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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 22, 2009 8:40:32 GMT -5
He was just named the most overpaid actor in Hollywood.
He either can't or doesn't want to play anything other than a goofy man-child.
Land of the Lost was a huge bomb, both critically and box-office wise.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Nov 22, 2009 8:46:56 GMT -5
That may be true (in regards to his acting ability) but I don't know if I'd quite shovel the dirt on his career yet. After all, there were people who said that Robin Williams' career was over after Popeye flopped both critically and commercially as well.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 22, 2009 8:50:52 GMT -5
I dont think it's over for him, but I do think he has reached his apex.
I *want* to like him, I really do. The guy is a likeable person and can do more than screaming manchild roles (see: Stranger than fiction) but until he attempts to do something outside the box, he wont get any of my money
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Post by 4real on Nov 22, 2009 8:56:39 GMT -5
I hope so, I can't stand him personally and I don't see him as a star at all. His presence in any film is a turn off for me.
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Post by Grendel on Nov 22, 2009 9:23:32 GMT -5
I think he usually does okay in supporting roles, but in movies where he is the lead he is terrible ... His goofball stuff only can carry a movie so far.
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Post by bob on Nov 22, 2009 9:28:00 GMT -5
his movies need MORE COWBELL!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Citizen Snips on Nov 22, 2009 9:29:10 GMT -5
I think most of the comedians of the early part of the decade are at the point where their schtick has run its course. Ferrell and Jack Black are probably the two biggest examples, though Michael Cera seems to be trying to catch up fast. I have no idea why Hollywood wants to make them stars instead of solid supporting players (oh, wait. Money.)
Look at a guy like Will Arnett. He usually plays the same character in every role, but since he's never the focal point of the show/movie, he's able to get more mileage out of the image. But these guys like Ferrell and Black have been the stars of their vehicles and eventually, it will run its course.
It's possible they're afraid of abandoning the lucrative paydays to leave their comfort zone. But Tom Hanks started off in Bosom Buddies and Splash. In a just world, Jim Carrey should have at least one Oscar by now (Truman Show or Eternal Sunshine).
I think the best thing for Ferrell to do would be to do comedies but leave the Apatow/McKay universe he inhabits. Do a movie with someone with a different style of humor, like Bill Murray. Work a comedy that follows a tight script instead relying on improvisation, like a Coen Brothers or Wes Anderson movie.
In short, he's not finished, but he does need to change up his act to stay relevant.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 22, 2009 10:18:31 GMT -5
I think most of the comedians of the early part of the decade are at the point where their schtick has run its course. Ferrell and Jack Black are probably the two biggest examples, though Michael Cera seems to be trying to catch up fast. I have no idea why Hollywood wants to make them stars instead of solid supporting players (oh, wait. Money.) Look at a guy like Will Arnett. He usually plays the same character in every role, but since he's never the focal point of the show/movie, he's able to get more mileage out of the image. But these guys like Ferrell and Black have been the stars of their vehicles and eventually, it will run its course. It's possible they're afraid of abandoning the lucrative paydays to leave their comfort zone. But Tom Hanks started off in Bosom Buddies and Splash. In a just world, Jim Carrey should have at least one Oscar by now (Truman Show or Eternal Sunshine). I think the best thing for Ferrell to do would be to do comedies but leave the Apatow/McKay universe he inhabits. Do a movie with someone with a different style of humor, like Bill Murray. Work a comedy that follows a tight script instead relying on improvisation, like a Coen Brothers or Wes Anderson movie. In short, he's not finished, but he does need to change up his act to stay relevant. This is pretty much where I stand. Very well put
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 22, 2009 11:28:13 GMT -5
That may be true (in regards to his acting ability) but I don't know if I'd quite shovel the dirt on his career yet. After all, there were people who said that Robin Williams' career was over after Popeye flopped both critically and commercially as well. Exactly, and who thought that guy would win an Oscar? So Ferrell had a box-office dud. They happen to every "major" moviestar. Hell even Will Smith, probably the world's biggest moviestar right now, lets just say Ali wasn't a knockout in theatres.
