mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Nov 27, 2009 17:33:03 GMT -5
I'm seeing a whole lot of "Cena vs." for a guy who's suppose to be the "Biggest star of the Decade" there's still a lot of Cena hate on the net. If people don't like a guy, or the character a guy is playing then of course the feuds won't work, unless you're talking the best booked feud in years. I'm a fan of Cena, but didn't like the rapper character and rarely liked any of his feuds.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 27, 2009 17:34:21 GMT -5
I'm seeing a whole lot of "Cena vs." for a guy who's suppose to be the "Biggest star of the Decade" The only Cena feud that ever delivered to me was vs. Edge.
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Post by dlg3000 on Nov 27, 2009 17:50:51 GMT -5
I like Cena, but the matches that he had with the Big Show I found dull. I also agree with the poster who mentioned HHH vs Randy Orton. Ironically, the feud started off well to me, but the matches especiall the one at WM 25, were quite dull.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 27, 2009 21:26:03 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels. That feud was brutal to watch.
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Dub H
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2009 21:29:46 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels. That feud was brutal to watch. You mena Shawn overselling Hogan dont work for you?
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Post by Jay Carroll on Nov 27, 2009 22:14:04 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels. That feud was brutal to watch. You mena Shawn overselling Hogan dont work for you? The match itself wasn't much to write home about, due to Shawn's comedic selling (either he was selling for Hogan in an attempt to emulate how people usually sold for Hogan, or he was overselling to show how pissed he was about being out-politicked by Hogan, either way), but the promos that lead up to said match were great, as was the method of jump-starting the feud. Hogan getting pwn'd on the Fourth of July ruled. Remember when Shawn was coked out of his mind half the time, and drew heat like a cartoonist sketching the Sun? He tapped into that a week later and royally pissed off Montreal one last time.
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 27, 2009 22:16:36 GMT -5
I'm seeing a whole lot of "Cena vs." for a guy who's suppose to be the "Biggest star of the Decade" The thing is nearly all of his PPV matches are good/great, but a fair number of the feuds just don't click. Like I said, I remember being bored to death with his feuds with Jericho and Angle (and Masters for a brief time too) in 05. The matches were fine though.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Nov 28, 2009 1:46:15 GMT -5
I really don't get the hate for the HHH/Orton deal. For once, we have a good solid long-term feud that even goes back and touches on things that happened several years ago, rather than pretending it's something fresh and new every time. I happen to mark big-time for long-running stories no matter how ridiculous the current (or what happened a while back this year anyway) promos may be.
What I really don't buy is DX not being together. I know they are right now, but everyone seems to think the breakup / feud is inevitable. HHH and HBK are basically brothers, and I can't ever understand trying to believe that the two of them would go after one another, outside of something really incredibly dastardly that one could do to the other for some strange reason.
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Post by barley96 on Nov 28, 2009 1:51:25 GMT -5
CM Punk vs. Undertaker didn't work at all, Punk's angle on the whole thing (drugged up zombies actually believing in the magic tricks and smoke and mirrors of Taker) was far-fetched, the matches weren't very good, and Taker just looked too dominant. Sometimes the way each guy is booked can make a feud suck, chickens*** heel vs. unstoppable (but hobbled) supernatural force did not goo well. Agreed. That was probably the worst World Title feud since Khali vs. Batista. I thought I was going to be the only one to mention this. Though this is not the worst rivalry of recent memory (that dishonor goes to Kane vs The Great Khali) it was definately the most disappointing.
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Stotty
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Post by Stotty on Nov 28, 2009 2:54:21 GMT -5
Bret vs Shawn
I just could never buy that their hatred was legitimate
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Post by Big L on Nov 28, 2009 3:03:05 GMT -5
I'm gnna have to disagree on the batista/taker feud not working I believe it'll b more interesting this time since daves a heel now I think it's gonna b more interesting no matter how long or short the feud is...just my opinion
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Post by fw91 on Nov 28, 2009 3:19:33 GMT -5
kane vs khali. so bad they did it twice!
