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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 23, 2009 5:42:12 GMT -5
I've read some news sites and since they might be spoilers I'll put spoilers around them. {Spoiler}I keep hearing that Hogan along with Kurt Angle is going to be brought in as a face and Foley and Jarret will be the heels. I really don't see how this makes much sense at all. Why would Angle and Hogan support the younger guys in TNA?
To me it seems like it would be better to bring in Hogan in a new vamped up Hollywood gimmick and try to keep younger wrestlers down since that is basically what he did the whole time in WCW for real.
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Post by Nasty Nate: The Giant Midget on Dec 24, 2009 8:17:36 GMT -5
with a giant parade and world tit.... oh
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Post by barley96 on Dec 24, 2009 11:23:17 GMT -5
I would bring back Hulk Hogan as a heel manager to Desond Wolfe. Hulk Hogan should alter his gimmick that would be fresh. Remember that WCW really took off when Hulk became Hollywood and started the NWO. A new gimmick could re-revolutionize wrestling again.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 24, 2009 11:44:51 GMT -5
I'd say try him as a face and see how it goes. If he starts getting a negative reaction then turn him.
Kinda like the opposite way round it happened in 2002.
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Post by hbk4ever09 on Dec 24, 2009 11:56:57 GMT -5
He's going to get cheered, his thing with Foley just seems silly. Not that him and Mick can't put on a good program, this just seems mehh. It's tough to be a paranoid heel, unless the other guy is actually going to do what you're accusing him of, which wouldn't make him a face anymore. If that makes any sense.
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 24, 2009 12:54:37 GMT -5
I would do something where he comes in as a face claiming to be taking TNA to new heights, but ultimately it's revealed he's trying to destroy it from the inside.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 24, 2009 13:06:43 GMT -5
It'll pretty much be like this with Hulk being the focus instead of the original subject:
"If it hadn't been for Dixie, we would've never gotten near Hulk"
"He was a king and a God in the world he knew"
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Post by GaTechGrad on Dec 25, 2009 13:39:23 GMT -5
I haven't read the spoilers, but I like how they have plenty of options at this point. Hogan, Jarrett, and Foley are all tweeners right now, so they have a number heel/face of combinations at this point. TNA has never brought in a big name as a heel, but that may be the way they need to go with the reactions that Hogan has gotten in the Impact Zone (i.e. "screw Hulk Hogan" chants during PPVs).
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 25, 2009 13:58:02 GMT -5
On one of those little motorized ring things.or am i being to literal?
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 25, 2009 16:06:17 GMT -5
I really don't know what they can do that hasn't been done already either with Hogan, or in TNA. It seems to be TNA is a constant cycle of the repeated 'young vs old' feud.
Have the broad overview of the story be that Dixie has brought Hogan in because she wants to beat Vince. She figures that the only way to do this is to turn to the guy that has been the centrepiece of two wrestling booms. Bring Hogan in as a heel to the TNA fans, not because he's 'Hollywood', but because he's a delusional meglomaniac who abuses the power Dixie has intrusted to him and believes he can do no wrong. He makes massive changes to annoy the TNA fans, like changing the ring, and just doing crazy things that go against Jarret's philosophy of 'We are professional wrestling, not sports entertainment'.
Therefore, just like the NWO were the heels as they were effectively making the WWF heels by being 'sent there to destroy WCW', they make WWE the overall heels, representing a different form of wrestling to what they enjoy, which gets the TNA fans passionate about their product. And instead of young vs old, they do 'Wrestling vs Sports Entertainment' with the heels on Hogan's side as sports entertainment.
The ending of the story can be Hogan is beaten, or changes his mind and subscribes to the TNA philosophy and settles into a babyface authority figure/special attraction wrestler role to keep him around for ratings.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 25, 2009 16:06:33 GMT -5
Like Vitalstatistix...carried on a shield.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Dec 25, 2009 17:18:36 GMT -5
with beefcake, knobbs and maybe virgil
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Dec 25, 2009 22:16:42 GMT -5
As the new Godfather of a MEM/NWO like stable with Bischoff, Flair, Angle, Steiner, and other former main event guys.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 26, 2009 10:47:25 GMT -5
I really don't know what they can do that hasn't been done already either with Hogan, or in TNA. It seems to be TNA is a constant cycle of the repeated 'young vs old' feud. Have the broad overview of the story be that Dixie has brought Hogan in because she wants to beat Vince. She figures that the only way to do this is to turn to the guy that has been the centrepiece of two wrestling booms. Bring Hogan in as a heel to the TNA fans, not because he's 'Hollywood', but because he's a delusional meglomaniac who abuses the power Dixie has intrusted to him and believes he can do no wrong. He makes massive changes to annoy the TNA fans, like changing the ring, and just doing crazy things that go against Jarret's philosophy of 'We are professional wrestling, not sports entertainment'. Therefore, just like the NWO were the heels as they were effectively making the WWF heels by being 'sent there to destroy WCW', they make WWE the overall heels, representing a different form of wrestling to what they enjoy, which gets the TNA fans passionate about their product. And instead of young vs old, they do 'Wrestling vs Sports Entertainment' with the heels on Hogan's side as sports entertainment. The ending of the story can be Hogan is beaten, or changes his mind and subscribes to the TNA philosophy and settles into a babyface authority figure/special attraction wrestler role to keep him around for ratings. Hogan would never do that. He has been talking constantly about how crappy sports entertainment and wrestling writers are even though he practically created it.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Dec 26, 2009 11:13:52 GMT -5
