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Post by Rorschach on Nov 19, 2009 21:34:47 GMT -5
Are we seriously gonna go down that path again? I thought after the disastrous "Frank Castle: Hellblazer" storyline, paranormal Punisher stories were verboten?
Please tell me this is an alternate reality storyline or something. At least WAR ZONE is still around as an alternate to this storyline, right?
Ever since my local shop closed it's doors, I've fallen behind in keeping up with comic storylines and such, so I hope this isn't going to become cannon or something.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 19, 2009 21:36:06 GMT -5
.....wait, what?
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 19, 2009 21:36:47 GMT -5
Yup it's 616 cannon and the only time I've given a damn about the Punisher period. Can't wait till the Midnight Sons issue and seeing how he's on Monster Island here's to hoping Godzilla shows up at one point *Big G is Marvel cannon*. And if you want Gritty Punisher you still have MAX, everyone wins.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 19, 2009 21:38:39 GMT -5
Yup it's 616 cannon and the only time I've given a damn about the Punisher period. Can't wait till the Midnight Sons issue and seeing how he's on Monster Island here's to hoping Godzilla shows up at one point *Big G is Marvel cannon*. And if you want Gritty Punisher you still have MAX, everyone wins. .....for the love of god, someone explain this to me LOL. And Godzilla WAS Marvel canon in the 70's...till they lost the license and Dr Demonicus "mutated" Godzilla into a lame generic monster that fought I believe Iron Man |
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 19, 2009 21:38:55 GMT -5
Frank was beefing with Osbourne and the writers realized that at this point it doesn't make sense for him to live at all with the resources Norman has at his disposal. Frank ended up fighting Daken, to say Frank lost would be an understatement. Swampthings Moloids found what remained of Frank and put him back togther so Frank could protect Swmap Thing and the other denizens of Monster Island from the Cyborg Monster Hunting Samurai who are trying to kill everything on the Island. Frank wants nothing to do with the whole situation.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 19, 2009 21:39:01 GMT -5
Yup it's 616 cannon and the only time I've given a damn about the Punisher period. Can't wait till the Midnight Sons issue and seeing how he's on Monster Island here's to hoping Godzilla shows up at one point *Big G is Marvel cannon*. And if you want Gritty Punisher you still have MAX, everyone wins. So wait a minute...let me get this straight...in the "regular" universe, Frank Castle is dead, cut to shreds, and has been patched back together again....sent to live on the Isle of Abominations forever. So what universe does the "gritty" Punisher take place in? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 21:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 21:40:03 GMT -5
Yup it's 616 cannon and the only time I've given a damn about the Punisher period. Can't wait till the Midnight Sons issue and seeing how he's on Monster Island here's to hoping Godzilla shows up at one point *Big G is Marvel cannon*. And if you want Gritty Punisher you still have MAX, everyone wins. So wait a minute...let me get this straight...in the "regular" universe, Frank Castle is dead, cut to shreds, and has been patched back together again....sent to live on the Isle of Abominations forever. So what universe does the "gritty" Punisher take place in? The one with the movies? |
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 19, 2009 21:40:46 GMT -5
Yup it's 616 cannon and the only time I've given a damn about the Punisher period. Can't wait till the Midnight Sons issue and seeing how he's on Monster Island here's to hoping Godzilla shows up at one point *Big G is Marvel cannon*. And if you want Gritty Punisher you still have MAX, everyone wins. .....for the love of god, someone explain this to me LOL. And Godzilla WAS Marvel canon in the 70's...till they lost the license and Dr Demonicus "mutated" Godzilla into a lame generic monster that fought I believe Iron Man Aaron is negotiating with the Big G people to see if they can use Godzilla again for a bit. So wait a minute...let me get this straight...in the "regular" universe, Frank Castle is dead, cut to shreds, and has been patched back together again....sent to live on the Isle of Abominations forever. So what universe does the "gritty" Punisher take place in? Completely different univerese devoid of any superheros. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 21:43:12 GMT -5
Isn't The Russian in MAX?