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 28, 2009 5:30:42 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels. That feud was brutal to watch. You mena Shawn overselling Hogan dont work for you? The whole feud just seemed rushed and way too forced. Then on Raw the night after the match, Michaels blew it off like the whole thing was a joke.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 28, 2009 6:36:41 GMT -5
I really don't get the hate for the HHH/Orton deal. For once, we have a good solid long-term feud that even goes back and touches on things that happened several years ago, rather than pretending it's something fresh and new every time. I happen to mark big-time for long-running stories no matter how ridiculous the current (or what happened a while back this year anyway) promos may be. It doesn't work because its always been used to get the wrong guy over. Its a feud that should be an epic stepping-stone for Orton; a hard fought conquest that moves him to the next stratosphere. But for whatever reason, for 5 straight years, in the end, HHH always goes over and almost always goes over in dominating fashion, heel or face. Orton is his perpetual punching bag.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 10:21:49 GMT -5
I really don't get the hate for the HHH/Orton deal. For once, we have a good solid long-term feud that even goes back and touches on things that happened several years ago, rather than pretending it's something fresh and new every time. I happen to mark big-time for long-running stories no matter how ridiculous the current (or what happened a while back this year anyway) promos may be. It doesn't work because its always been used to get the wrong guy over. Its a feud that should be an epic stepping-stone for Orton; a hard fought conquest that moves him to the next stratosphere. But for whatever reason, for 5 straight years, in the end, HHH always goes over and almost always goes over in dominating fashion, heel or face. Orton is his perpetual punching bag. I always thought that. It's been five years, but as always, Triple H generally will win the feuds between the two. It was always used as a vehicle to put Triple H over, when it should've been used to catapult Orton to greater things. Well, he has, but he had to spend 2 years over on SmackDown! and a 9-month feud with the Undertaker to help set that up, when you could've done that in a fraction of the time without having Orton move brands.
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Post by RKTaker on Nov 28, 2009 10:31:13 GMT -5
mike knox and rey mysterio where knox kept beating up rey i don't even think there's a reason behind it
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Post by The G.O.A.T. on Nov 28, 2009 10:36:14 GMT -5
I'm seeing a whole lot of "Cena vs." for a guy who's suppose to be the "Biggest star of the Decade" The only Cena feud that ever delivered to me was vs. Edge. that
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Post by Full of IT. on Nov 28, 2009 10:47:38 GMT -5
Pretty sure I just had a seizure reading Tenacious 's post.
I'd have to agree with Matt and Jeff. Though their feud was pretty "meh", I remember being really excited to see their WM match, thinking it would be them that would steal the show... and I was wrong. I was so disappointed in that match.
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Post by diegorivera on Nov 28, 2009 11:25:19 GMT -5
Save for Edge, Cena vs *insert other big star here* hasn't worked. Angle and Jericho had too much of the older fan/smark support, HHH essentially buried the guy verbally to the point that even when he won, Cena came off as lucky rather than on HHH's level (I blame that more on creative and Cena's unwillingness to go against the grain and/or zing HHH back than any "borkstaj powahz!" HHH has,) and Orton/Cena had terribly misfired build up and there were just too many match ups between the two in a short time.
Aside from Edge, Cena vs HBK was really good, abet a bit brief. Cena vs Umaga and Cena vs Khali were both better than they had any right to be. Cena vs JBL has had moments although they were on again, off again. One that's often forgotten is Cena vs ECW. Most harp on him making Sabu tap out, but ONS 2 erases any ill feeling I could have for that feud. That night it was Cena vs the most visceral, angry, critical and hateful fans in wrestling and Cena held his own, even earned a small measure of respect from them, which is saying a lot considering these were ECW fans and they probably would have cheered Cena being publicly lynched.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 11:26:54 GMT -5
CM Punk vs. Undertaker didn't work at all, Punk's angle on the whole thing (drugged up zombies actually believing in the magic tricks and smoke and mirrors of Taker) was far-fetched, the matches weren't very good, and Taker just looked too dominant. Sometimes the way each guy is booked can make a feud suck, chickens*** heel vs. unstoppable (but hobbled) supernatural force did not goo well. The worked with Jeff Hardy, but once Punk took on 'Taker, that promo style showed it's weakness. I mean, Punk could've simply gone the "I don't buy into your methods, and I'm not afraid" approach that some guys did (such as Shawn Michaels), but he had to go that far to compare seeing Undertaker to consuming drugs? Ever since, Punk's promos have gone from "epic" to dull. And, Punk also started to become a chicken**** heel (it wasn't until last night that it was completely confirmed).
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