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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jun 4, 2009 10:06:42 GMT -5
I wish TNA Creative would get their heads out of whatever asses they're in and put Melissa on TV as Melissa! Raisha Saeed has run its course and needs to go the way of old yeller. Kong really doesn't need her anymore. Or they could just have the beautiful people take out Saeed, who is never mentioned again as Melissa debuts sQUIRREL! GET OUTTA TOWN!
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Post by nm on Jun 4, 2009 15:33:34 GMT -5
bring in melissa as kennedy's sister. they can be like the burchills. minus the incest. That's probably exactly what they'll do.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Jun 4, 2009 15:47:20 GMT -5
I hate the Raisha Saeed gimmick because her accent is embarrassing.
That said, if she comes in as Melissa Anderson, will they play Kennedy up as a relative of hers if he comes in? Or will they just call Kennedy something other than his real name?
Either way, they really need to bring in Melissa as Melissa, if for no other reason than because the Knockouts Division could use that kind of shot in the arm. Yes, it's still a hot division, but a lot of the Knockouts are starting to run together for me. Madison Rayne is just a heel version of Taylor Wilde, for example. They feel like Mirror Universe opposites.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jun 4, 2009 16:56:00 GMT -5
Man, people act like they are trying to piss people off not having her as Melissa or something. Hell, they got about 6 different "Best Wrestlers EVAR" they're trying to figure out how to bring in, as well as dealing with the several people who just got there, not to mention the people that have been there a while.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 4, 2009 19:12:59 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories on why talent is being used.
I've said it a million times. If they really wanted to bury Melissa, she would have been Awesome Kong's lackey and jobbed out on tv. But she's not. Riasha Siad is. She's a good wrestler who can act as a mouth piece, and job to other girls without hurting Kong. She can also be a heel to help put over the babyfaces.
So now, if/when she is brought in as Melissa, she will be a totally different character. Some of these theories on Melissa and how TNA is screwing her over drives me up the wall.
Also, TNA do see talent in Melissa, that's why she was put under the veil in the first place. They wanted a good wrestler to put other talent over. Once that wore out, she would be used differently, and TNA then gave her the opportunity to work with Awesome Kong in a dark match. I can almost guarentee that Melissa did not pull a gun on Jeff Jarrett and force him to put her in a match to prove herself. They know she is talented. If they didn't, then you know what? They wouldn't use her at all, not as Cheerleader Melissa or Raisha Saeed (I think I spelled her name in two different ways).
TNA messes up a lot with different things, but they're not with Cheerleader Melissa. There are plenty of good reasons to bash TNA, without looking for stupid ones.
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Post by Starlight Starbright on Jun 5, 2009 0:15:05 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories on why talent is being used. I've said it a million times. If they really wanted to bury Melissa, she would have been Awesome Kong's lackey and jobbed out on tv. But she's not. Riasha Siad is. She's a good wrestler who can act as a mouth piece, and job to other girls without hurting Kong. She can also be a heel to help put over the babyfaces. So now, if/when she is brought in as Melissa, she will be a totally different character. Some of these theories on Melissa and how TNA is screwing her over drives me up the wall. Also, TNA do see talent in Melissa, that's why she was put under the veil in the first place. They wanted a good wrestler to put other talent over. Once that wore out, she would be used differently, and TNA then gave her the opportunity to work with Awesome Kong in a dark match. I can almost guarentee that Melissa did not pull a gun on Jeff Jarrett and force him to put her in a match to prove herself. They know she is talented. If they didn't, then you know what? They wouldn't use her at all, not as Cheerleader Melissa or Raisha Saeed (I think I spelled her name in two different ways). TNA messes up a lot with different things, but they're not with Cheerleader Melissa. There are plenty of good reasons to bash TNA, without looking for stupid ones. You keep saying that but the thing is, TNA has a loaded gun and they're not using it. Maybe they should wait until Kong is taking a hiatus and the division clears out more but it's not really a conspiracy theory- the gimmick is left over from a WWE brainstorm and they're holding on to it. Kong DOES need a manager but it seems like they could just switch that out OR keep Melissa in both roles. Either way, glad to see great womens' wrestling is reaching a bigger audience and Raven said something about it, omgz. Maybe the plight will get some relief. You know I could say something cynical but someone will call me an name, even tho another girl said the same thing in another thread. *focus on happy thoughts, happy thoughts*
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jun 5, 2009 11:31:39 GMT -5
I'm never one to endorse illegal video, but I am praying for some bootleg footage of this Melissa-Kong match.
Here's my position on Melissa. I have no problem with Raisha Saeed the character. In fact, I kinda like it since I think her glittery outfit and black hood look cool. Stupid reason to like her I guess, but that's what it is. Anyway, my problem isn't with the character. My problem is with the fact that she's a manager/jobber, and not a wrestler. Melissa is every bit as talented as the current top Knockouts -- actually in most cases, she is more talented. I guess what I'm saying is that she should be a top contender -- not the manager of a top contender. Besides, her managerial skills aren't even that great -- to this day I think her forced accent sounds a bit silly.
Bottom line - she can stay Raisha Saeed and I won't care... as long as she starts to wrestle more, I'd be happy with that. And with Homicide currently absent, she can temporarily take ownership of a certain finisher that's been sorely missed in TNA.
