darthalexander
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Post by darthalexander on May 18, 2010 11:09:42 GMT -5
The only thing I like about this is Steve Buscemi as The Scarecrow. The rest, yuck.
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Post by thatguybayne on May 18, 2010 11:13:50 GMT -5
I like the idea of Harley Quinn on the silver screen but her time will come.. Hopefully not as some Catwoman type deal like the one Helle Berry did.
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metylerca
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Post by metylerca on May 18, 2010 11:54:27 GMT -5
Aww man.
Steve Buscemi, denied!
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Jobes
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Post by Jobes on May 18, 2010 12:12:55 GMT -5
I've always heard that Christopher Lloyd was to play Scarecrow.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on May 18, 2010 17:29:41 GMT -5
George Clooney as Bats means an epic fail regardless of the script. And I actually like Clooney in other movies, he was just a terrible Batman. I always said, Clooney was a good Bruce Wayne but a horrible Batman. I would have liked to see where Catwoman turned up, considering she was alive at the end of Returns. The Catwoman solo film, which ended up being the Halle Berry abortion, had been in the works for at least a decade. I'm sure there was an option to follow directly on from Batman Returns. I think Michelle Pfeiffer was even approached about coming back at one point.
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Post by -Lithium- on May 18, 2010 17:29:47 GMT -5
I always read that Bruce would get sprayed by the Fear Gas from Scarecrow, and "his worst fear" would end up being the return of The Joker. That really seems forced. I could see the Heath Ledger Joker's return being Batmans biggest fear, as he severely messed some stuff up, made Batman question his whole "mission"/philosophy, and caused all kinds of incredible problems. The 89 Joker didn't. He ran around the city, and then Batman beats him in like 5 minutes. By the end of that movie (89), Batman was actually better off. I guess Jack Napier himself could be his worst fear, but not The Joker.
Oh, and I hated Shumachers casting. I know the whole Burton-Shumacher series just tended to go with the safer choices, but Shumachers was just whoever was big at the time, even if they didn't fit...
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Grendel
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Post by Grendel on May 18, 2010 17:36:57 GMT -5
im happy this didnt get made, because right off the bat they messed up Harley's character...however seein Jack back at the Joker would have been fun. ive read that Schumacher wanted to go darker with this movie....there was talk about Madonna playing Harley at the time. This film was going to have Scarecrow, Joker, and Harley...if they added one more villian to the mix...probably killer croc just guessing on Joel's take of characters...he probably would have cast Hulk Hogan to play him as he was one of Joel's options for Mr. Freeze Hulk Hogan as Mr. Freeze? You mean we missed out on such lines as "Chill out, Brotha!" or "I was frozen today!" ;D
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on May 18, 2010 17:38:38 GMT -5
Yeah, the Schumacher movies casted like a really bad SNL episode. Let's get whoever is really popular at the moment and stick them in a rubber costume and/or spandex.
Billy Dee Williams should have been Two-Face (just to keep the continuity, even with Batman himself being recasted). Likewise, Patrick Stewart should have been Mr. Freeze, but Schumacher said he wanted something really muscular for the role. Yeah.
Out of all of the Burton/Schumacher-era villains, Jack's Joker did the most damage. He poisoned mass quantities of everyday products, then nearly gassed the city to death. Plus, you know, he killed Batman's parents. We did see him again, played by a lookalike, in the dream sequences of Batman Forever, so I could buy that he still tormented his subconscious.
Actually, the Forever script did a really good job picking up this plot thread, but it was botched in editing and by Schumacher. Bruce even says it to Dick when he was lecturing him about his "need" to kill Harvey Dent: You can kill the person responsible, but you'll just see them in every other criminal you encounter, until you finally realize that the need for revenge will never be satiated.
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