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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 16, 2009 16:39:26 GMT -5
I for one liked Independence Day, and the film before that Stargate and the film before that, Universal Soldier.
Problem is after Independence Day, the guy has done just crap since.
* Godzilla (1998) - a film so bad most Godzilla fans don't even count it. * The Patriot (2000) - the stupid Mel Gibson Revolutionary War movie that is almost an exact duplicate of Bravehart except Mel Gibson lives in this one. * The Day After Tomorrow (2004) - a global warming movie where Roland and others went out on press junkets saying that this film is a warning on exactly what would happen if global warming continued. And yet once people in science saw it, even those who are trying to warn us on global warming told us that there is no way in hell most of this stuff can happen. * 10,000 B.C. - A movie where you expect alot of prehistoric mammals in it and yet, they rarely appear in the damn movie. Also the movie has one of the biggest bullcrap endings I have ever seen.
And to compare this to Towering Inferno/Airport is an insult to those films because while what they were destroying were set pieces, they were actually destroying stuff. From what I saw in the previews, all of the stuff that is getting destroyed is CGI that you can tell is not real.
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Post by Insomniac on Nov 16, 2009 16:50:36 GMT -5
This movie being #1 makes me very furious inside that you would be willing to see Roland Emmerich's crap after the last several films he has done. Congrats as you just kept this guy in show business for a few more years. Like I said man, people are STUPID, they like big explosions and stuff. Most movie goers don't give two s***s about the story, they just want Bay-splosions and any film that has Bay-splosions has their money 100% sure fire. Let's try not to generalize people as "stupid" because they go to see a movie for the visual experience instead of a quality story. Not everyone wants to follow a story, watch character development, and have their mind put to work. Some people want a popcorn flick that offers mindless fun, where you can shut your brain off for 90-120 minutes and watch things blow up. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Labeling people as "stupid" for doing so, especially when that includes posters on this forum, will not be tolerated. That said, I haven't seen the movie but might get around to it eventually. I'm a fan of these "End of the World" movies, even if the plot is illogical and it's loaded with inaccuracies. Doesn't matter if I get to see an entire city destroyed in the process.
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 16, 2009 17:04:28 GMT -5
Well, wouldn't "shutting off your brain" be the literal definition of "stupid"? Not that I really care what anyone likes, my tastes certainly lean towards the "bottom of the barrel" just as much as anyone else, I just just hate the term "turning off your brain". If you're really required to not think at all watching something, there's a problem with the movie, not the viewer.
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Post by Insomniac on Nov 16, 2009 17:15:00 GMT -5
Well, wouldn't "shutting off your brain" be the literal definition of "stupid"? Quiet you Not that I really care what anyone likes, my tastes certainly lean towards the "bottom of the barrel" just as much as anyone else, I just just hate the term "turning off your brain". If you're really required to not have to not think at all watching something, there's a problem with the movie, not the viewer. Well when I say "shut off your brain", I'm basically saying to not worry about the fact that the movie is pretty much unrealistic. Independence Day is a perfect example. It was filled with stuff that didn't make sense (Sending a computer virus to an alien mothership? Really?), but that didn't matter. It was about the spectacle, the viewing experience. You got to see NYC completely destroyed. The White House was gone in a matter of seconds. It's all about remembering what the focus of the movie is.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2009 17:55:35 GMT -5
After spending a decade wishing for a freak tidal wave to wipe out John Cusack and get him the hell off of my screen, finally a movie comes along where theres actually a good chance that that could happen! {Spoiler}And he survives! {Spoiler}Son of a bitch. He gets rained on in like 80% of his films, is that close enough?
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 13:14:03 GMT -5
So has anyone actually tried researching the Mayan Calendar because while it may prove how much time i have on my hands but it says that something sginificant will happen on 12/21/12 but nothing that will signal the end of the world. Although unless it falls right in with the Mayan Calendar the comet theory still looms.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 17, 2009 13:17:11 GMT -5
Eh, all you'll get on the 2012 "experts" are either New Age fruitcakes that say we'll all evolve into spiritual squid people or the crazy fatalists who so desperately want us to fall into the sun.
