Dave at the Movies
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 1, 2010 21:55:25 GMT -5
Honestly I would love to see the Thuganomics gimmick come back but I think that that will work against him in the opposite way. I think older males will actually start cheering for him if they go back to the Thuganomics gimmick.
This is what I would do to turn him heel. I would drop the urban clothes all together because that has become apart of who he is as a face. I would have him go back to wearing tight biker shorts only make them black or maybe black military style pants. I would give him more of a mercenary military gimmick more closer to his Prototype OVW gimmick only not as ridiculous. I can't remember a mercenary gimmick ever being done before. They could do his face up in black camo like at the beginning of The Marine if they want to get crazy but I don't think they have to go quite that far.
For the actual storyline to turn him I would just completely have him snap because he can't beat Sheamus. He could take out someone the fans like such as Rey Mysterio or something. I think moving him to Smackdown would be a great idea since they are kind of short on main eventers anyway.
I honestly don't think merchandise is much of an issue anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if DX actually sells more in merchandise than he does now. I guess if they wanted to keep the merchandise moving they could just bring back Thuganomics because heels sell merchandise pretty well too. I heard Edge's merchandise didn't sell that much less than Cena's back when he was on top of Smackdown.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 1, 2010 21:58:29 GMT -5
Paranoid babyface who does anything to gain respect from his peers. Very subtle kind of crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2010 21:59:32 GMT -5
Plant a child in the audience covered in Cena merch. Have Cena call attention to him during a promo for some reason, then bring him ringside for a match with Sheamus (given the current storyline).
Sheamus then wins. Cena gets all pissed off like he has been when having anything to do these past few weeks. Kid comes in to try and calm Cena down. Kid gets his attitude adjusted.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 1, 2010 22:03:04 GMT -5
I would've prolongued the "Never Lose Until WWE Champ" angle 'til the Royal Rumble, and have Cena be eliminated (he'd be one of the Final Four) by an over face (for all intents & purposes of the scenario, Rey Mystero). The guy who eliminated Cena goes on RAW the next night and does an in-ring interview, until Cena runs in and brutally (or as brutal as PG-era WWE can allow) assaults the face. He then cuts a promo about how the fans have turned on him and how he doesn't need them. He then becomes a groomed "Champion", basically, Mr. McMahon's hand-picked champion. (That bit with Jesse Ventura alluding to a conspiracy to make Cena the golden boy would fit in with this, too) This would eventually bring him into conflict with the Undertaker at WM26.
WWE could even cash in on this, by selling "Cena Sold Out" merchandise for the fans to wear and such.
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Post by twiggy101 on Jan 1, 2010 22:05:04 GMT -5
I would make it so that John Cena comes out to the ring with a mic and goes "f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU! f*** YOU!" to the fans.
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Post by American Dragon on Jan 1, 2010 22:13:04 GMT -5
WWE could even cash in on this, by selling "Cena Sold Out" merchandise for the fans to wear and such. Poifect!
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Post by coolkevthedude on Jan 1, 2010 22:15:13 GMT -5
He could be a heel wrestler that is serious all the time, a la Lance Storm. Maybe he could be a cocky heel that people boo all the time, he would get rid of his current gimmick and go back to wearing trunks.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Jan 1, 2010 22:46:47 GMT -5
He would have to beat up Rey Mysterio. It would have to be a more or just as popular face he turns against, but only Mysterio gives off the innocent and defenceless image as opposed to Taker or DX.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jan 1, 2010 22:52:40 GMT -5
I know that everyone who wants Cena to turn heel wants him to be the Thuganomics guy again, but lets face it. If that happened, he'd get cheered more than he already is.
