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Post by Greer on Oct 6, 2009 8:31:02 GMT -5
Is it really the best move to have the most dominant tag team in your company lose in the middle of the ring to DX? Is it even the best move to have this match on Raw and not wait until a ppv with some good build up? I know this is WWE and thay are awful at booking logically and blah blah blah, but come on. These guys have a ton of momentum on their side and are the team to beat, while steam-rolling the competition but the DX team that was in the "most grueling match ever!" last night goes over on a healthy Jerishow team on Raw main event?
Logic?
Then again, Legacy should have gone over on the PPV but didn't, so what's logic but a five letter word anyway right?
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Post by mainsupreme on Oct 6, 2009 8:37:47 GMT -5
it's very dumb. They even destroyed them on the mic and during the segment.
It's the old HHH/Jericho thing
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 6, 2009 8:39:50 GMT -5
Is it really the best move to have the most dominant tag team in your company lose in the middle of the ring to DX? Is it even the best move to have this match on Raw and not wait until a ppv with some good build up? I know this is WWE and thay are awful at booking logically and blah blah blah, but come on. These guys have a ton of momentum on their side and are the team to beat, while steam-rolling the competition but the DX team that was in the "most grueling match ever!" last night goes over on a healthy Jerishow team on Raw main event? Logic? Then again, Legacy should have gone over on the PPV but didn't, so what's logic but a five letter word anyway right? I don't know if Legacy should've gone over. I mean, they looked great in defeat and were already put over as a threat in the previous match ups. There was no way that DX was going to lose two straight matches to them. |
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Post by Greer on Oct 6, 2009 8:58:18 GMT -5
I see what you mean, but DX could lose as many matches as they want and still be over. I would just like to see them take a chance on something and go out of the norm. Just push that button one time and see what happens.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 6, 2009 9:29:12 GMT -5
Legacy shouldn't have gone over. They were made to look strong. That is enough.
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Post by Greer on Oct 6, 2009 9:34:04 GMT -5
My only thing is...what is the harm in Legacy going over? It makes them a big time team and it does not harm the status of DX. It just seems like giving them that victory would elevate them even higher than just looking stong as the losers.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Oct 6, 2009 9:34:33 GMT -5
Didn't Jerishow control the match pretty much the whole time?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 6, 2009 9:39:19 GMT -5
Didn't Big Show control the match pretty much the whole time? Fixed for truth. |
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Oct 6, 2009 9:39:23 GMT -5
WWE is the biggest wrestling company in the world. They understood how to 'book logically' better than any of us.
This was fine. Jericho was going to run and cause a DQ, a perfectly heelish thing to do, but got stopped by a bunch of massive guys and was outnumbered. They lost to set up a title match most probably, which is why they had that match last night instead of building it up.
As for being owned on the mic? Please. It's face vs heels for god sake. If HHH getting a joke about Jericho's hair in is now called a burial, we really need to look at the definition of the word again, because it's getting way over used.
Legacy also should not have won. For one, it was a feud ender, and the faces traditionally win those. Legacy looked awesome in defeat, and they already had a star making victory. And yes, there is a problem having your legends lose too much. It's not enough to say they will still get a reaction from the crowd, yes they will. The point is though that it still needs to be special when they lose, and if you have them lose too much, any rub that should be gained, isn't. Not to mention you have to keep the hierarchy in the roster. If DX are now going for the tag titles they should be higher up than Legacy, who aren't.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Oct 6, 2009 9:44:45 GMT -5
Didn't Big Show control the match pretty much the whole time? Fixed for truth. No, they both controlled their share of the match, Jericho getting the better of HBK and Show getting the better of Triple H, up until the finish. |
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Oct 6, 2009 9:45:40 GMT -5
I've never understood this obsession with Jericho HAVING to get a pin or look better than Triple H. I also don't understand the problem with establishing that one guy is just plain superior to another.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Oct 6, 2009 9:49:35 GMT -5
I see what you mean, but DX could lose as many matches as they want and still be over. I would just like to see them take a chance on something and go out of the norm. Just push that button one time and see what happens. Agreed, but I think the WWE's way of thinkng is "Gee, the Big Show could lose as many matches as we want and he'll still be over because he's huge." I think if Edge is still Jericho's partner, then maybe they get the win. |
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Post by Greer on Oct 6, 2009 9:54:33 GMT -5
I'm not saying they have to go around losing every match but all I am saying is take a risk. It's called a risk for a reason. Yes faces TRADITIONALLY win the feud enders...but lets take a risk here and have Legacy go over and deliver that shocking victory. DX's credibility will not be ruined since Legacy is being built as this up and coming hungry tag team.
Isn't predictability the thing hurting wrestling and most notably WWE right now? I don't see whats wrong with shaking things up for once.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 6, 2009 9:57:39 GMT -5
No, they both controlled their share of the match, Jericho getting the better of HBK and Show getting the better of Triple H, up until the finish. In the match I saw, Jericho was getting beaten by both Triple H and HBK, getting a couple of minor moves in, until he tagged Show in. Then he got tagged back in a continued what Show started. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 6, 2009 9:59:25 GMT -5
My only thing is...what is the harm in Legacy going over? It makes them a big time team and it does not harm the status of DX. It just seems like giving them that victory would elevate them even higher than just looking stong as the losers. From a purely entertainment point of view I think it is important for the faces to prevail often. Legacy look good and at the same time everyone got to enjoy a happy end to the show. Win/win! |
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Oct 6, 2009 9:59:51 GMT -5
I know Jericho makes them look like crap but the Walls of Boston are not a minor move...
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Post by Greer on Oct 6, 2009 10:00:47 GMT -5
Well if that's the case, don't end the show with that match. End it with Taker and Punk.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 6, 2009 10:03:28 GMT -5
I know Jericho makes them look like crap but the Walls of Boston are not a minor move... That was after he got tagged back in and Show had beaten HBK down. |
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Oct 6, 2009 10:13:05 GMT -5
*sigh* Ok fine, Jericho wasn't in charge the ENTIRE match. Does he really need to be?
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Post by robferatu on Oct 6, 2009 10:31:25 GMT -5
In all honestly, and this is coming a strict anti-D-Generation X person. It made sense to have DX win, especially if they're building to a Unified Tag Team Championship match at Bragging Rights.
JeriShow dominated the match until the end, and win they started to lose the advantage. Chris Jericho decided to walk away to no avail.
So, that match ending made sense and wasn't a burial.
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