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Post by Shy Guy on Nov 3, 2009 12:00:53 GMT -5
i think before anyone gets in the wrestling business, they should at least know who the most common characters are.
sunny at one point was the most downloaded woman on the internet. that's huge. lacey may not need to know that specific fact, but to have a little knowledge on the men and women that helped pave the way for you would be helpful.
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 3, 2009 12:09:32 GMT -5
diva-dirt.com took Lacey's side in this and said she had the perfect comment back. She took the high road and didn't respond to Sunny with equal crass. She didn't bring up Sunny's own very troubled past even though she could have. How could Lacey bring it up if she knows nothing about Sunny or her career? It might be accidental class
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Post by ani on Nov 3, 2009 14:18:58 GMT -5
Sunny's comments were bad...
But how does a female in the business not know who she is? Both look horrible here.
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Post by The Verdict on Nov 3, 2009 15:56:41 GMT -5
lacey and Teddy hart should marry
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Nov 3, 2009 16:15:33 GMT -5
What a moron.
How does she NOT know who Sunny is?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 18:32:32 GMT -5
Some salient points:
* Lacey knows full well who Sunny is, I'm sure. Her "I don't know who she is" would be like Gorilla Monsoon saying "now, let's go to the back with Todd Pettengill" and Bobby Heenan responding "Who?"
* Lacey von Erich is all but entirely inept in the ring. She has enough personality to be a valet. With the same dispassion that I say "I presently lack the talent to be a professional wrestler", Lacey von Erich presently lacks the talent to be a professional wrestler.
* Sunny's comments were insanely bitchy, mean-spirited, spiteful, and completely inappropriate on any number of levels.
* There is a vast number of responses LVE could have taken to Sunny's comments. The one LVE took ranks among the highest in terms of class, maturity and stoic dispassion. Whether she choose that response by accident is irrelevant. She chose her response properly and deserves credit for it.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 3, 2009 18:56:00 GMT -5
Honestly, I think this is one of those "they're both jerks" scenarios.
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Post by Young Game on Nov 3, 2009 18:58:43 GMT -5
So who's really the Bitchiest Banana here?
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 3, 2009 19:17:51 GMT -5
So who's really the Bitchiest Banana here?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 3, 2009 19:29:27 GMT -5
Agreed. I also don't see the big deal about her comments on Angelina, unless she said something more than what the above poster posted. Well, it's pretty hypocritical of her to bash someone for making comments about someone she's never met online, when she just did the same thing a month earlier, no? How did she "bash" Angelina, exactly? By saying that she didn't think Angelina was a good fit for the Beautiful People? It's an opinion on a wrestling related subject; we all have 'em, and I doubt it's bashing if I was to say something like "I don't think HBK fits the DX stuff at all". You may not agree with it, but that's hardly cause for saying that it was a "bash". Was it by saying that she's heard enough about Angelina to not want to meet her? While such a comment isn't sunshine and buttercups, I don't see that as a "bash". It's no different than us commenting on how we might not like to meet one wrestler/celebrity or another because those who have didn't say good things. Might not have been necessary for her to comment on that, but it's hardly on the same level as Sunny's malicious comments.
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Post by Bobafett on Nov 3, 2009 19:35:22 GMT -5
Well, it's pretty hypocritical of her to bash someone for making comments about someone she's never met online, when she just did the same thing a month earlier, no? How did she "bash" Angelina, exactly? By saying that she didn't think Angelina was a good fit for the Beautiful People? It's an opinion on a wrestling related subject; we all have 'em, and I doubt it's bashing if I was to say something like "I don't think HBK fits the DX stuff at all". You may not agree with it, but that's hardly cause for saying that it was a "bash". Was it by saying that she's heard enough about Angelina to not want to meet her? While such a comment isn't sunshine and buttercups, I don't see that as a "bash". It's no different than us commenting on how we might not like to meet one wrestler/celebrity or another because those who have didn't say good things. Might not have been necessary for her to comment on that, but it's hardly on the same level as Sunny's malicious comments. For all we know Angelina could have been either nasty or done some things Lacey just plain didn't think was appropriate backstage, hence the "heard enough to not want to know" comment
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 3, 2009 19:39:06 GMT -5
At the time of her release from WWE, I had read of some behavior problems out of then Angel Williams but can't find proof of this anywhere now.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 3, 2009 19:42:25 GMT -5
Lacey's comments seemed too far over the top for me to be real -- felt like it was *in character* thing to do.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Nov 3, 2009 20:21:19 GMT -5
I doubt that she doesn't know who sunny was, obviusly she made the right answer, or everybody in the IWC was expecting that she started to talk about the entire life of sunny incluiding all the drugs just in defense?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 20:28:55 GMT -5
Lacey's comments seemed too far over the top for me to be real -- felt like it was *in character* thing to do. The Miami Herald stuff I posted? She did that completely our of character and, without TNA's approval. She had to back track and claim she was drunk when she did the interview.