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 19, 2009 21:43:23 GMT -5
.....for the love of god, someone explain this to me LOL. And Godzilla WAS Marvel canon in the 70's...till they lost the license and Dr Demonicus "mutated" Godzilla into a lame generic monster that fought I believe Iron Man Aaron is negotiating with the Big G people to see if they can use Godzilla again for a bit. So wait a minute...let me get this straight...in the "regular" universe, Frank Castle is dead, cut to shreds, and has been patched back together again....sent to live on the Isle of Abominations forever. So what universe does the "gritty" Punisher take place in? Completely different univerese devoid of any superheros. Huh. Interesting, since they've had runs on that series in the past where Frank has fought Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Wolverine. Unless they decided at some point since I last bought a Punisher TPB, to institute that rule. The last Punisher trade I bought at my shop was "Girls in White Dresses", where Frank went south of the border and cleaned up some child trafficking scum. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 19, 2009 21:43:50 GMT -5
Shit that's ridiculous.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 19, 2009 21:44:32 GMT -5
Wow I've REALLY gotta catch up on this stuff.
And kroot, can you explain "Aaron is negotiating with the Big G people to see if they can use Godzilla again for a bit." to me? I dont know who this Aaron is, but if Marvel is talking to Toho again.....
Anyway, anyone wanting "gritty Punisher", just buy the MAX stuff.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 19, 2009 21:50:46 GMT -5
As crazy as it sounds...I kinda want to catch up with that and The List.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Nov 19, 2009 21:55:29 GMT -5
the problem with franken punisher is that RIGHT BEFORE this happened they started doing new interesting things with the punisher in the regular marvel universe... and then they said screw it let's just kill him and turn him into a monster for the lulz!
And yea, punisher MAX is set in a different universe altogether.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 19, 2009 21:56:27 GMT -5
I don't know. It' hard to go from barbecuing the bodies of your revived family to hanging out with the rest of the misfit toys as Frankie from Small Soldiers.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 19, 2009 21:57:10 GMT -5
Wow I've REALLY gotta catch up on this stuff. And kroot, can you explain "Aaron is negotiating with the Big G people to see if they can use Godzilla again for a bit." to me? I dont know who this Aaron is, but if Marvel is talking to Toho again..... Anyway, anyone wanting "gritty Punisher", just buy the MAX stuff. Jason Aaron, he wants to use Big G for a Ghostrider story *I don't know how but it's Jason Aaron, he'll make it work* and he's been trying to get Joe Q to open talks with Toho to get the rights back temporarily. If Aaron is able to Remander wants to use him seeing how he's using Monster Island right now. I don't know how far along talks are or if there even still happening though, it's been like a month without word on it. |
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 19, 2009 22:28:02 GMT -5
And just so we are clear about this, Marvel losing the rights to Transformers, GI Joe, Fu Manchu and Godzilla is Spiderman's fault.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 19, 2009 22:42:37 GMT -5
And just so we are clear about this, Marvel losing the rights to Transformers, GI Joe, Fu Manchu and Godzilla is Spiderman's fault. Hey Deaths Head recently showed up in S.W.O.R.D. #1. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 20, 2009 0:13:40 GMT -5
And just so we are clear about this, Marvel losing the rights to Transformers, GI Joe, Fu Manchu and Godzilla is Spiderman's fault. Hey Deaths Head recently showed up in S.W.O.R.D. #1. Death's Head is and was a Marvel character from the beginning, whom they happened to interject into the Transformers (and Dr. Who) books afterwards. Regarding the Punisher - The Marvel Knights stuff that Ennis started is definitely MU/616. Once it went to MAX, it sort of veered off into its own universe. Our basic rule with the MAX series is that what we see in it may have happened on 616 as well, but not exactly the same way. |
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