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Post by Goldenbane on Nov 16, 2009 21:49:06 GMT -5
To the thread starter: I sincerly hope you watched the director's cut/extended version of Punisher '04! While none of the stuff is really required or anything...it just adds to the movie overall.
I loved Thomas Jane and the only reason I haven't seen Warzone yet is because he's not in it. I thought Travolta was excellent and everyone else did a great job too (especially Kevin Nash...poor guy! During filming for the fight scene, Jane was given the WRONG knife, and Nash was actually friggin' stabbed! Also, when he knocks Punisher through the wall...and lumbers in...breaking down more of the wall so he can walk through...that was all pure power on Nash's part. The movie crew did NOT cut that section that Nash breaks, thinking he'd just duck as he came in. Nash is a very strong man! ;D )
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 16, 2009 22:09:52 GMT -5
Warzone was my favourite Punisher based film, not that I dislike the other 2 as I thought those pretty cool as well. Something about Warzone though, loved it.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Nov 16, 2009 22:20:02 GMT -5
To the thread starter: I sincerly hope you watched the director's cut/extended version of Punisher '04! While none of the stuff is really required or anything...it just adds to the movie overall. I loved Thomas Jane and the only reason I haven't seen Warzone yet is because he's not in it. I thought Travolta was excellent and everyone else did a great job too (especially Kevin Nash...poor guy! During filming for the fight scene, Jane was given the WRONG knife, and Nash was actually friggin' stabbed! Also, when he knocks Punisher through the wall...and lumbers in...breaking down more of the wall so he can walk through...that was all pure power on Nash's part. The movie crew did NOT cut that section that Nash breaks, thinking he'd just duck as he came in. Nash is a very strong man! ;D ) if only he was that energetic in the ring
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 16, 2009 22:38:43 GMT -5
To the thread starter: I sincerly hope you watched the director's cut/extended version of Punisher '04! While none of the stuff is really required or anything...it just adds to the movie overall. I loved Thomas Jane and the only reason I haven't seen Warzone yet is because he's not in it. I thought Travolta was excellent and everyone else did a great job too (especially Kevin Nash...poor guy! During filming for the fight scene, Jane was given the WRONG knife, and Nash was actually friggin' stabbed! Also, when he knocks Punisher through the wall...and lumbers in...breaking down more of the wall so he can walk through...that was all pure power on Nash's part. The movie crew did NOT cut that section that Nash breaks, thinking he'd just duck as he came in. Nash is a very strong man! ;D ) if only he was that energetic in the ring In the Director's Cut, he tears his quad while walking through the hole in the wall.
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Post by Brother Coyote on Nov 17, 2009 1:19:19 GMT -5
Warzone was my favourite Punisher based film, not that I dislike the other 2 as I thought those pretty cool as well. Something about Warzone though, loved it. Me too, maybe its because I loved Ray Stevenson in Rome though, Titus Pullo was the shit.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 17, 2009 1:26:44 GMT -5
Hated it, just bored by the whole thing, same with Warzone. But then again I hate the Punisher *Thank you Daken for killing him* and find all his comics other than the Russian arc of MAX boring and bad.
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Post by The Charismatic Enabeler on Nov 17, 2009 1:50:28 GMT -5
Hated it, just bored by the whole thing, same with Warzone. But then again I hate the Punisher *Thank you Daken for killing him* and find all his comics other than the Russian arc of MAX boring and bad. Ugh. Thanks for the spoiler. I hope this doesn't result in demon hunting again. And I enjoyed this movie though I could have done without Mickie.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 17, 2009 3:36:09 GMT -5
Warzone was my favourite Punisher based film, not that I dislike the other 2 as I thought those pretty cool as well. Something about Warzone though, loved it. Me too, maybe its because I loved Ray Stevenson in Rome though, Titus Pullo was the s***. Agreed. I loved Stevenson as Castle...he looks just like he stepped off the page of the comics. I dug Jane's take on the character too...just felt that Stevenson nailed it better. Another I like that WARZONE fixed was that they have flashbacks to Frank's family dying IN THE PARK, like they did in the comics. That was one thing that PUNISHER 04 did that really pissed me off....it tinkered with the mythos. You don't take Frank out of NY, and you don't change the way his family was killed. There was nothing wrong with it, and moving it to the Bahamas didn't improve it, nor did moving the film's setting to Tampa improve anything either. Punisher is as rooted in New York City as Batman is in Gotham. You wouldn't move Bruce Wayne's city of residence to San Francisco...it would be silly and stupid. So why put Frank Castle in Tampa Bay? But I digress.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 17, 2009 5:23:49 GMT -5
War Zone was much more fun.
But hey they followed the spirit of the Ennis comics. Don't just run Punisher as another generic violent vigilante. Go for broke with the absurdity and hyperbole of the violence and scenarios.
Plus it was directed by a woman. The poor man's Kathryn Bigelow, but still.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 17, 2009 5:48:42 GMT -5
War Zone was much more fun. But hey they followed the spirit of the Ennis comics. Don't just run Punisher as another generic violent vigilante. Go for broke with the absurdity and hyperbole of the violence and scenarios. Plus it was directed by a woman. The poor man's Kathryn Bigelow, but still. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it come out that her cut of the film got DRASTICALLY altered or messed with in some way by the studio? If I rermember right, she almost pulled an "Alan Smithee" because of it.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 17, 2009 6:07:15 GMT -5
More like she got "fired" at one point.
Who knows what happened, and I dont care really. Unless there's a missing more awesome director's cut locked up in a vault somewhere...
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 17, 2009 13:05:34 GMT -5
I thought Thomas Jayne was damn good in the role....and I personally loved it... It was and still is the BEST Punisher representation on film. Dolph Lundgren's sucked. That recent one (which I paid to see) was so cornball-ish, it was ridiculous. Thomas Jane's Punisher had just enough violence and a comic book feel to it to make it good. No super gore, heads exploding, and no Lundgren sitting naked in the sewers. Can't unsee...thanks Dolph...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2009 13:07:32 GMT -5
Me too, maybe its because I loved Ray Stevenson in Rome though, Titus Pullo was the s***. Agreed. I loved Stevenson as Castle...he looks just like he stepped off the page of the comics. I dug Jane's take on the character too...just felt that Stevenson nailed it better. Another I like that WARZONE fixed was that they have flashbacks to Frank's family dying IN THE PARK, like they did in the comics. That was one thing that PUNISHER 04 did that really pissed me off....it tinkered with the mythos. You don't take Frank out of NY, and you don't change the way his family was killed. There was nothing wrong with it, and moving it to the Bahamas didn't improve it, nor did moving the film's setting to Tampa improve anything either. Punisher is as rooted in New York City as Batman is in Gotham. You wouldn't move Bruce Wayne's city of residence to San Francisco...it would be silly and stupid. So why put Frank Castle in Tampa Bay? But I digress. I liked Tropical Punisher Now if only there was a scene where he wore a Hawaiian shirt
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2009 15:46:26 GMT -5
I greatly enjoyed this movie; Thomas Jane was perfect for the role. I always figured he did that as part of his effort to find out who sold him out. Yeah, that's why they should have never cut the stuff with Jimmy Weeks from the theatrical version. It made Frank confronting him in front of the courthouse look pointless without those extra scenes. Ah that makes sense Also answered another small question I had as to who gave Saint the info To the thread starter: I sincerly hope you watched the director's cut/extended version of Punisher '04! While none of the stuff is really required or anything...it just adds to the movie overall. Nope, wasn't a directors cut version DVD, never know if I see it in a shop, I'd get it for the tight price
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