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Post by segaz on Nov 3, 2009 20:32:37 GMT -5
While I agree with ya that the line about the family issues is crossing a major line, it'd be safe to say that Tammy hasn't exactly been in her right mind for a few years. Drug use plus her own emotional trauma with Candido pretty much took a bus that was already headed for a cliff and put in into overdrive. Sytch, to me, is a person who has a lot of anger towards the business for tossing her aside pretty calously (partially her doing, of course, but there were warning signs for years) and then took away the one constant she had in her life (Candido), albeit through a freak accident. So you've got a woman that is rapidly becoming unhinged, basedon the fact that the notoriety and feeling of importance she craves (not necessarily ego, just the normal human need to feel wanted) can only be achieved through the connection to wrestling. Thus, to get what she needs, she has to rely on what she's come to hate. As understandable as all that is, and she has gone through a tonne of crap in her lifetime, I can't use it as a justification for what she said on those statuses. There is dislike for the business and what it is and then there's just...wanting someone to die for no good reason. LOL. So you're saying, no matter what she's been through. It's understandable that people can be in bad times in their life and act inapropiately (bad spelling.) I don't agree with what Sunny said, and I think she's out of order, but to condemn her entirely is something else. Sunny is being petty at best, you can go to youtube and see much worse comments. You're acting like she directly said she wanted Lacey dead. Don't give in to the smark side of you....it just looks ugly.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 3, 2009 21:58:39 GMT -5
How did she "bash" Angelina, exactly? By saying that she didn't think Angelina was a good fit for the Beautiful People? It's an opinion on a wrestling related subject; we all have 'em, and I doubt it's bashing if I was to say something like "I don't think HBK fits the DX stuff at all". You may not agree with it, but that's hardly cause for saying that it was a "bash". Was it by saying that she's heard enough about Angelina to not want to meet her? While such a comment isn't sunshine and buttercups, I don't see that as a "bash". It's no different than us commenting on how we might not like to meet one wrestler/celebrity or another because those who have didn't say good things. Might not have been necessary for her to comment on that, but it's hardly on the same level as Sunny's malicious comments. For all we know Angelina could have been either nasty or done some things Lacey just plain didn't think was appropriate backstage, hence the "heard enough to not want to know" comment I don't think Angelina necessarily actually had to do something to offend Lacey. It could just be a case of someone getting in her ear and telling her stories about Angelina, true or false. I'm sure we all witnessed or heard of people spreading false rumors in high school, and other people subsequently believing them. And while that may not speak well of Lacey if that's the case, I still don't think her comments about Angelina and then about Sunny make her hypocritical.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 4, 2009 6:33:49 GMT -5
As understandable as all that is, and she has gone through a tonne of crap in her lifetime, I can't use it as a justification for what she said on those statuses. There is dislike for the business and what it is and then there's just...wanting someone to die for no good reason. LOL. So you're saying, no matter what she's been through. It's understandable that people can be in bad times in their life and act inapropiately (bad spelling.) I don't agree with what Sunny said, and I think she's out of order, but to condemn her entirely is something else. Sunny is being petty at best, you can go to youtube and see much worse comments. You're acting like she directly said she wanted Lacey dead. Don't give in to the smark side of you....it just looks ugly. She DID directly want Lacey dead. She said it herself: Tamara Lynn Sytch: "Yeah, she'll overdose or shoot herself before you know it...." That is what she said. And no, I'm not outright condemning her, I'm saying that if someone like that said I'd overdose myself and die the same way most of my relatives did, I wouldn't want to know who the hell she was either.
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Post by Red Lion on Nov 4, 2009 6:48:27 GMT -5
Well, it's pretty hypocritical of her to bash someone for making comments about someone she's never met online, when she just did the same thing a month earlier, no? Um no. Those weren't just comments. Sunny said this. “how can I be jealous of a disrespectful no-talent bimbo who is only in the business b/c she was born to a suicidal drug addict?” I don't care what Lacey said about Angelina. It never rose to anything as vicious and tasteless as what Sunny said about Lacey and her family. diva-dirt.com took Lacey's side in this and said she had the perfect comment back. She took the high road and didn't respond to Sunny with equal crass. She didn't bring up Sunny's own very troubled past even though she could have. There is nothing worse than to be someone who craves attention and thinks they were famous, and have another say they never heard of you. It's the worst thing you can say to an old Z-list celebrity. Lacey, for all her faults, was totally in the right here. She didn't dig any hole for herself. She just made Sunny look even more foolish and pathetic. It's sometimes hard to figure out many in the IWC. Shhhhhhh don't dish out any dirt on Sunny, this is the IWC! While I agree that Lacey has no business in the squared circle, I think that not knowing who Sunny is is forgivable. I also find it funny how we all seem so insulted by Lacey not knowing Sunny, but seem almost totally fine with the dead-bashing insulting remark that Sunny made at Lacey. Yay! IWC!
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 4, 2009 8:51:25 GMT -5
Um no. Those weren't just comments. Sunny said this. “how can I be jealous of a disrespectful no-talent bimbo who is only in the business b/c she was born to a suicidal drug addict?” I don't care what Lacey said about Angelina. It never rose to anything as vicious and tasteless as what Sunny said about Lacey and her family. diva-dirt.com took Lacey's side in this and said she had the perfect comment back. She took the high road and didn't respond to Sunny with equal crass. She didn't bring up Sunny's own very troubled past even though she could have. There is nothing worse than to be someone who craves attention and thinks they were famous, and have another say they never heard of you. It's the worst thing you can say to an old Z-list celebrity. Lacey, for all her faults, was totally in the right here. She didn't dig any hole for herself. She just made Sunny look even more foolish and pathetic. It's sometimes hard to figure out many in the IWC. Shhhhhhh don't dish out any dirt on Sunny, this is the IWC! While I agree that Lacey has no business in the squared circle, I think that not knowing who Sunny is is forgivable. I also find it funny how we all seem so insulted by Lacey not knowing Sunny, but seem almost totally fine with the dead-bashing insulting remark that Sunny made at Lacey. Yay! IWC! You have to be reading a different board because pretty much everyone here thought what Sunny said was in poor taste. I don't give a crap about LVE but what Sunny said just seemed like a way to keep herself relevant in a business that has passed her by. One thing I do find funny is how everyone thinks LVE is a bad wrestler (which is true) but it really has nothing to do with the convo considering Sunny wasn't a wrestler.
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