Dave at the Movies
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 6, 2010 11:56:29 GMT -5
Only if you count The Family when this fed first started That was awesome. I totally need to make a Niteraw opening video with the Faith No More theme that we voted for.
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Post by smokinvokoun on Jul 6, 2010 13:44:10 GMT -5
OMG, that video is so so awesome!!! Great work!
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Post by Square on Jul 6, 2010 14:33:11 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them.
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Viva
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Post by Viva on Jul 6, 2010 14:43:12 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them. I go by the voting and whether or not I want to continue a feud. For instance, me and Jay had a feud going, and Amigo was a participant for whatever reason, but I lost two straight rematches to Jay, and it's time to let that feud go and someone else to have a chance at that belt. At the end of this last Niteraw, he won his title and made me look like a fool, and the only reason I had a chance to retaliate was due to his injuries. So, it gave me an opportunity to send a message to Seth while Jay stays over and I remain a threat as a heel. That was my logic behind all of that, but again, it depends on the feud, the situation, and the voting.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 6, 2010 14:50:04 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them. I think going by the votes is better. I mean me and Headbanger are in a small feud with you and Hangman and we are all heels/tweeners. Do we have any confirmed matches for Niteraw next week yet? Also has anyone heard from Tyfo in a while? I believe he is facing Jay at Botch at the Beach for the world title. Also speaking of them what exactly is the status on The Family? I know they are technically still a stable but I see very little interaction between them for the most part. Same goes for us in Heavy Metal Hollywood but I plan to fix that soon. I'm just thinking we should probably as stables do more joint promos on niteraw sort of like how the NWO and Four Horsemen did in the late 90s.
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Square
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Post by Square on Jul 6, 2010 14:59:39 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them. I go by the voting and whether or not I want to continue a feud. For instance, me and Jay had a feud going, and Amigo was a participant for whatever reason, but I lost two straight rematches to Jay, and it's time to let that feud go and someone else to have a chance at that belt. At the end of this last Niteraw, he won his title and made me look like a fool, and the only reason I had a chance to retaliate was due to his injuries. So, it gave me an opportunity to send a message to Seth while Jay stays over and I remain a threat as a heel. That was my logic behind all of that, but again, it depends on the feud, the situation, and the voting. This isn't against you, but I've noticed more and more people doing this same thing of having their cake and eating it. I believe that the heels primary job is to create heat for themselves, and then when it's time for the feud to end that heat is transferred to the face in the form of momentum. I've tried to do that in all my feuds, and I think I do a half decent job at helping to get people over, but if that's what is keeping me "wading water" then maybe I need to change me philosophy
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Viva
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Post by Viva on Jul 6, 2010 15:02:27 GMT -5
It's not your job to get anyone over. It's their job to get themselves over in the voting by cutting great promos and writing great matches.
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Post by hossfan on Jul 6, 2010 15:03:37 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them. To me a feud between a face and a heel doesn't have to end with the heel losing. If it did there would never be a heel champion. I think in role playing type situations the job of a heel is to be dickish in an entertaining way so you get people to vote for you even if that means you beat the face. EDIT: That said, I think in matches its the heels job to make himself look bad in victory. Winning by cheating, outside interference, pure dumb luck, etc.
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Square
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Post by Square on Jul 6, 2010 15:17:28 GMT -5
It's not your job to get anyone over. It's their job to get themselves over in the voting by cutting great promos and writing great matches. But to create a better e-fed it is our job to do that to keep it fresh and interesting. If it was left to just promos than it would always be Colt, Natich and Amigo because they were here first and thus look the strongest and most deserving.
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Viva
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Post by Viva on Jul 6, 2010 15:22:39 GMT -5
It's not your job to get anyone over. It's their job to get themselves over in the voting by cutting great promos and writing great matches. But to create a better e-fed it is our job to do that to keep it fresh and interesting. If it was left to just promos than it would always be Colt, Natich and Amigo because they were here first and thus look the strongest and most deserving. The way to keep feuds fresh and interesting is to work together with who you're feuding with and make the matches the best they can be. At the end of the day, the voting structure makes this e-fed little more than a popularity contest.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jul 6, 2010 15:46:38 GMT -5
I see both Viva and Square's points, but if I may drive them towards a unified concept:
The bigger the heel, the sweeter their loss; The sweeter the loss, the bigger the face.
People should generally vote in a way that makes the story more interesting. Sometimes that means continuing the feud, sometimes that means ending it.
Members working a program should always be ready to adapt to voting results as well as know when a good angle should end and write their promos and matches accordingly.
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Post by Tyfo on Jul 6, 2010 16:21:40 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the heels, just so that I can see whether the basic principals I use in WWCF are holding me back or not. THe main job of the heel is to make the face look like a million bucks right? The heels are meant to look good during the feud, but at the end of the feud get there arse handed to them. I think going by the votes is better. I mean me and Headbanger are in a small feud with you and Hangman and we are all heels/tweeners. Do we have any confirmed matches for Niteraw next week yet? Also has anyone heard from Tyfo in a while? I believe he is facing Jay at Botch at the Beach for the world title. Also speaking of them what exactly is the status on The Family? I know they are technically still a stable but I see very little interaction between them for the most part. Same goes for us in Heavy Metal Hollywood but I plan to fix that soon. I'm just thinking we should probably as stables do more joint promos on niteraw sort of like how the NWO and Four Horsemen did in the late 90s. I'm here. I'm just supposed to be off storyline wise healing from matches from the last two weeks. Plus I wanted to be sure who my opponent was before I said to much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 16:31:03 GMT -5
OK, confirmed for NiteRaw:
Rankings match: Smokin' Vokoun V. Whitey Fats
Rankings match: The General of the Monkey Army V. Amigo
Rankings match: Sparks V. Colt(Evil M will sit in on commentary, so I'll write it)
Square V. Headbanger Man
Caleb Fourchon V. ??
We'll probably have two or three more matches, so feel free to make a request.
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Post by hossfan on Jul 6, 2010 16:47:31 GMT -5
OK, confirmed for NiteRaw: Rankings match: Smokin' Vokoun V. Caleb Fourchon Rankings match: The General of the Monkey Army V. Amigo Rankings match: Sparks V. Colt(Evil M will sit in on commentary, so I'll write it) Square V. Headbanger Man We'll probably have two or three more matches, so feel free to make a request. Kibitzing here, but doesn't Whitey Fats want a chance to rank for the IF title? I'll let him take my spot if he wants it. I would like a match, though. Again, preferably against a face.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 16:50:01 GMT -5
OK, Whitey get's Caleb's spot. Caleb will take on... anyone interested? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 6, 2010 18:25:50 GMT -5
Feed him to the Hangman.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 6, 2010 19:09:55 GMT -5
Sorry for the double-post:
Viva, I think to seal this temporary quitting thing, you need to like kayfabe open your own website to adress things out of the WWCF's eye.
Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 19:18:59 GMT -5
Well, he wants a face opponent. And feed him to him? Really now? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 6, 2010 19:24:52 GMT -5
Well, he wants a face opponent. And feed him to him? Really now? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Hey, you gotta be supportive of your mates/friends/whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 19:36:55 GMT -5
Hmmph. I was always, "Yeah, we'll just feed Colt or Above Average to so-and-so." I guess I was doing it wrong? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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