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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 26, 2009 15:52:33 GMT -5
That's a clean hit, sorry. Darius Kasparitis made a living out of those hits. Yea and they all dirty hits when he did it too.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 26, 2009 16:29:59 GMT -5
With the Coyotes, you're facing the same problem that so many new locations face; if you're not successful, guess what? You're not going to draw fans.
You don't enter areas of the country that have almost never been hockey hotbeds, set up shop, and then expect people to drop cash on any crappy product you roll out, just because it's on skates.
Would a new team in Quebec (potentially on the way, now that they've agreed to build a new arena) sell a lot of tickets, even if they sucked? Most likely, considering Quebec's hockey tradition.
But Phoenix? Hell no. The best you've got there is some background with, what, the WHA? That barely counts.
Meanwhile, you've got teams in Carolina, Tampa (to an extent), Dallas, and a couple other "non-traditional" locations that have done well, because they've made the playoffs, and/or they've won a Cup.
Hockey can simply be a tough sell in the US. I think you're still not THAT far removed from a generation that looked at how the Habs and Leafs dominated the Original Six era, shrugged, and said "It's a Canadian game, let the Canadians have it"...that's not to blame the Habs and Leafs, that's more blaming many peoples' xenophobia.
Ergo, you can't expect to just, again, set up shop anywhere and draw a crowd, because there isn't a lot of hockey tradition here, outside of Northern New York/Minnesota/Great Lakes region. You have to actually put a decent team on the ice, be competitive, and essentially build a fanbase from scratch.
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Post by slasher911 on Oct 26, 2009 19:01:42 GMT -5
Heh, this wasn't that unexpected. So far, the Phoenix Coyotes home attendance has been: 17,532 - 6,899 - 9,162 - 11,938 - 7,968 (tonight) Is there really, really something better to do in Glendale? I guarentee there is nothing better to do in Milwaukee! Heh, I've wanted Milwaukee to have an NHL franchise for years. Northern New York/Minnesota/Great Lakes region. You have to actually put a decent team on the ice, be competitive, and essentially build a fanbase from scratch. Hey, don't leave out New England. Before Jeremy Jacobs sucked the last bit of life out of the Bruins' heart, hockey was THE sport in Boston for decades, and college hockey has always remained successful here. Hell, even high school games get coverage.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 26, 2009 19:02:19 GMT -5
Looks like the Blackhawks are wearing white at home tonight against the Wild.
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Post by LaParka Loves Candy on Oct 26, 2009 19:06:45 GMT -5
Kovalchuk out 2-4 Weeks. I want to blow my head off.
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Oct 26, 2009 19:43:08 GMT -5
That's a clean hit, sorry. Darius Kasparitis made a living out of those hits. Yea and they all dirty hits when he did it too. Please. Just stop. The emasculation of the NHL is staggering. WTF happened to old time hockey?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 26, 2009 19:47:21 GMT -5
NO NEW EXPANSION TEAMS.
Move Pheonix to Quebec
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Post by ani on Oct 26, 2009 20:21:33 GMT -5
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Post by BR329 on Oct 26, 2009 21:42:26 GMT -5
Seriously nobody cares about them why not move them to crazy Southern Ontario (Or Winnipeg where they never should have left)? Does Betman just not want to succced?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 26, 2009 22:40:41 GMT -5
Oh for f***s sake. Bettman is a DUMBASS
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 26, 2009 23:38:38 GMT -5
Gaborik was taken to the trainers room during the game when seen flexing his leg...
Do the Rangers panic now or later.
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Post by Psicosis Auto Theft on Oct 26, 2009 23:44:21 GMT -5
Seriously nobody cares about them why not move them to crazy Southern Ontario (Or Winnipeg where they never should have left)? Does Betman just not want to succced? I think Bettman's thinking has been since the moment he got the commissioners job is to space out all the locations of teams across America. He, Bettman, probably looked at the early 1990's NHL and thought how strange that you have a cluster of teams in the NorthEast, Mid-West and across Canada but 2 little teams in West Coast in the Los Angeles Kings and San Jose Sharks. He probably said to himself how can rivalries develope with all this space between teams. Remember Bettman come from the NBA with high credit given on how much the attendance and TV ratings increased. It was a huge success for him. There was much coronation before taking the NHL commish job. Now think about the culture of the NBA. Bettman probably thinks that will work with Hockey. That thinking is what what probably keeps Pheonix in the NHL. What I think he doesn't realize is that hockey and basketball appeal to two different points of view and to what some people want to see people move in an athletic competition. I also feel Bettman doesn't get that hockey fans don't really care where the teams are coming from, just give us a good game to watch. Anyway I'm going to end this blabber blog with saying I'm pretty disappointed with all the mettling Bettman and Daly have done. These men get booed by a live NHL audience when they speak in public. Does that happen in the other big sports? Not on a regular basis. Hockey is a very emotional game. It's done all with great spirit in mind. Hockey doesn't need to be #1 at the ticket box office. Being #1 in the hearts of the fans is more where it's at. Bettman and company doesn't seem to get that.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 26, 2009 23:52:32 GMT -5
Yea and they all dirty hits when he did it too. Please. Just stop. The emasculation of the NHL is staggering. WTF happened to old time hockey? Taking a guys knees out is f***in' dirty. ALWAYS. I've played hockey. I've hurt people and been hurt myself. Always clean. Hey, injuries happen, but when you submarine a guy, it's f***in' dirty. No matter who does it. Sorry that Kasper was dirty, but he was, There's a difference between emasculation and playing out with respect.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 27, 2009 8:46:23 GMT -5
Toronto..........won??!!!! ? *Heads for bomb shelter*
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Post by The Lodger on Oct 27, 2009 10:17:39 GMT -5
Please. Just stop. The emasculation of the NHL is staggering. WTF happened to old time hockey? Taking a guys knees out is f***in' dirty. ALWAYS. I've played hockey. I've hurt people and been hurt myself. Always clean. Hey, injuries happen, but when you submarine a guy, it's f***in' dirty. No matter who does it. Sorry that Kasper was dirty, but he was, There's a difference between emasculation and playing out with respect. Yep, that was a dirty hit no question. It doesn't matter what his intention was, going for the knees with your knees, stick or hip is dirty, end of story.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Oct 27, 2009 12:01:03 GMT -5
Good. Im glad they are going to keep the team there. I hate this pompus anti Sun Belt mentalty from some Hockey Fans.
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Post by darthalexander on Oct 27, 2009 12:12:45 GMT -5
Toronto..........won??!!!! ? *Heads for bomb shelter* Hey, if the Leafs end the season in the toilet - how do you think the B's will go with their Christmas present from Burke???
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Post by saintturgeon on Oct 27, 2009 16:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by The Lodger on Oct 27, 2009 16:43:32 GMT -5
STAY AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE TEAM BOODZ!!!!!!!
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Post by saintturgeon on Oct 27, 2009 19:16:25 GMT -5
STAY AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE TEAM BOODZ!!!!!!! If there's something about the flu bug it's, your Avs should have no problem against the Oilers tonight, they are just ravaged by it.
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