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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 30, 2009 10:47:20 GMT -5
I would think a major reason is to "start the new year with a bang", but it's possible TNA plays a part in it. Not that it'd be "fear' as much as a matter of pride. Sort of a "sit back there, sonny boy, we'll show you how it's done in the big leagues". Because Midget Main Events=Big Leagues. If the WWE can put on great shows, why havn't they? That's either being lazy, or they just can't. It's not like they can just go "Ya know, how about we have RAW stop sucking?" They THINK that RAW is a good show already. So I really doubt they have some kind of "well we can be awesome, but lets not bother. Oh wait, TNA is on Monday, lets be awesome." attitude.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Dec 30, 2009 10:49:55 GMT -5
Because if they're awesome every week, the good shows will be the ones we say will suck. Keep the public wanting more. That's the first rule of show business.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 30, 2009 10:54:01 GMT -5
I would think a major reason is to "start the new year with a bang", but it's possible TNA plays a part in it. Not that it'd be "fear' as much as a matter of pride. Sort of a "sit back there, sonny boy, we'll show you how it's done in the big leagues". Because Midget Main Events=Big Leagues. If the WWE can put on great shows, why havn't they? That's either being lazy, or they just can't. It's not like they can just go "Ya know, how about we have RAW stop sucking?" They THINK that RAW is a good show already. So I really doubt they have some kind of "well we can be awesome, but lets not bother. Oh wait, TNA is on Monday, lets be awesome." attitude. I'm sure complacency has been an issue. Granted, your example isn't the best because besides this run in, which wasn't even the main event, I don't think Hornswoggle has involved himself in the big matches(thankfully, I have not seen last week's Raw, nor do I plan to.)
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Post by glory on Dec 30, 2009 10:54:14 GMT -5
Raw will win the ratings by a huge margin regardless. If TNA draws a 1.0 rating on Monday they will have succeeded. If Raw draws in the 3.0-3.9 range, I would consider that a failure given Bret's comeback. Bret was never a huge draw, but given the circumstances in which he left, he should be able to bring some interest. Then again, this is about 10 years too late. Most of the fanbase has turned over and probably don't care about Montreal.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 30, 2009 11:11:34 GMT -5
I don't see how this is even considered a stacked show or how having yet another repeat of DX vs Jerishow and Kofi vs Orton is considered pulling out all the stops. Those are pretty decently star studded matches for a free show, given both are supposed to be "this is it, final showdowns". That and obviously Bret hosting, the inevitable showdown with Shawn and/or Vince that hasn't happened on the air in more than 12 years.
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Post by bob on Dec 30, 2009 11:13:52 GMT -5
is it the sole reason....probably not
I'm guessing they wanted to get the new year off with a bang thus Bret as the host
as for everything else I'm guessing Vince wants to crush TNA likea bug
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Post by kingoftheiwc on Dec 30, 2009 11:35:29 GMT -5
I think Bret's return was planned and with MNF gone and a somewhat non ratings matchup for the Fiesta Bowl, RAW wants to capitalize on getting those football viewers back and build up to mania on Monday. I see Bret interfering in the tag match costing DX the belts and then becoming a manager until Mania for Jerishow.
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Post by BlackJackRobby on Dec 30, 2009 22:47:45 GMT -5
Another thought that Vince and company could be having is the fact that WCW wasn't doing very good ratings on TBS.
This is probably due to the show being on Saturday at or horrid time slot, but what the heck it was that way for over twenty years.
When WCW was put on Monday with no Raw they go equal to Raw ratings, and from that point on fought with Raw and essentially got the better of them. If you look at the early ratings not just the NWO 96-98 ratings but even before then Raw was getting beat almost every other week by WCW.
So with the tremendous advertising by Spike, WWE probably does not want to be caught with there pants down ever again.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Dec 30, 2009 22:51:57 GMT -5
You guys can say what you want, but let's facde it, TNA cannot put a dent to WWE.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 30, 2009 22:57:17 GMT -5
I think it is. Orton/Kofi was, for all intents and purposes, over at TLC and now the heel who won clean wants another match? Same for DX/JeriShow, the night after TLC, they had their usual blowoff and, now they get another shot and, its not on PPV? Hell, if Cena wasn't going to be in AZ that night, I would bet good money on them pushing the World Title rematch back to 1/4 instead of this week.
As far as Hart goes, it's odd. They seem to be building to McMahon/Taker back in Oct. then all of a sudden it's dropped with no mention, they start Michaels/Taker II and, they start the build to Hart returning a few weeks later. I am not saying Hart was done because of Hogan and TNA but, I think they caused the start to be rushed.
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Post by rrm15 on Dec 30, 2009 23:18:16 GMT -5
I don't think its the exclusive reason, but there is no doubt that TNA at the very least has the WWE's attention. They're probably not worried about losing a ratings battle, but why not squash them coming right out of the gate?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 30, 2009 23:23:27 GMT -5
I don't think its the exclusive reason, but there is no doubt that TNA at the very least has the WWE's attention. They're probably not worried about losing a ratings battle, but why not squash them coming right out of the gate? Exactly, WCW caught them with their pants down, no way they let TNA do the same.
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Post by . on Dec 30, 2009 23:38:17 GMT -5
I don't think its the exclusive reason, but there is no doubt that TNA at the very least has the WWE's attention. They're probably not worried about losing a ratings battle, but why not squash them coming right out of the gate? Exactly, WCW caught them with their pants down, no way they let TNA do the same. For 84 straight weeks? hardly, WcW simply offered a far better product, unfortunately they offered that same product over and over and over again.......hmmm this sounds familar...
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 30, 2009 23:41:46 GMT -5
Exactly, WCW caught them with their pants down, no way they let TNA do the same. For 84 straight weeks? hardly I am saying they didn't take WCW seriously when they ran the first Nitro and it bit them bad. They are not going to make the same mistake twice. This may not be a permanent move but, they are not wanting anyone to catch TNA and start watching them no matter when they air.
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Post by KingPopper on Dec 30, 2009 23:48:34 GMT -5
Its a stacked Raw for sure. Bret Hart, two announced ppv level matches. Sure I would say WWE wants to put TNA in their place in the worst way, but its not like its triple stacked 3 hour, all three brands, mega show, thats when I think WWE would be worried though I still havn't ruled out Taker being there though.
But I still beleave TNA could put on their best show ever, and WWE could show Hornswoggle dryhumping Big Dick Johnson for 2 hours and still get 3x the ratings.
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Post by . on Dec 30, 2009 23:49:40 GMT -5
For 84 straight weeks? hardly I am saying they didn't take WCW seriously when they ran the first Nitro and it bit them bad. They are not going to make the same mistake twice. This may not be a permanent move but, they are not wanting anyone to catch TNA and start watching them no matter when they air. Then they need to up there game, and while 30 minute segments with midget bowling is fun and all it's not going to persuade there older viewers into staying especially if there is a more *mature* alternative.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 31, 2009 5:46:14 GMT -5
Nope, but I think it's partly the reason.
The other part being it's the start of the year. Jan-May always tends to be WWE's best time in terms of ratings and creativity, the Rumble-NWO-Wrestlemania-Backlash run always seems to focus the minds a lot more than the drifting months later in the year.
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