Have him come in and looking like he's going to feud with AJ. After a couple of weeks of build up he runs into the MCMGs and completely forgets his beef with AJ. Instead he starts following around the Machine Guns and acting like them. He wants to reinvent himself and they take him under their wings. Lots of skits and vignettes of them doing young hip things and Hogan being an old man. They mock him behind his back and one of the times he hears them. Gets all sad and threatens to leave TNA for good. They make amends thru wacky antics. The Machine Guns learn that mocking people is mean and Hogan learns to act his age. Roll credits...print money.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 26, 2009 11:38:18 GMT -5
I really don't know what they can do that hasn't been done already either with Hogan, or in TNA. It seems to be TNA is a constant cycle of the repeated 'young vs old' feud. Have the broad overview of the story be that Dixie has brought Hogan in because she wants to beat Vince. She figures that the only way to do this is to turn to the guy that has been the centrepiece of two wrestling booms. Bring Hogan in as a heel to the TNA fans, not because he's 'Hollywood', but because he's a delusional meglomaniac who abuses the power Dixie has intrusted to him and believes he can do no wrong. He makes massive changes to annoy the TNA fans, like changing the ring, and just doing crazy things that go against Jarret's philosophy of 'We are professional wrestling, not sports entertainment'. Therefore, just like the NWO were the heels as they were effectively making the WWF heels by being 'sent there to destroy WCW', they make WWE the overall heels, representing a different form of wrestling to what they enjoy, which gets the TNA fans passionate about their product. And instead of young vs old, they do 'Wrestling vs Sports Entertainment' with the heels on Hogan's side as sports entertainment. The ending of the story can be Hogan is beaten, or changes his mind and subscribes to the TNA philosophy and settles into a babyface authority figure/special attraction wrestler role to keep him around for ratings. Hogan would never do that. He has been talking constantly about how crappy sports entertainment and wrestling writers are even though he practically created it. That's kind of why I think they will go that way. The kind of interviews with Hogan and Jarret have given suggest they are going to play this out as an angle, but try and get as many people believing it is real as possible. Like with Hogan saying 'They are going to give me total control, I'm going there to run the show and look at every facet of the business', it's a surefire way to get the TNA marks to say 'Oh no, he's going to ruin what this company stands for, which is quality wrestling etc etc etc' which is where Jarret comes in, giving his 'We aren't Sports-Entertainment, we are Professional Wresting' interviews. Therefore I don't think Hogan will be full blown heel - in a wrestling organisation headed in creative by Vince Russo you never get that proper distinction anyway. I think they'll allow fans to choose, whether they side with Hogan because they think he is the best man that Dixie could have brought in to challenge Vince, or they side with Jarret because they believe they should stick to differentiating themselves from the WWE. They are probably banking on fans buying it as real, that Hogan really does have that power, in order to get them emotionally invested. And it will be a new spin on Hogan's character, because him doing the same old 'LET ME TELL YA SOMETHIN' BROTHER' isn't going to suddenly shoot TNA up to competing with WWE. So part of me buys into the IWC perception of Hogan that he will refuse to reinvent himself because he believes he is the God of wrestling, but another part of me thinks that he knows he has to reinvent himself, because he's done it once before and it led to another boom as well as prolonging his shelf life as a main eventer.
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Dec 28, 2009 6:39:13 GMT -5
As much as the IWC would hate it they need to bring in the "Hogan Knows Best" version of Hogan. If they market him to his reality show crowd they have a possibility to bring in a lot of ppl who watched him on that show. I know a lot of ppl who don't watch wrestling that watched that show. Try to bring in those fans then find a way to bring back some of the southern fans who quit watching after WCW. They need to advertize the hell out his return to those markets first.
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 28, 2009 11:30:12 GMT -5
As a door-to-door salesman.
Hulk to Hamada: Hey, baby! I've got a new produ..**crescent kick**
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Post by cartern923 on Dec 28, 2009 11:52:05 GMT -5
I don't know if we're going to see much in-ring work from Hogan considering I heard he was in serious pain following the Australian tour. Therefore, I see him coming in as more of a manager/ring-leader of a faction, rather than the faction's top wrestler.
Just as a side thought, with Hall coming in and Nash talking about getting the band back together, anyone think the writers are going to pull a swerve and have Hall and Nash reform the Kings of Wrestling with Jarrett? Maybe with the reasoning of 'hey Hogan, you said you'd take us to the promised land in WCW, and you failed, so we aren't falling for it again'. Just a thought.
As far as face/heel goes, I figure he'll be the 'forced face'. The face that the fans clearly don't like, but that won't officially turn heel.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 28, 2009 12:19:24 GMT -5
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