The only way to make Cena a convincing heel is to make him a serious, no nonsense, uncool heel. Make him wear the biker shorts again, make him grow some facial hair (sorry Gilette), change his theme song, and make him cut monotone promos like Randy Orton.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Jan 1, 2010 23:02:09 GMT -5
In a dream scenario, Id love to see it as Cena winning a title match at the end of a PPV, perferabley in a smarky area. Then from the crowd out jumps Brock Lesnar who comes in behind and F5's Cena, with the fans going mental. This could lead to Cena turning heel on the fans since even normal fans would probably cheer someone like Lesnar coming back.
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Post by KingPopper on Jan 1, 2010 23:29:33 GMT -5
Face Undertaker at Mania, tease a heel turn the weeks before. Have him start to turn during the match. Right as everyone thinks Cena is gonna win, Taker lands a tombstone out of nowhere. After the match Cena attacks Taker with a chair. Bingo theres your Cena heel turn.
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Post by barley96 on Jan 2, 2010 0:22:42 GMT -5
I would have a tag team set up between The Legacy vs John Cena and MVP. Either Cody or Ted rolls Cena up and makes it look like a fluke victory. After the match Cena injures MVP. Next week he denounces his gimmick and says that he is going to be himself which is a no frills John Cena. Then Mark Henry challenges John Cena. Cena refuses to wrestle Henry, but later backstage Henry is laid out and taken out on a stretcher. Then MVP and John Cena have a feud. Besides Kofi who is already in a feud with Orton, MVP is the most over face on RAW that has not wrestled John Cena 100000000000 times. It would be a fresh rivalry that would give John Cena a lot of heat and could elevate MVP to main event status.
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Post by SenorCrest on Jan 2, 2010 0:35:50 GMT -5
Cena gets punted by orton then the next week Cena comes out and him and Orton shake hands and hug? or maybe beats horny. idk.
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Post by Big L on Jan 2, 2010 0:53:21 GMT -5
thuganomics baby!
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 2, 2010 1:04:26 GMT -5
I agree he'd have to ditch his current attire, like how Edge ditched the overcoat and oversized sunglasses when he went FULL Rated R Superstar.
His Roofles Aggravation matching shorts/arbands/boots look would be ok. I agree about the facial hair.
I think he should go with the quiet angry mood, not psycho like Randy, just more "down to business".
To turn him heel I'd say have him do something really crappy to a Diva one week, then a planted fan the next week, having some random, high level face running out to make the save.
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Post by cernex on Jan 2, 2010 1:06:49 GMT -5
Not sure if that's even possible, taking in account the WWE now is pretty officially geared towards kids and soccer moms. You can't take away you main draw to that market, specially when you don't have something to replace it with.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 2, 2010 1:18:58 GMT -5
He needs to wear trunks and a suit.
That means your SRS Heel now.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 2, 2010 1:21:00 GMT -5
He needs to wear trunks and a suit. That means your SRS Heel now. And of course, insulting the fans using sophisticated words like "hypocrite" or "sycophant", or even "parasite". Be sure to use these words every week in your promos to remind the fans that you're SRS.
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Post by vivix on Jan 2, 2010 1:52:57 GMT -5
HAve him cheat to end Taker's win streak at wrestlemania? I think that would work. Have the following happen over the next few weeks-Ryder wins Homecoming, 4way made by Mike Tyson, Dynsasty/DX made by Long/Bret, Ted/Cody turn on Orton. At the Royal Rumble have the following card:
Afterwards Cena goes batshit crazy and takes out the Undertaker before he can even walk to the ring, leaving Batista vs. Rey as the mainevent letting everyone think Taker will make his big comeback and retain. Taker starts coming down to the ring and Cena runs down the ramp behind him and beats him again ending with an Attitude Adjustment on a table. Batista detroys Rey while Cena keeps Taker at bay. PPV ends with Cena/Batista standing in the ring together. Sheamus vs. Kofi vs. Orton vs. Cena-Kofi pins Orton to win the Belt(Cena didn't lose NOR win). Ted/Cody celebrating when Orton walks in to say he taught them well. Ted says if Orton can somehow win the match then Ted will gladly face him at Wrestlemania. DX vs. Hart Dynasty-Bret costs DX the match. Cena backstage promo about taking out Sheamus/Orton/Kofi and getting back HIS belt. Christian vs. Ryder-Ryder wins and end the Extreme Age with post match backstage promo. ROYAL RUMBLE-Final 4 are Jericho/Punk/Ted/Cody WINNER thanks to Edge is Ted Dibiase.-OPENING MATCH
Over the next few RAW/SD episodes have Batista/Cena be on both shows talking about the plan being they would be the Dynamic Duo in the WWE but Kofi screwed it up and so they "convince" a guest host to stack the deck at Elimination Chamber against Kofi(his opponents are: Cena/Henry/Sheamus/Orton/Show. Ted teases who he will face but agrees to make his decision after his match Elimination Chamber with Cody. Orton announces a new better legacy is about to begin and it will be cooler/younger/stronger and more experienced than the last.
