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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 20, 2009 14:21:01 GMT -5
I do blame the defense mostly for that loss. But the things I do blame Delhomme for is the fact that several times in the redzone, he had gotten us only a field goal and for that horrible one minute offense.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 20, 2009 14:34:03 GMT -5
One minute offense goes to coaching again though. If they don't train the guys to do it, they aren't going to do it. And like I said, the redzone failure is on the coaches to. We have a guy running the ball like a madman and a QB that's struggling and you pass the ball like 8 straight times.
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 20, 2009 15:56:45 GMT -5
For anyone blaming Delhomme for last nights loss, I have to laugh. Yeah he threw the one sorry ass INT, but he also had a good TD throw and drove us down the field to almost tie the game at the end. You know who I blame? 1) An an O-Line that couldn't protect him to save their lives, as seen on the very last play of the game when they needed to protect him the most. It was apparent to me that the loss of Jordan Gross is going to be huge in pass protection from the begining of this game. 2) A defense that about half way through the game just decided to stop tackling and couldn't get any preasure on the QB almost all night long. 3) Most importantly, the coaches. A coaching staff that in first three trips to the red zone, including being inside the 10 twice, never once called a running play. A coaching staff that, despite DeAngelo Williams averaging 9.3 yards per carry only had him carry the ball 13 times. A coaching staff that while we were gashing them running the ball called 46 pass plays. Like I said 2 weeks ago, I'm all for dumping Davidson at any time. That guy is a terrible play caller.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 20, 2009 16:06:14 GMT -5
One minute offense goes to coaching again though. If they don't train the guys to do it, they aren't going to do it. And like I said, the redzone failure is on the coaches to. We have a guy running the ball like a madman and a QB that's struggling and you pass the ball like 8 straight times. Although a one minute offense is on the QB as well, who is supposed to be the anchor of that team. He is supposed to get the team together to get a play off. There is a reason Donovan McNabb got crapped on for his bad two minute offense in the Super Bowl.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 20, 2009 16:10:37 GMT -5
One minute offense goes to coaching again though. If they don't train the guys to do it, they aren't going to do it. And like I said, the redzone failure is on the coaches to. We have a guy running the ball like a madman and a QB that's struggling and you pass the ball like 8 straight times. Although a one minute offense is on the QB as well, who is supposed to be the anchor of that team. He is supposed to get the team together to get a play off. And like I just said, it's the coaching staffs job to get a QB prepared to do that. We've NEVER had a good clock management one minute offense, NEVER. That's coaching. The QB in that situation is only going to do what he was trained to do. Plus you're acting like we had no shot at all. Fact is Jake got us to a point where we did have a shot. I mean, I've come to the point where I'm willing to admit when Jake costs us a game, like many this year, but this just wasn't one of those games. There were other, much bigger problems than Jake.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 20, 2009 19:10:56 GMT -5
ESPN reports that Redskins DT Albert Haynesworth (ankle) is unlikely to play Sunday against the Cowboys
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 20, 2009 22:39:30 GMT -5
The Giants announced late Friday that MLB Antonio Pierce will be out indefinitely after a bulging disc was discovered in Pierce's neck.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Nov 20, 2009 23:19:49 GMT -5
ESPN reports that Redskins DT Albert Haynesworth (ankle) is unlikely to play Sunday against the Cowboys Yeah, I'm sure that's why he won't play. Not that the Cowboys may be out to exact revenge for what happened a couple years ago.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 20, 2009 23:23:50 GMT -5
Plus, I doubt Albert wants to put his body on the line for a trainwreck like the Redskins organization right now.
Can't blame him.
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Post by The Line on Nov 21, 2009 0:29:44 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for shitty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick.
