Disrespectful and contemptuous taunting

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A classic disrespectful mannerism is spitting in someone's face, which babyface Orton used to do, and which a debuting, apple-spitting Carlito used to do. It goes back to things like Benoit clearing his nostrils on a guy, Scott Hall's toothpick toss, etc..

About the closest thing we have in the current product is Ziggler's "pull back his hair and shake the sweat onto the other guy."

Do you feel this kind of mannerism would add or detract from the current product? Would the unsportsmanlike conduct be unwelcome in today's kid-friendly WWE? Which current on-air WWE talent would benefit from using such mannerisms, if anyone?

[brettappedout (BLM)]

The kid friendly WWE doesn't have anything to do with that in my opinion, I just don't see alot of character that need stuff like that.

Also along with Ziggler, Swagger does push ups ala Steiner during matches

[brotherbruti]

Kofi could pull a big cuca bug from his dreads and smash the juicy insect on his opponent's forehead. That would be pretty disrespectful.

[Bo Rida]

Now they're beginning to acknowledge how rich Ted Dibiase is maybe he should start shoving dollar bills into his opponents mouths like his Dad used to do.
I can understand not wanting to be too much like his father though.

[MyndSkape: A Poor Man's Virgil]

Upon thinking what heel should do what taunt I came across a hilarious visual of Mark Henry on all fours shaking the sweat off of himself vigorously like a dog... like that dog Barkley from Sesame Street.

How's that a taunt for ya?

[Bub (BLM)]

I think Punk yelling and laughing right up in the fans' faces qualifies. I love it when heels do that.

[Kendo]

Kane killing them then humping them at his opponents funeral

[playoldgames]

As well as the toothpick thing, I always marked for Scott Hall just nonchalantly slapping his opponent around the back of the head a few times. Always drew a chuckle from me.

I can't remember where I heard it - it may well have been Lord Alfred Hayes (mayherestinpeace) - but I once heard a commentator say the three most offensive things you can to to another wrestler are slap them in the face, spit on them, or grind their face into the mat. Sounds about right to me.

[Woooooolhouse!]

Nov 11, 2009 8:06:26 GMT -5 @playoldgames said:

I can't remember where I heard it - it may well have been Lord Alfred Hayes (mayherestinpeace) - but I once heard a commentator say the three most offensive things you can to to another wrestler are slap them in the face, spit on them, or grind their face into the mat. Sounds about right to me.

When a wrestler used his opponent's finisher on him- like Shawn Michaels hitting Razor Ramon with th Razor's Edge- Jerry Lawler would always say, "That's the ultimate insult!" I think a heel wrestler with an unestablished finisher of his own could do that, hit the faces with their own finishers to show he was just that much better than them.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 11, 2009 9:21:06 GMT -5 Woooooolhouse! said:

Nov 11, 2009 8:06:26 GMT -5 @playoldgames said:

I can't remember where I heard it - it may well have been Lord Alfred Hayes (mayherestinpeace) - but I once heard a commentator say the three most offensive things you can to to another wrestler are slap them in the face, spit on them, or grind their face into the mat. Sounds about right to me.

When a wrestler used his opponent's finisher on him- like Shawn Michaels hitting Razor Ramon with th Razor's Edge- Jerry Lawler would always say, "That's the ultimate insult!" I think a heel wrestler with an unestablished finisher of his own could do that, hit the faces with their own finishers to show he was just that much better than them.

Lance Storm would do that in ECW. I think he said he didn't have a static finisher until he was in WCW and had been in the business like 10 years.

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Nov 11, 2009 9:53:43 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Nov 11, 2009 9:21:06 GMT -5 Woooooolhouse! said:

When a wrestler used his opponent's finisher on him- like Shawn Michaels hitting Razor Ramon with th Razor's Edge- Jerry Lawler would always say, "That's the ultimate insult!" I think a heel wrestler with an unestablished finisher of his own could do that, hit the faces with their own finishers to show he was just that much better than them.

Lance Storm would do that in ECW. I think he said he didn't have a static finisher until he was in WCW and had been in the business like 10 years.

And he chose like two of the most generic ones possible, though to this day when I think half-crab I think Lance Storm so generic isn't necessarily bad. Now, the Superkick... Yeah, there are people I think of when that move comes up and he's not really one of them.

[angryfan]

Nov 11, 2009 9:55:42 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Nov 11, 2009 9:53:43 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Lance Storm would do that in ECW. I think he said he didn't have a static finisher until he was in WCW and had been in the business like 10 years.

And he chose like two of the most generic ones possible, though to this day when I think half-crab I think Lance Storm so generic isn't necessarily bad. Now, the Superkick... Yeah, there are people I think of when that move comes up and he's not really one of them.

I wonder how many people, when they see the super kick, immediately think of Chris Adams? I'm willing to bet I'm one of the only ones.

[Rorschach]

Nov 11, 2009 10:04:46 GMT -5 angryfan said:

Nov 11, 2009 9:55:42 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

And he chose like two of the most generic ones possible, though to this day when I think half-crab I think Lance Storm so generic isn't necessarily bad. Now, the Superkick... Yeah, there are people I think of when that move comes up and he's not really one of them.

I wonder how many people, when they see the super kick, immediately think of Chris Adams? I'm willing to bet I'm one of the only ones.

Nope. The funny thing is watching older Shawn Michaels matches back when that was just a "crescent kick" and seeing his opponents kick out at 1 or 2.

[noleafclover1980]

I think EVERYONE in ECW had a superkick it seemed.

[Johnny B. Decent]

Nov 11, 2009 21:27:35 GMT -5 noleafclover1980 said:

I think EVERYONE in ECW had a superkick it seemed.

Hell, even Balls Mahoney could do it.

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Nov 11, 2009 21:27:35 GMT -5 noleafclover1980 said:

I think EVERYONE in ECW had a superkick it seemed.

Guess it's kind of like how in WWE for at least your first year or so you have either a spinning neckbreaker or a big boot depending on your size. And like how pre-MVP it was the Overdrive / Playmaker every new guy had.

[Sarsaparilla]

Oh yeah the Overdrive. EVERYONE with short tights who was white debuted with that finisher. Cena probably did it.

Um, it has nothing to do with a kid-friendly product though. They're probably just told to go out there and follow the guidelines as strictly as possible. Don't you think every wrestler just wants to spit on one another?

[Bubble Lead]

Nov 11, 2009 21:27:35 GMT -5 noleafclover1980 said:

I think EVERYONE in ECW had a superkick it seemed.

I liked when WCW was first bought out, and HBK was pretty much a distant memory at the time.

The Superkick was analogous to the DDT today. EVERYONE did it as a midmatch big move.

[skiller]

Nov 12, 2009 22:28:16 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Nov 11, 2009 21:27:35 GMT -5 noleafclover1980 said:

I think EVERYONE in ECW had a superkick it seemed.

Guess it's kind of like how in WWE for at least your first year or so you have either a spinning neckbreaker or a big boot depending on your size. And like how pre-MVP it was the Overdrive / Playmaker every new guy had.

Meanwhile, everyone else did the flatliner.

[Big BosskMan]

Nov 11, 2009 10:04:46 GMT -5 angryfan said:

I wonder how many people, when they see the super kick, immediately think of Chris Adams? I'm willing to bet I'm one of the only ones.

You'd be betting wrong on that. I immediately associate the superkick with two people: Chris Adams and Savannah Jack.