azz0r
Dennis Stamp
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Post by azz0r on Oct 6, 2009 13:54:54 GMT -5
You like Rey, thats nice, but hes not the no1 face.
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AriadosMan
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Your friendly neighborhood superhero
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 6, 2009 15:25:31 GMT -5
Rey would be just as over if he lost as if he won at this point.
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H-Fist
Hank Scorpio
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Post by H-Fist on Oct 6, 2009 16:25:48 GMT -5
Rey would be just as over if he lost as if he won at this point. Yep. The people who like Mysterio like him no matter what. He can win or lose, and they will provide an appropriate fan reaction: cheer a win, boo a loss. Hell, Mysterio losing might actually be better for the company. People who love Mysterio will now hate JeriShow all the more, and that's...DDP, help me out here...a good thing.
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Hogasm
Trap-Jaw
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Post by Hogasm on Oct 6, 2009 17:05:40 GMT -5
Mysterio is like a top-of-the-midcard Scotty 2 Hotty, Mr. Therad. Let me explain.
He could be used for good, but his (now) gimmicky style is just anticipation for a midget spot (Bronco Buster, being clotheslined out of orbit) or a setup for the 619 or his laughably weak top rope splash. If he gets a push his (sizeable) fanbase is very supportive, but as we all know his size barely gives Vince a semi so he has Rey wedged in Mark Henry buttcrack and flattened to a pancake.
Usually when he loses, they just pan on him staring bug-eyed at the lights. His eyes frighten the elderly and empower the young, making the spawn beg for t-shirts of the cretin. His flashy colors and high-flying make people think he is the lower half of Giant Gonzales and is going to suck the breath out of their chests in their sleep!
Simply put, WE NEED TO DRIVE A STAKE THRU HIS HEART!!!
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Post by TheJaredAnderson on Oct 7, 2009 0:53:21 GMT -5
The more important question here folks is why hasn't Bradtherad created more threads. Long time no see
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Sephiroth
Wade Wilson
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 7, 2009 1:05:45 GMT -5
In all honesty, if it were not for his ECW and WCW resumes, Rey would never have had a shot in WWE. While he is treated as a superstar, he jobs out more often than any of the others. He has even pointed out himself that he lost more than any other world heavyweight champion during his reign. Lets face it guys-Ray is small. He is short and he is lightweight. Two things that Vince McMahon has never been very high on. While he is still incredibly talented in the ring. While he is still a great high flyer, he is most definitely not the utter daredevil he was in days gone by. This is probably a combination of WWE's "safe" style, countless injuries, and just plain advancing age. But honestly, Rey would never have been brought into WWE if he was not already a known entity to fans from his ECW and WCW days. And even then, I imagine guys like Guerrero and Jerich had to put in a lot of good words on his behalf. In short, I think Vince tends to view Rey as a superstar...but as a superstar jobber.
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H-Fist
Hank Scorpio
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Post by H-Fist on Oct 7, 2009 1:17:38 GMT -5
Yeah, one more thing I want to add to this thread. Rey Mysterio is 35 years old. I am 25 years old. Rey Mysterio has been a professional wrestler since I was 4. The guy has been doing this, at least part-time, for 21 years - 60% of his life. I have to imagine that he's getting to a point where a body his size might not be able to take the day-to-day punishment that prolonged top-of-the-card pushes entail.
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Post by backslide on Oct 7, 2009 5:45:15 GMT -5
I actually really enjoyed the end of the match I thought it was the best of the jerrishow and rays matches of late, that big fish coming up and knocking him out of the sky for the win
they thing I cant stand with ray is so many of his moves look like the other guy is doing all the work his DDT's ect look like they could be so easily reversed, they just don't look beliveable esp VS a big guy like Kane, as for the 619.... it should hit about as often as a Lionsault, I'm on the second rope.. "oh knows whats going to happen next???" you get off the second rope because you know what hes going to do...
