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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 2, 2010 12:08:51 GMT -5
Plus, he lost his cynical edge as he got successful. Just look at "THX 1138": it's very bleak even though it ends on a sort of positive not. Look at "A New Hope" and "Empire Strikes Back": in the former, you have Gran Moff Tarkin just having a whole planet destroyed. And, "Empire" was The Empire wins for 2 hours: Hoth gets taken over, Han is frozen and taken to Jabba, and Luke gets his hand chopped off and learns that Vader's his father. Then, by "Return Of The Jedi," Lucas was rich. And, we got Ewoks. Then, he got richer, and we got "Howard The Duck." Then, he becomes one of the richest producers of all time, and we get the Prequels. The richer he got, the happier he got, the less cynical he got, and the crappier his movies got. I know just makes me annoyed, the edgiest thing he did was have Anakin kill child-er-younglings in ROTS. and I'd argue that the seriousness of that scene was ruined by the inherent funniness of the word "younglings".
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 12:48:19 GMT -5
I know just makes me annoyed, the edgiest thing he did was have Anakin kill child-er-younglings in ROTS. and I'd argue that the seriousness of that scene was ruined by the inherent funniness of the word "younglings". Makes me think of him as killing the Groundlings or Young Ones. *wikis* Wait, Chris Jericho was in the Groundlings? Is that actually true?! *looks up more* Oh, neat, even if it was a short stint.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 12:59:53 GMT -5
Metallica since Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine Er...you mean Metallica since The Black Album. I'm going to stray into the uncool and say that Death Magnetic was actually a good upturn for them though. I do believe that Linkin Park wins this by the way. Is it really uncool to say Death Magnetic was good? That album kicked ass! But I think I'm in a minority because I also didn't hate St. Anger
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Post by nickcave on Jan 2, 2010 16:46:53 GMT -5
1. A lot of of these guys are getting old. Very few artists survive the transition from youth to old age. I mean, it's hard to be young and edgy when you are worried about your kids. 2. Art is ultimately a reflection of the soul of the artist, and it's well known that the soul of modern man is sick. Bob Dylan has made some of his best albums in the 2000s and he approaching 70...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 22:44:20 GMT -5
except Linkin Park weren't even good in the first place. f***ing boy band with guitars. Incorrect. Also, there are some bands who actually ARE boy bands with guitars that are very good. 1. A lot of of these guys are getting old. Very few artists survive the transition from youth to old age. I mean, it's hard to be young and edgy when you are worried about your kids. 2. Art is ultimately a reflection of the soul of the artist, and it's well known that the soul of modern man is sick. Bob Dylan has made some of his best albums in the 2000s and he approaching 70... Dylan was never really able to sing; nowadays though he just sounds like a car ran over his vocal cords.
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Post by Grendel on Jan 3, 2010 22:46:24 GMT -5
Ben Kingsley. He won the Oscar for his portrayal of Ghandi, but the last movie I saw him in was BloodRayne ... ;D
J/K, but how the hell does that happen?
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jan 3, 2010 22:50:53 GMT -5
Er...you mean Metallica since The Black Album. I'm going to stray into the uncool and say that Death Magnetic was actually a good upturn for them though. I do believe that Linkin Park wins this by the way. Is it really uncool to say Death Magnetic was good? That album kicked ass! But I think I'm in a minority because I also didn't hate St. Anger I agree with both of these things. I was actually pretty fond of St. Anger. It's not their best album by any stretch of the imagination...but it's good. And Death Magnetic is probably in my top five Metallica albums. It kicks that much ass.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 3, 2010 22:55:12 GMT -5
I was going to title this "Directors on the Decline," but why not all artists: Filmmakers, authors, singers, bands, whatever? Surely we all think of a certain one of them being going downhill as we speak compared to past days of triumph. But could they be defended? For example: Steven Spielberg - Perhaps the most popular filmmaker to ever live (heck Life even named him the most influential person of his generation), 2000s hasn't exactly been that kind for The Beard. The Terminal was a slightly awful "comedy." War of the Worlds and Minority Report were forgettable. And geeks will never let him live down "Nuke the Fridge" in reference to a sequel to a beloved adventure franchise. In Defense: A.I. has as many supporters as detractors (I'm a fan), though I can see why people have problems with it. Thought Munich was a tight good thriller if with some rather awkward moments that can't be excused. His only truely terrific movie of the decade that people associate along with the Beard's best? Catch Me If You Can. Memorable soundtrack, iconic opening credits, very joyful cat and mouse / cop and crook narrative, DiCaprio proving he could survive after Titanic, and most of all....Spielberg was obviously having fun. Remember that? James Cameron - What do his first movies in The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, T2 have in common? Sure good/great imaginative FX, action adventure, but also good solid decent stories. You cared about those people, whether a robot, Ed Harris, Sigourney Weaver, or Linda Hamilton and her mullet. I would even to an extent include his script for Strange Days. His last few: True Lies, Titanic, and now Avatar. Cameron is still tops with the FX and action, but Jim what hapened to your writing? Its like you figure now that audiences don't care about stories or people ultimately. Just get an outline with underdeveloped broad archetypes and lack plotting, and your gigantic (and very expensive) FX action spectacle will carry the weight. You know, like a Michael Bay movie but not dumb. OK, not as dumb. I know for sure I'm not the only Crapper who thought with Avatar, never once cared for the characters or got hooked truely by that story. In Defense: Titanic is the #1 box office hit of all time. Even Batman couldn't beat the boat. Avatar has been out for only 20 days, and already has made $745 million (!) around the globe. Will break a billion by the end of the month, and probably end up the #2 biggest hit. So you know, in spite of my crapping at Cameron, surely he must be doing something right when he makes the two biggest hits in history. Suck it Transformers. ;D I like The Terminal. Can't really think of anything right now, but I'm sure I will eventually.
