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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 18, 2009 16:05:41 GMT -5
If Dolph is getting buried because he keeps coming close to winning the IC Title but ends up losing, I have a long list of wrestlers who would like to volunteer for a burial.
Getting title shots and lots of TV time is nowhere near the definition of a burial.
Also, people are conveniently ignoring that this was a three fall match where Ziggler pinned the current IC champion during one of the falls. Do you think the average WWE fan cares if Ziggler loses his title shots and will now never see him being a credible wrestler as a result? Talk about overreacting.
He could get another title shot next month and win. Nobody would care that he lost the past 5 times. Thats how WWE works. Especially modern WWE. Your wins are infinitely more important than any losses. Nobody remembers losses but everyone remembers wins.
If Dolph starts losing to jobbers every week then you have cause for concern. Until then, no.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 18, 2009 16:16:13 GMT -5
I'm really puzzled over the CM Punk/Our Truth angle. The WWE is making people hate a guy that's morally correct. Punk's right. No matter how much he preaches, he's right. That stuff will eventually kill you. Cancer, liver disease/failure, etc. is nothing to sneeze at. Booing a guy that doesn't want you to get any of that is kind of insane. I guess that's the society we live in. That is SUCH an oversimplification of a complex argument. Punk is a preachy guy who says you should never have any fun because there is a chance it could hurt you. He also erroneously and arrogantly assumes every single person in the crowd drinks, smokes, and takes drugs any chance they get. He is obviously extolling the benefits of good life choices, but doing it in a completely wrong, arrogant, and annoying way. That doesn't make him right at all. It makes him a dick. A heel could come out every week and tell people they should never get in a car and drive anywhere because theres a chance they may get in an accident and die. He could cite statistics and mock the crowd for taking risks with their life every single day, everytime they sit down to drive to work. He would be right then, too. Does that mean anyone should listen to him? Punks playing the role of a really hardline straight edge person who cant see the difference between someone who has a couple beers and an alcoholic junky. He is an extremist that puts everyone in the same category and cannot discern between the two or see that there isn't anything wrong with the guy who has a couple to relax during the week. He also is flat out TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO because he WANTS TO BE RIGHT. Not because he cares about anyone. Pretty obvious to me.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 18, 2009 17:10:10 GMT -5
I'm really puzzled over the CM Punk/Our Truth angle. The WWE is making people hate a guy that's morally correct. Punk's right. No matter how much he preaches, he's right. That stuff will eventually kill you. Cancer, liver disease/failure, etc. is nothing to sneeze at. Booing a guy that doesn't want you to get any of that is kind of insane. I guess that's the society we live in. There's plenty of stuff that can give you cancer, including your genes.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 18, 2009 17:51:16 GMT -5
Basketball Jones. ;D He gets Knuckleball Schwartz to manage him, bring back Bam Neely as his tag team partner and then I go in a corner and feel bad for suggesting these things.
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Post by S-Chrome on Nov 18, 2009 18:29:28 GMT -5
That is SUCH an oversimplification of a complex argument. Punk is a preachy guy who says you should never have any fun because there is a chance it could hurt you. He also erroneously and arrogantly assumes every single person in the crowd drinks, smokes, and takes drugs any chance they get. He is obviously extolling the benefits of good life choices, but doing it in a completely wrong, arrogant, and annoying way. That doesn't make him right at all. It makes him a dick. A heel could come out every week and tell people they should never get in a car and drive anywhere because theres a chance they may get in an accident and die. He could cite statistics and mock the crowd for taking risks with their life every single day, everytime they sit down to drive to work. He would be right then, too. Does that mean anyone should listen to him? Punks playing the role of a really hardline straight edge person who cant see the difference between someone who has a couple beers and an alcoholic junky. He is an extremist that puts everyone in the same category and cannot discern between the two or see that there isn't anything wrong with the guy who has a couple to relax during the week. He also is flat out TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO because he WANTS TO BE RIGHT. Not because he cares about anyone. Pretty obvious to me. Excellence.
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Post by Overly large testicles on Nov 18, 2009 20:46:50 GMT -5
Anyone else really starting to hate the Bat Is Tame filter? Yes. This is stupid. I haven't watched Smackdown in a while and thought this was some new wrestler. Sorry I'm not hip to the board in-jokes.
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Steveweiser
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Mickie Mickie You're So Fine... Hey Mickie!
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 19, 2009 11:56:15 GMT -5
Really hoping all this pee taking means that Mickie wins the title, this just buries her if McCool hangs onto the title. Anyway, at least the Divas have a full blown storyline now. I'm sorry... I've re-read this a dozen times and re-read the Spoilers, too... what do you mean "pee taking?" Did McCool take Mickie's "pee" when she was in the ring? Because that is a heel move if I've ever seen one. Making fun of her - some even say "taking the Mickie".
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Post by greeby on Nov 19, 2009 20:28:42 GMT -5
Strange to say it, but out of the two, Raw has actually done better with their secondary title. For six months they built Kofi up by having him take on just about everybody: MVP, Matt Hardy, Regal, Swagger, Carlito, Primo, Big Show, Bourne and of course Miz. Plus, while it's early days yet, Miz is facing Bourne and MVP on TV while building up a fued with Swagger and his cross-brand fued with Morrison.
When is WWE going to learn that having the principals face each other week after week does not create interest
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Post by Big L on Nov 20, 2009 2:39:00 GMT -5
Lookn 4ward to seeing this sho
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