Vampiro138
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Post by Vampiro138 on Nov 15, 2009 2:11:21 GMT -5
i went with riddler after thinking for a few minutes...probably riddler followed very very closely by two face, my favorite episode of the animated series was the two part two face episode...BUT over all...the riddler has been pretty awesome most of the time and i like how he knows hes super smart, his main goal is to know something batman dosent...even if he were in a burning house and only batman could save him riddler would still give him a damn puzzle to solve just to find him.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 15, 2009 8:10:55 GMT -5
I've got a top 5 list here, but my problem is they all switch around at different times when I think about them. So, in no particular order:
Mad Hatter (The well-meaning nerd who loses out to better looking guys from TAS is a character I can, unfortunately, identify with. The creepiness factor of the character <generally highlighted in more recent years in the comics>, not so much, but it adds something to him)
Two-Face (As others have said, there's a lot of tragedy to his story, as well as the Batman/Harvey dynamic. I always liked the character, but TDK and Aaron Eckhart made me love the character.)
Mr. Freeze (I absolutely love "Heart of Ice" because of how compelling and tragic the story is. That one episode of a Saturday morning cartoon packs so much emotional punch its amazing. I like the overall vibe and look of the character, too.)
Poison Ivy (So long as its not Uma Thurman, Ivy is the sexiest rogue in Batman's gallery. Beyond that, I like that her intentions are noble, trying to bring the beauty of nature to black-on-black dismal Gotham, but her demeanor and her psychosis do so much to counteract her potential nobility.)
The Riddler (Green is my favorite color. ;D I also like his intelligence and his overall sophisticated-but-on-the-verge-of-snapping demeanor <most notably seen in Frank Gorshin's quieter scenes, and too a less "on-the-verge" extent on TAS>.)
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 9:57:28 GMT -5
My top three are Two Face, Scarecrow, and the Ventriloquist/Scarface.
I like Joker a lot, but I feel he is overdone, just because his character has no backstory and is varied enough that any author can pretty much do whatever they want with him. It allows for a lot of interesting stories, but also lazy writing.
I chose Scarecrow because I feel like he is a really underrated character. A lot could be done with him but thus far not many writers have seemed up to the challenge.
The Ventriloquist is also very underrated. As Batman: TAS shows, you can come up with a lot of great stories centered around him. Of course that show made great use of just about every villian.
Edit: I also like Riddler a lot, but as with Scarecrow it requires a more adept, imaginative writer to portray him effectively. Again, I point to Batman: TAS. I wish Riddler had been used more on the show but its tough to center episodes around one of the few villians Batman has who isn't a homicidal maniac and poses absolutely no physical threat to Batman or anyone else for that matter.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 10:13:57 GMT -5
Easily Two-Face. I've always felt as if he really deserves to be Batman's arch-nemesis moreso than the Joker, just due to Harvey Dent's past with Batman. There is so much tragedy in the story of Harvey Dent and Batman that it's a bit of a shame that he's never been the top villain. I can understand why Joker is the top Bat-villain, but at the same time I think Two-Face should be more highly regarded. Felt I should respond to this since I completely agree. Especially when they go with the backstory of how Batman and Harvey used to be friends, yet Batman couldn't help him when he needed it and thus Dent hates him for it, not as much as he hates himself but enough to take his anger out on Batman. Its why, to me, it would always make more sense for Two Face to be Batmans archfoe. A much more personal link there. It also makes more sense that Batman wouldn't want to take him out since there is always that chance that Harvey could be helped and redeemed. Much more interesting to me than the dynamic between Joker and Batman. I know Batman has the no kill rule which is why he never takes Joker out either...but honestly, even with that rule it never made sense to me why Batman would ever allow Joker, for all the people he has killed, and someone who has absolutely no chance of ever being helped or redeemed, to keep getting free and killing people for nothing but thrills and fun. If anything, you would think Batman would at least just cripple him so he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone else ever again. I know, its comics, Joker is popular so that would never happen...still, I like to have a bit of logic and believability to a point and Joker is so overdone storywise that he has killed as many people as Jason Voorhees at this point. Its just reached a level of silliness [at least in the comics] to me. With Two Face it is more sensible that Batman would hold out hope he could be helped and thus restrain from taking him out for good. I just think a tragic fallen hero and a broken friendship, in addition to Batman seeing a lot of his worst traits in Harvey Dent taken to their logical extreme is way more interesting than "I wont kill you because I want to prove I am better than you," and "I cant kill Batman because I want to have more fun with him again in two months when I break out of prison, AGAIN, and kill more people to piss Batman off, AGAIN." I know I am oversimplifying things a bit there, and I am not saying that there hasn't been a lot of great Joker stories and wont be more in the future, but you get what I mean.
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Post by quantum on Nov 15, 2009 11:45:25 GMT -5
Joker he was Batman's main enemy and is who most people think of when Batman is mentioned. Without The Joker they would have been no Batman therefore no more villains. Joker was awesome in both the old 60's series as well as portrayed by Jack Nicholson and good (not as good as Nicholson though)( in The Dark Knight.
Also I enjoyed Batman Forever and although it wans;t as good as the first two movies I don;t see what was wrong with it. Never watched Batman and Robin though mostly because of the reviews I have read about it.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Nov 15, 2009 12:02:33 GMT -5
I've always favoured the Joker. I loved Jack Nicholson's portrayal of him, and I love Ledger's portrayal of him just as much, if not slightly more.
And one of my favourite Batman comic is "The Killing Joke".
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Post by S-Chrome on Nov 15, 2009 12:31:01 GMT -5
I'm torn between Hugo Strange and Ra's al Ghul. Hmmm.
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