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 21, 2009 7:38:15 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for s***ty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick. But then we wouldn't get an epic encounter like we are getting this weekend. The Browns and the Lions!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 9:46:05 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for s***ty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick. But then we wouldn't get an epic encounter like we are getting this weekend. The Browns and the Lions!!! Or Raiders vs Browns a few weeks later.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 21, 2009 11:10:19 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for s***ty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick. You play to NOT get the First Draft Pick. That thing is a curse.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Nov 21, 2009 13:35:04 GMT -5
You guys are being too harsh. Sure Baltimore/Indy will be a decent game at least, but I'd much rather watch Superbowl 78 1/2 between AT LEAST WE'RE NOT DETROIT VS AT LEAST WE'RE NOT CLEVELAND. A battle of a sooooomewhat decent offense (Lions) and a soooomewhat decent defense (Browns), as well as a putrid defense (Lions) and an offense that could would make Jigglypuff jealous (Browns).
I have to watch this. Somehow.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 21, 2009 19:53:11 GMT -5
Reggie Bush (knee) and Sedrick Ellis (MCL sprain) have been downgraded to "out" and will not travel with the team to Tampa.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 21, 2009 19:53:48 GMT -5
As of Saturday afternoon, Kyle Orton's left ankle had not recovered enough to play Sunday, according to the Denver Post.
Andre Johnson denied an ESPN The Magazine report that he plans to force a trade if the Texans don't make the playoffs.
Jaguars released S Brian Russell.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 20:07:10 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for s***ty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick. You play to NOT get the First Draft Pick. That thing is a curse. Exactly. How many #1s have fulfilled that draft position and either not bust or underwhelmed? Consider that in the last 11 years so far, only Peyton Manning comes off as a sure-fire Hall of Famer. But who knows, maybe Palmer and Eli will turn around? And hell, Mario Williams has surprised everyone so far. Consider especially 1986-1990 in the contrast. 1986, Bucs draft Bo Jackson. He didn't sign, played baseball. The next year's draft, Raiders draft him in the 7th round. As back-up to future HOFer Marcus Allen, and part-time baseball/football player, Bo was quite something, if perhaps could have done more if he had simply picked one sport, until his unfortunate 1991 hip injury. 1987, Bucs draft Vinny Testaverde. Average QB usually, decent at times. Blossumed much later in his career with Pro Bowls for both Baltimore and Jets. Still passed for 40,000+ yards which is absolutely impressive. Finally retired at age 44 in Carolina. 1988, Falcons take Aundry Bruce. Serviceable linebacker, yet only started 42 games in his 11 year career. 1989, Cowboys take Troy Aikman. 'Nuff siad. 1990, Colts take Jeff George. This being back when Colts made such wonderful top bust picks, 'Nuff said.
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Post by Error on Nov 21, 2009 21:06:06 GMT -5
The last over all 1 to make the HOF was Aikman, drafted in 1990. Since then only 10 have made the Pro Bowl: Russel Maryland Drew Bledsoe Keyshawn Johnson Orlando Pace Peyton Manning Michael Vick Carson Palmer Eli Manning Mario Williams Jake Long
Of those, only Pace and the Mannings have a shot at the HOF, IMO. Williams and Long are too early in their careers to decide.
Also, since Aikman the non-Pro Bowlers: Jeff George Steve Emtman Dan Wilkinson Ki-Jana Carter Tim Couch Courtney Brown David Carr Alex Smith JaMarcus Russell
and Matthew Stafford.
So really at the moment it's 50-50 at best, IMO.
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Post by Robbymac on Nov 22, 2009 0:14:02 GMT -5
Pace and Peyton are sure fire hall of famers.
Eli might be just because he has a famous name and won a Super Bowl in New York.
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Post by Cavs for Mavs Mafia on Nov 22, 2009 3:19:21 GMT -5
The NFL should put some rule in effect that the bottom 8 teams have to take a year off or something. Still get to participate in the draft and free agency and whatnot, but not allowed to play any games, because really, what is the motivation for s***ty teams like the Browns and Lions to win(or for that matter, even play)? At this point, those teams should just lose to try and get a better draft pick. But then we wouldn't get an epic encounter like we are getting this weekend. The Browns and the Lions!!! I'm really looking forward to this game. Hopefully it will be laughable bad and not soul crushingly bad like Browns-Bills.
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