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Post by stormwrestling on Nov 22, 2009 11:49:59 GMT -5
Nah.
As soon as he does Anchorman 2 he'll be back.
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Post by Garee on Nov 22, 2009 11:51:28 GMT -5
No it's not over, as long as they are willing to keep paying him
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Post by Jay Carroll on Nov 22, 2009 12:11:40 GMT -5
That may be true (in regards to his acting ability) but I don't know if I'd quite shovel the dirt on his career yet. After all, there were people who said that Robin Williams' career was over after Popeye flopped both critically and commercially as well. Exactly, and who thought that guy would win an Oscar? So Ferrell had a box-office dud. They happen to every "major" moviestar. Hell even Will Smith, probably the world's biggest moviestar right now, lets just say Ali wasn't a knockout in theatres. I always took Ali to be Will Smith saying, "Screw it, I want to make this movie" or as a passion flick. Point taken, however. I wholeheartedly agree with the post entailing how Will Ferrell would benefit from a style change instead of keeping with his current trajectory.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 22, 2009 12:13:32 GMT -5
Eastbound & Down shows that he can still do it. Think he's better in limited doses these days... unless they actually make Anchorman 2.
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Post by PaperStreetBrigade on Nov 22, 2009 12:17:08 GMT -5
The OP misread the article. It didn't say Ferrell is the most overpaid actor. It just said that he has the lowest return in comparison to the amount of money paid.
The piece was a bit of BS anyway. The actor with the best ratio was Shia Lebouf. That kid has nothing to do with the success of Transformers.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Nov 22, 2009 12:17:22 GMT -5
He doesn't bother me. I liked Land of the Lost.
It would be nice to see something else from him though.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Nov 22, 2009 12:25:31 GMT -5
As somebody mentioned earlier, he only had one major dud. His movie before Land of the Lost, Step Brothers, made $100.4 million.
He'll be just fine.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 22, 2009 12:27:34 GMT -5
I always took Ali to be Will Smith saying, "Screw it, I want to make this movie" or as a passion flick. Smith himself pretty much said that from the beginning
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Post by Citizen Snips on Nov 22, 2009 12:45:13 GMT -5
The OP misread the article. It didn't say Ferrell is the most overpaid actor. It just said that he has the lowest return in comparison to the amount of money paid. The piece was a bit of BS anyway. The actor with the best ratio was Shia Lebouf. That kid has nothing to do with the success of Transformers. Those charts can easily be misinterpreted and used for various points, I agree. Bernard Hill was in both Titanic and The Lord of the Rings. Does this mean Bernard Hill is the most bankable movie star in history?
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Post by markdown474 on Nov 22, 2009 12:47:10 GMT -5
I dont think it's over for him, but I do think he has reached his apex. I *want* to like him, I really do. The guy is a likeable person and can do more than screaming manchild roles (see: Stranger than fiction) but until he attempts to do something outside the box, he wont get any of my money Stranger Than Fiction is kinda the forgotten Will Ferrell movie which is a shame because it was the one that showed he could play it straight. I surprisingly really enjoyed that movie and especially enjoyed Ferrell's performance in it. I've actually liked a lot of Will Ferrell movies (Step Brothers, Anchorman), but his most likable character to me was Harold Crick from Stranger Than Fiction.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Nov 22, 2009 13:00:52 GMT -5
That may be true (in regards to his acting ability) but I don't know if I'd quite shovel the dirt on his career yet. After all, there were people who said that Robin Williams' career was over after Popeye flopped both critically and commercially as well. Exactly, and who thought that guy would win an Oscar? So Ferrell had a box-office dud. They happen to every "major" moviestar. Hell even Will Smith, probably the world's biggest moviestar right now, lets just say Ali wasn't a knockout in theatres. Wild Wild West anyone?
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