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Post by Kae on Jun 5, 2009 12:59:59 GMT -5
I always think an analogy is helpful to understanding why fans of women's wrestling find Melissa's current role in TNA stupid. Imagine if TNA hired, oh, Bryan Danielson and put him in a restrictive costume and made him manage another wrestler, only getting into the ring to do the job. That's what they're doing with Melissa. She's pretty much the best women's wrestler in North America - she normally has the match of the night at SHIMMER - and they're just not using her to the best of her abilities. Equally, I think her promo skills have always been rather weak. Even when she's not Raisha Saeed, they're weak. So, using her as a mouthpiece makes no sense in that regard. Especially since Kong is BETTER on the mic. To me, they have a decision between having Melissa go out and blow the audience away in the ring, or acting as rather feeble mouthpiece to another wrestler who actually has more ability in that regard. I have no idea why the latter option would seem the smart one to TNA?
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Post by Celgress on Jun 5, 2009 15:29:24 GMT -5
And for those who say women's wrestling can't draw so what does it matter blah blah blah. How about tough and sexy female characters like Lara Croft, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Selene from the Underworld series. They seem to draw, with a mainstream audience no less, rather well. Women's Wrestling could be HUGE in North America, if it was just packaged correctly for wider consumption IMHO.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jun 5, 2009 15:53:59 GMT -5
I still think that if Saeed looked like this..... ....people would be going "Cheerleader who?"
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Post by sunnytaker on Jun 5, 2009 18:27:23 GMT -5
well it must have been something TNA kept in reserve from day 1. as Raisha Saeed, Melissa was the designated jobber for Kong's next face opponent so when saeed wrestles now everyone knows its 99% likely shes going to lose. but by keeping the hood/veil on her if/when she appears as Melissa the casual fan isn;t going to associate the Saeed jobber baggage with her as Melissa. so TNA can still have Melissa can be taken as a serious threat for whoever she's brought in to go against. on the other hand i thought like a few others that's where they were going when the Beautiful People cut her hair a couple months back during their hair cutting frenzy. Fortunately since it was the BP they probably in character wouldn;t connect Melissa and Raisha as being the same person and with Cute Kip no longer there to try and tell them that fact, they'll probably never realize it. "Velvet, why is the ugly woman with the horribly cut hair always attacking us?" besides other than the one match they showed with her and Haze a while back on TNA i haven;t actually seen any of her matches so i'm curious to see for myself if melissa is as good as everyone says. and given the unveil the legend sign they showed it sounds like this will come out at some point this summer i'd think.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 5, 2009 19:41:49 GMT -5
I always think an analogy is helpful to understanding why fans of women's wrestling find Melissa's current role in TNA stupid. Imagine if TNA hired, oh, Bryan Danielson and put him in a restrictive costume and made him manage another wrestler, only getting into the ring to do the job. That's what they're doing with Melissa. She's pretty much the best women's wrestler in North America - she normally has the match of the night at SHIMMER - and they're just not using her to the best of her abilities. Equally, I think her promo skills have always been rather weak. Even when she's not Raisha Saeed, they're weak. So, using her as a mouthpiece makes no sense in that regard. Especially since Kong is BETTER on the mic. To me, they have a decision between having Melissa go out and blow the audience away in the ring, or acting as rather feeble mouthpiece to another wrestler who actually has more ability in that regard. I have no idea why the latter option would seem the smart one to TNA? Yeah, but if they were doing that with Danielson, it would still show interest in him, but they may not have something for him, or want something for him at that point. If they threw him out as Bryan Danielson, jobbed him out, make him a manager, that would be bad. But, if they had him be somebody completely different, then they're not jobbing out or misusing Bryan Danielson. They're using the character as a supporting role. And to reply to Starlight, they do have a loaded gun, but why shoot it off right now? And maybe they are going to use her soon, they did in fact put her in a dark match, and had her go balls to the, well, ovaries to the wall with Awesome Kong, and maybe she could be coming in and facing her Daffney and the Beautiful People are with Tara. Hell, they could bring her in to help fight off the Beautiful People. And you said it. Kong does need a manager. So, you have a girl who is and can make other girls look good, while keeping her strong (though with Kong being a babyface, she's not quite as useful). So, it will be interesting to see, but they're not just holding her down for the sake of it. They see talent in her, and when they have something, or when they're ready, they'll do something different. I think it's also worrying about it. She'll be fine. I guess I'm viewing it from TNA's point of view, in relation to a fan of Melissa's point of view. As fans of her, I'm guessing people want to see her so badly, because they enjoy her as Cheerleader Melissa. I'm looking at it from TNA's point of view, as seeing her as a worker and a product, in that she can help do a lot of things as the Raisha character. I would like to see her as Cheerleader Melissa myself as well, however I understand why TNA is using her the way she is.
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Post by ICBM on Jun 5, 2009 19:51:01 GMT -5
Sayeed was over bottom line. It worked so they stayed with it. It worked so well that as a heel she got huge sympathy from the entire audience live and TV audienec, when the BP cut her hair.
As for her accent being over the top-that has always been the point.
She did come up with the gimick
Wearing the costume dosn't make her any less talented
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Post by Starlight Starbright on Jun 6, 2009 2:42:15 GMT -5
It's is kinda funny that Kong is BETTER on the mid than Saeed but to have Kong display that would take over her monster persona.
Idk, I just think more occasional Melissa matches that would hopefully make the cut onto Impact if time allows would be great, it'd give the fans time to warm up to Melissa. She can do double duty, she's just being totally wasted in the managerial role.
TNA doesn't even have to acknowledge them being the same person for Melissa to wrestle so that's out the window as far as excuses go. She can pull double duty and no one but us would know. And she can still work on her manager chops.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jun 6, 2009 4:08:37 GMT -5
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