progress to the next phase of the day.
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