My scholarly opinion? At least the nuts won't be hogging up the stores for holiday shopping that year.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 16:34:14 GMT -5
Eh, all you'll get on the 2012 "experts" are either New Age fruitcakes that say we'll all evolve into spiritual squid people or the crazy fatalists who so desperately want us to fall into the sun. My scholarly opinion? At least the nuts won't be hogging up the stores for holiday shopping that year. What about that comet that those crazy people who believe 2012 is going to happen that's supposed to hit us on that day or does that theory also fall in with the Mayan Calendar fear.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 17, 2009 16:37:53 GMT -5
Eh, all you'll get on the 2012 "experts" are either New Age fruitcakes that say we'll all evolve into spiritual squid people or the crazy fatalists who so desperately want us to fall into the sun. My scholarly opinion? At least the nuts won't be hogging up the stores for holiday shopping that year. What about that comet that those crazy people who believe 2012 is going to happen that's supposed to hit us on that day or does that theory also fall in with the Mayan Calendar fear. What comet? A mystery one that hasn't even been observed by anyone and is just one of the gajillions of random "theories" by random people that have no true understanding of how the universe, galaxy or even their own planet works? The only currently observed comet even having a remote chance of hitting us is in 2036, and even that things chances are way low.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 16:41:48 GMT -5
What about that comet that those crazy people who believe 2012 is going to happen that's supposed to hit us on that day or does that theory also fall in with the Mayan Calendar fear. What comet? A mystery one that hasn't even been observed by anyone and is just one of the gajillions of random "theories" by people? The only comet I've ever read about even having a remote chance of hitting us is in 2036, and even that things chances are way low. So the whole comet thing is also made up because is honestly the only fear i had for 2012.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 17, 2009 16:43:28 GMT -5
Yep, if you fear comets, move you fears back to 2036 because as of right now that's the only real chance we have at being hit barring some comet doing a teleport and mysteriously showing up from thin air... or non-air...
Even then in 2036 it's not likely.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 16:43:30 GMT -5
I've also heard the potential of a Volcanic eruption Yellowstone as my sister mentioned it potentially happening in 2012.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 17, 2009 16:49:27 GMT -5
The only thing that people think is going to hit us in 2012 is a wayward planet full of aliens on a collision course with Earth. Seriously, I'm not making that up. That's what some of these nuts believe, despite the fact that we'd already see a planet if it was three years away.
And the Yellowstone thing has always been a "what-if" scenario, but it's never been tied down to a specific date. The only reason people are saying 2012 is they're convinced the world has to end some way on this date.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 17, 2009 16:49:46 GMT -5
Is your sister a geologist, or is the people she got this info from? Look, ANYONE can come up with any random ass "theory" they want. I can do it now. We are going to die in 2012 because the moon is going to fall out of orbit and collide into us.
There is no factual basis in this and no scientific principle, but I'll say it anyways! That's what all these "theories" are. The reason I put the quote marks so much to is that in all reality, they aren't theories. Just randomly guessing something isn't the definition for a scientific theory.
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 17, 2009 16:57:40 GMT -5
I'd worry more about all the other 1000 ways to die that can happen to you right now or any time you happen to step out of your house or while eating or showering or breathing before I worry about dying on a specific date. and even then I wouldn't worry too much, life is for living not for thinking about dying.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 17:00:33 GMT -5
Is your sister a geologist, or is the people she got this info from? Look, ANYONE can come up with any random ass "theory" they want. I can do it now. We are going to die in 2012 because the moon is going to fall out of orbit and collide into us. There is no factual basis in this and no scientific principle, but I'll say it anyways! That's what all these "theories" are. The reason I put the quote marks so much to is that in all reality, they aren't theories. Just randomly guessing something isn't the definition for a scientific theory. Actually she saw it some movie that her science class watched. But in my estimation there's no way rhw world is ending in 2012. The Mayan Calendar ends and i've read that something is supposed to happen that day but not what everyone thinks.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 17, 2009 17:22:48 GMT -5
Here's my theory. I think there are certain things that we are not supposed to know about one being the end of the earth and Armageddon we aren't supposed to know when it's going to happen and honestly i hope none of us at least are around to see it. Go ahead anyone that takes offnese to me saying that. Also the Yellowstone theory my point on that is how the hell does a volcano exploding in one state effect a whole earth and kill it that doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 18, 2009 10:20:33 GMT -5
Here's my final thought as far is 2012 anyone who thinks that the world is ending in 2012 please google 2012 and you'll find out the actual truth plus Mayan People have called BS on this according to what i've read says the Mayan Calendar never predicted an apocolypze i think for some reason it's just people who want to see the world end for whatever reason.
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Post by B.B.M on Nov 18, 2009 11:29:58 GMT -5
Yep, if you fear comets, move you fears back to 2036 because as of right now that's the only real chance we have at being hit barring some comet doing a teleport and mysteriously showing up from thin air... or non-air... Even then in 2036 it's not likely. And even if it did hit, it wouldn't cause any extinction, due to it not being strong enough. I won't be seeing this film, because i've had history with this stupid date.
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Post by mike5286 on Nov 18, 2009 15:49:40 GMT -5
So basically all these people that are predicting the end of the world on 12/21/12 let me tell you that it's not going to happen it's another Dec 31st 1999 situation. World will end when it ends.
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