Elimination Chamber matches in Reverse Order: Kofi vs. Cena vs. Show vs. Sheamus vs. Henry vs. Orton Kofi defeats Sheamus quickly, Show eliminates Henry but is weakened and Kofi nails his finishers to beat him. Cena's chamber opens and he destroys Kofi for a few minutes until Ortons chamber opens and he stops to stare at Orton. the lights go out after Cena tombstones Kofi when they come back Taker is destroying Cena while Orton hides inside his chamber, Taker chokeslams Cena through the chamber floor and Batista helps Cena get away. Taker follows after them and Orton slips in to RKO Kofi for the win. Ryder vs. Christian-Ryder beats Christian and demands the end of Extreme. DX vs. Hart Dynasty-Double Countout Morrison vs. McIntyre for the IC Belt-Morrison wins his belt back. Miz vs. MVP for the US Title-Miz retains. OPENING MATCH: World Heavyweight Elimination Chamber Match- Batista vs. Rey vs. Taker vs. Punk vs. Truth vs. Jericho. Rey starts with Punk and neither gets eliminated, Truth enters the ring next and still no eliminations, Jericho comes in and eliminates Truth first and then Rey. taker comes in and eliminates Punk and Jericho. Batista comes in finally but can't handle Taker. Taker has him set up to be pinned when Cena runs down with Bolt cutters and gets in the chamber to help Batista win.
Next night on RAW they could have the guest host be intimidated by Cena/Batista into giving Cena a match with Orton tonight but Kofi interjects saving the host and asking for his rematch. During the main event Cena vs. Kofi vs. Orton the undertaker attacks Cena and fights with him to the back leaving Kofi to dominate Orton until Primo/Carlito come out and helps Orton win. Ted then announces he's facing Orton for the belt at MANIA. basically keep building up the matches for MANIA and have the following card:
WWE Championship: Randy Orton vs. Ted Dibiase World Heavyweight Title: Batista vs. Rey Mysterio(mask on the line) JOHN CENA vs. UNDERTAKER CHRIS JERICHO vs. EDGE D-Generation X vs. Hart Dynasty MITB: Carlito vs. Kofi vs. Bourne vs. Swagger vs. Punk vs. Truth vs. Matt vs. Ziggler That other brand championship: Zack Ryder vs. Shelton Benjamin Christian/Yoshi/Ezekial vs. Kozlov/Regal/Byron Dabney(Bryan Danielson) United States Championship: Miz vs. Cody vs. Primo Intercontinental Championship: Morrison vs. McIntyre vs. Escobar Sheamus vs. Show vs. Henry vs. Kane vs. Gallos vs. Knox in a battle of the big men for DVD.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 1:59:10 GMT -5
He needs to wear trunks and a suit. That means your SRS Heel now. And of course, insulting the fans using sophisticated words like "hypocrite" or "sycophant", or even "parasite". Be sure to use these words every week in your promos to remind the fans that you're SRS. That, or insult the contents of their genetic lunchboxes. That always works nicely.
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