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 7, 2009 7:38:36 GMT -5
Okay for those who dont know, Rey Mysterio returned at HIAC and teamed with Batista to...LOSE to Jericho and Big Show. Now, I think that this is a huge mistake. Let's turn around and face the facts here...1. Rey Mysterio is one of the FACE of the company. Now what this means is that he is one of the stars who make the WWE what it is and he is nonereplaceable. You cant put any old guy under a mask and have the fans love him as much as they do Rey Mysterio. (WWE tried with that ultimate dragon guy on smackdown) He has a special connection to the fans and he also has something very few have...NATURAL talent. Not, "I went to a wrestling school for 15 years and learned all these moves". NO, thats baloney. He has natural talent that you cant learn. You cant take any other WWE wrestler and teach them to be Rey Mysterio because as Rob Van Damn's music said, Rey Mysterio is "one of a kind".
But Brad! You might ask, didnt Rey Mysterio get suspended for drugs? Besides aside the fact that I think that it was a wrong suspension and that Rey had a prescription as reports say he did which makes sense since can u imagine Rey buying drugs on a street corner? He is a millionaire of course not, so thats that, but even if you want to believe that Rey violated the policy and was suspended right, then you gotta face the fact that Rey had his punishment and he did it! He was suspended for the time and he sat at home and took it like a man and did not whine or cry.
So now, you bring back this face of your company, whom you stole the title from and destroyed his momentum and you throw him into another title match, with a partner who he had a famous tag team with, Batista. Sounds good and I was real excited that Rey Mysterio and Batista will be tag champs again especially since Jericho and "Big Boring" aka Big Show are getting stale as tag champs, they so stale that they should make their tag team name "Moldy". But I am sure there is a lot of there fans on here, so whatever. But u will admit they been champs for a long time.
And what does WWE do?
Does WWE do a creative thing and keep Mysterio on top by having them lose the titles because Jericho and Show cheated? NO!
Does the WWE do a smart thing and keep Mysterio looking strong by having Batista turn on him and beat him up/walk away? NO!
Does WWE do the STUPID thing to waste Rey Mysterio by having him be knocked out and take the pin for the loss? DING DING DING!
So whether you agree or disagree with me, you'll have to agree that WWE is defenetely wasting a huge star of theirs with this ridiculous punishing of Rey Mysterio for something he probably did not even do!
Note I realise some may say that WWE only made them lose so Jericho and Show can feud with DX which is okay but they had a million other ways to do it that did not involve making Rey Mysterio look weak ands tupid!
I hope WWE starts using Rey right again, its for their best interest!
One lost isn't the end of the world. Hell The Undertaker lost his first official match back at Breaking Point. This was after five months. Mysterio lost one match big deal. All I'm going to tell you is because since you didn't see it on the first page. All you need to do is watch Smackdown this week. Because I think you'll be fine with what Mysterio is doing. It's odvise what the WWE did with HIAC. They are making the Tag Titles worth something. Big Show and Jericho been great together. So for them to beat a former Tag Team champion Team like Mysterio and Batista where it helps them. Because after winning the titles. They never faced a time that was former tag champions together. MVP and Henry and Cryme Time never been there. I time of that. It was realistic. Ok Mysterio was KOed. You say it made Mysterio look weak. Ok Mysterio was punched by a man that has training in Boxing which where the KO punch gimmick started when he cameback. The guy hitting him is about 3 hundred pounds bigger and nearly 2 feet taller then him. In a real fight that what would happen. That what you call realism. If Mysterio kicked out or whatever on that. It make everyone else that is bigger look weak. Mark Henry and the Undertaker have been KOed by the Big Show's Punch. Mysterio will always going to have a big roll in the WWE. Hell the WWE as push the guy more then WCW ever did. That after all the injuries the guy has had. Which most guys that have the same injuries problems. The WWE would given up on them. But they have not on him.
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