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Post by Tapout on Oct 23, 2009 1:26:44 GMT -5
Something that's bugged me for a while but keep forgetting to post.
For at least 6 months now, nobody at the announce table has bothered to refer to any divas' finishers by name.
Aside from Mickie and Beth, no divas even seem to have finishers. Beth hasn't hit her finisher in the last 13 years or so, and if we're lucky, we get Lawler saying "Mickie just hit...that kick!" McRibs' finisher just seems to be a front kick to the chest, which, if we're lucky, is put over by JR as "Ooo! What a...shot!"
I'm puzzled as to why the company doesn't put over divas' finishers. I suspect it's because the company wants to de-emphasize the women as wrestlers and play them up as "characters" inside the ring, but I'm not sure.
Do you feel having WWE women with clearly-identified finishers that the announcers put over as being deadly would help the product, or do you think things are fine now?
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Oct 23, 2009 1:28:35 GMT -5
It wouldn't hurt to have names and I'd like it, but I also don't care, if that makes sense.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 3:06:40 GMT -5
Not entirely true.
Kelly has the K2, they have called it before. Gail Kim has that jawbreaker thing with her foot, that has the stupid name of Eat Defeat...and I know they called it at least once because I laughed at how stupid the name was.
Melina has the legdrop split thing, and that Code Red move. I cant remember if they have called either move by any names though. Maryse has the Snap DDT they call the French Kiss.
On SD, Nattie, when she wrestles has the Sharpshooter of course. Beth has the Glam Slam. McCool has the Faith Breaker. All of those moves have been established and called many times. Mickie has her sloppy DDT...I am not sure why its never called by its name, but it has a stupid name anyway so who cares.
Pretty much the only women who dont really have named or established finishers are the Marias and Laylas who are jobbers anyway.
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Post by PKO on Oct 23, 2009 5:05:16 GMT -5
They pretty much all have names for their finishers and the divas tell fans this in their blogs or twitters or whatever else. However, while the announcers will mention the name the first time then it's really 50/50 on whether they will bother to announce it in later matches or just say "what impact!" or something equally lame.
Layla has a neckbreaker she calls "The Layout" and has used it several times on TV (she even pinned then Women's champion Melina with it) but it has only ever been called a neckbreaker.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 23, 2009 5:07:34 GMT -5
No-one ever calls Mickie's DDT the Mickie-DT.
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Post by shamana on Oct 23, 2009 5:25:08 GMT -5
On SD, Nattie, when she wrestles has the Sharpshooter of course. When was the last time she used it, btw? She seems to be winning her matches with her clothesline thing more often than not now  |
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Post by greeby on Oct 23, 2009 5:27:27 GMT -5
Just part of how commentary has gone down the pan in recent years with the calling of wrestling moves being virtually flung out the door. Michael Cole being the worst offender, but I'd imagine with Vince yelling in the headsets, JR and Grisham have been under pressure to do it as well. Only place that seems to escape is ECW.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Oct 23, 2009 6:32:15 GMT -5
Mickie needs moar Long Kiss Goodnight.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 23, 2009 6:53:17 GMT -5
Crossreferencing wikipedia and my current EWR game, here's a list of Diva finishers:
Alica Fox: Axe Kick
Gail Kim: Eat Defeat (ugh)
Jillian: High Note (450 Splash which she never gets to use)
Kelly Kelly: K2 (mocified Fameasser)
Maryse: French Kiss (snap DDT)
Melina: Primal Scream (that split-legdrop reverse DDT thing)
Beth Phoenix: Glam Slam
Layla: Layout (neckbreaker)
Maria: Marialistic/Beautiful Bulldog (Running Bulldog (Trish's old finisher))
Michelle McCool: Faith Breaker, MADT (Make a Diva Tap)
Mickie James: Mickie-DT, Long Kiss Goodnight (her roundhouse kick is still called that despite dropping the "kiss" part)
Natalya Neidhart: Sharpshooter
Katie Lea: Kat Nip (inverted neckbreaker which like Jillian she never gets to use)
The Bellas and Rosa are the only ones who don't have a defined finisher.
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Post by Kae on Oct 23, 2009 7:43:21 GMT -5
Looking at the names, I can see why the announcers don't use them. They're generally horrible.
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Post by stormwrestling on Oct 23, 2009 8:09:59 GMT -5
I couldn't even name a diva finisher, tbh.
I know one diva uses a Styles Clash, but no idea who
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Post by krazykarl77 on Oct 23, 2009 8:39:28 GMT -5
I couldn't even name a diva finisher, tbh. I know one diva uses a Styles Clash, but no idea who Mc ribs called the faith breaker |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Oct 23, 2009 8:44:49 GMT -5
I couldn't even name a diva finisher, tbh. I know one diva uses a Styles Clash, but no idea who McCool used it. Eat Defeat needs to be turned back into Sole Food. We can blame Cabana for Eat Defeat only he called it Eat The Feet. |
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Post by Hanzo on Oct 23, 2009 9:35:56 GMT -5
Some more:
Trish Stratus: Chick Kick, Stratusfaction
Lita: Litasault, Twist of Fate
Victoria: Widow's Peak
Molly Holly: Molly-Go-Round, Twin City Twister (Indian deathlock surfboard)
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 23, 2009 10:01:54 GMT -5
Goes to show you how lazy WWE announcing is, unless it's Matt Striker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 10:11:50 GMT -5
-I thought it was the "Mickie-T", I don't recall the extra "D" being involved in the name. (They got the idea from Steve Richards, whose finisher was the "Stevie-T".)
-Nattie's spinning clothesline I remember once being called the "Hart-breaker".
I don't see why were digging so deep for finisher names, because it seems like every other Divas match is won with a roll-up.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Oct 23, 2009 16:19:06 GMT -5
Rosa does too have a match finish! It is called "Checking the Arena Lights"!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 16:28:25 GMT -5
Crossreferencing wikipedia and my current EWR game, here's a list of Diva finishers: Alica Fox: Axe Kick Gail Kim: Eat Defeat (ugh) Jillian: High Note (450 Splash which she never gets to use) Kelly Kelly: K2 (mocified Fameasser) Maryse: French Kiss (snap DDT) Melina: Primal Scream (that split-legdrop reverse DDT thing) Beth Phoenix: Glam Slam Layla: Layout (neckbreaker) Maria: Marialistic/Beautiful Bulldog (Running Bulldog (Trish's old finisher)) Michelle McCool: Faith Breaker, MADT (Make a Diva Tap) Mickie James: Mickie-DT, Long Kiss Goodnight (her roundhouse kick is still called that despite dropping the "kiss" part) Natalya Neidhart: Sharpshooter Katie Lea: Kat Nip (inverted neckbreaker which like Jillian she never gets to use) The Bellas and Rosa are the only ones who don't have a defined finisher. The Bellas finisher is the sitout facebuster which is basically X-Pac finisher. |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Oct 23, 2009 17:18:56 GMT -5
Some more: Trish Stratus: Chick Kick, Stratusfaction Lita: Litasault, Twist of Fate Victoria: Widow's Peak Molly Holly: Molly-Go-Round, Twin City Twister (Indian deathlock surfboard) Trish also had the Stratusfere which was a headscissors out of the corner |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 17:57:24 GMT -5
Some more: Trish Stratus: Chick Kick, Stratusfaction Lita: Litasault, Twist of Fate Victoria: Widow's Peak Molly Holly: Molly-Go-Round, Twin City Twister (Indian deathlock surfboard) Trish also had the Stratusfere which was a headscissors out of the corner And Lita also uses a version of the DDT as her finisher as well. |
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