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Post by Hypnotix on Jan 3, 2010 23:04:02 GMT -5
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes should probably make the list. It looks like a pregnancy of convenience. She gets knocked up, they fall in love and get married. Tom hopes it may keep him young, Katie hopes it may boost her career, but thanks to Tom's Oprah appearance, and pictures of Katie sporting some mean cold sores, both seem to have become a rolling punchline.
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Post by paulbearer on Jan 4, 2010 20:25:10 GMT -5
Heather Locklear (Dynasty , TJ Hooker , Melrose , Spin City.......and then pretty much stop) Bronson Pinchot M*A*S*H actors Adam West Burt Ward (offered the Graduate) Lazenby James Tien & other 70s kung fu stars
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 4, 2010 22:03:53 GMT -5
Brian Michael Bendis. guy used to be thought of as untouchable but nowadays he's considered a punchline whose run on Avengers gets nothing but facepalms. too bad because when he's in his element (that is, NOT writing Avengers) he's still really good.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 5, 2010 1:22:50 GMT -5
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes should probably make the list. It looks like a pregnancy of convenience. She gets knocked up, they fall in love and get married. Tom hopes it may keep him young, Katie hopes it may boost her career, but thanks to Tom's Oprah appearance, and pictures of Katie sporting some mean cold sores, both seem to have become a rolling punchline. There's more to it than just that. Whatever talent Holmes may have had was sucked away the instant she hooked up with Tom. And as for him, he basically showed us that he's been as crazy as a bed bug for decades but it took us this long to notice.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Jan 5, 2010 1:32:00 GMT -5
Sunrise Studios as a whole
Yes thanks alot for churning out SEED Destiny and choosing to ruin 00 Season 2 by pandering to people bitching the show wasn't UC enough. Goddamn Mister Bushido.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 5, 2010 9:18:52 GMT -5
Well I look at Metallica as a band who went down and Death Magentic was a raise into the up direction because it was a much better album then the last one. They didn't fall that bad before St. Anger but after people where hard on them. Now there last ablum was a much better and raised them up.
Lohan I agree about. Everyone was so high on her. Mean Girl didn't live to the hype on how good she was supost to be. Everyone though she was extremely hot. But after that Herbie movie she went down fast. She got to skinny and then got all caught up in the party life.
Here one I thought off. Everyone in the Blue Collar comedy tours not named Jeff Foxworthy. Think about it. After that Tour ended what happened. Larry the Cable guy had a couple movies go into theaters and they where not that funny. The a couple right to DVD. Now he hardly talked about.
Ron White: He fell off the face of earth it seemed like after "Can't fix Stupid".
Bill Engval (Sp?) Had a failed sitcom and I think one special since the tour. Last couple years nothing.
Foxworthy only has his game show. But being it still going I call it having some success. The rest not so much. It really amazing how popular they where and how fast it went down.
Linkin Park I don't agree with for the fact that I never thought that there where that big to begin with. Maybe I'm wrong on that. Never really followed them that much.
What about the earily 90's queens of pop group and everyone else not named Justin in the Boy band era. They all fell hard and not to say I'm complaining because I couldn't stand the music. But I couldn't go anywhere without hearing about them. Christina hasn't done anything since having a kid. Britney had a hard falling that she started to recover from I think. Mandy Moore dispeared. Jessica only get talked about dating people. Music career went to crap.
All the people in the boy bands not name Justin all went to crap. Not complaing may I had but just a fact. Come to think about it just about everyone who was popular in like 00 most of the music Artist careers are basicly dead now.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 5, 2010 9:39:22 GMT -5
They haven't been mentioned yet, but Weezer.
They've gone from making great guitar-driven albums to the overproduced crap that is Raditude. There are maybe two songs on Raditude I like, but they don't sound like Weezer songs.
They haven't made anything worth a damn since Maladroit, which was awesome. And it's too bad The Red Album sucked; I was really high on it after hearing 'Pork and Beans'.
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Post by captaineasychord on Jan 5, 2010 12:33:40 GMT -5
Most of those mentioned have already declined as I see it. Someone I see as on the cusp of a Travolta-esque slide into mediocrity is Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I'll just say "Pirate Radio" and leave it at that. Another candidate would be Jerry Seinfeld. "The Marriage Ref" or whatever his new project is sounds like something that he would lampoon in his act, not star in.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Jan 5, 2010 17:15:20 GMT -5
Bill Engvall did a pretty good hour-long standup DVD called Aged & Confused this year, so he's still out and working.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 5, 2010 20:49:11 GMT -5
3 pages and no Kevin Costner?
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Post by toddpolt on Jan 5, 2010 21:14:20 GMT -5
3 pages and no Kevin Costner? because he already declined to the bottom. That said, Open Range was pretty awesome. Rest of the decade for Costner?
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 5, 2010 21:30:37 GMT -5
3 pages and no Kevin Costner? because he already declined to the bottom. That said, Open Range was pretty awesome. Rest of the decade for Costner? I kind of disagree with that.....Mr. Brooks was pretty damn good also. I mean, who would think that Costner could pull off playing a serial killer so well. He was DAMN creepy in that.
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