Ragnal
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Post by Ragnal on Jan 27, 2010 23:14:30 GMT -5
I'm not saying that TNA doesn't have a strong enough following...I mean, they drew a slightly higher rating than usual earlier this month...but for those ratings I'd assume TNA is suicidal.
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Post by renzino on Jan 27, 2010 23:22:03 GMT -5
I'm not trying to sound negative, but I don't think it is smart for TNA to move Impact on Mondays against Raw.
Don't get me wrong I hope they do well but it seems way too risky of a move IMO.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Jan 28, 2010 0:08:31 GMT -5
I'm not trying to sound negative, but I don't think it is smart for TNA to move Impact on Mondays against Raw. Don't get me wrong I hope they do well but it seems way too risky of a move IMO. That's what I think as well. TNA should give itself a nice pat on the back for getting such good ratings for their 1/4 show. But the thing is, they pretty much went all out on everything when they did it. Hogan finally showed up, and Flair, the Nasty Bros, Val Venis, Jeff Hardy, Orlando Jordan, and the Band all showed up. That "who'll show up next" factor probably got a lot more people to tune in. But what are they going to do now? They can't keep debuting people every week and I don't think they have anywhere near viewers to think they can compete with RAW. And with as negative as some things have been on TNA lately, they might even lose some of their viewers to the WWE, though I do doubt it actually happening. I just think that setting up a permanet Monday night slot right now would be suicide. And no, not the wrestler.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2010 0:13:17 GMT -5
If they can draw their normal rating on Mondays, the move is worthwhile, as it, at least theoretically, allows for more room to grow.
There's not a guarantee of that happening, but I suppose it's worth a shot.
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Post by Randy Barber 4-Life on Jan 28, 2010 0:21:50 GMT -5
There's a part of me that really thinks that all of this is Dixie Carter swinging for the fences. Like they made the decision that either they'll be a major competitor to the WWE, or shut it down.
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Post by moonlight on Jan 28, 2010 0:47:38 GMT -5
Scheduling being done by the I'm Having A Blonde Moment Limited, ...A division of the Sky Is Falling Productions.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 28, 2010 0:52:29 GMT -5
This is smart.. they're doing it during the hottest period in for wrestling in the past many years. The build to WrestleMania. They maximize their chances of flip overs.
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Lancers
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Post by Lancers on Jan 28, 2010 1:20:32 GMT -5
The January 4th show made sense because they were unveiling Hogan and their new direction (I'm not doing any WCW jokes!) The problem now is what could they possibly offer on March 1st to deter people from watching RAW? The Hogan fascination has worn off pretty much. They've blown their load on all their new signings in the last month instead of spacing them out or building some of them up before their debut.
I got no problem with them competing head-to-head against the WWE, but they need a damn good gameplan if they think they can put a dent into the competition. I don't think they're at that point yet. Unless they do a 2 hour show dedicated to every single televised entrance of Velvet Sky. But even that novelty would wear off after 10-20 minutes, then probably reach another peak every 40 minutes or so depending on the audience's stamina.
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Post by Massive G on Jan 28, 2010 1:33:38 GMT -5
remember that Simpsons episode where Homer and Bart get into the business of selling grease for profit? there's an exchange that goes like this: Marge: What are you doing? Homer: I'm acheiving financial independence. M: With grease? H: (sarcastically) No, with savings and wise investments. Of course with grease!
It seems like TNA is Homer in this analogy. Financial independence is national, commercial viability. And grease? Hulk Hogan.
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Post by Lancers on Jan 28, 2010 1:36:39 GMT -5
remember that Simpsons episode where Homer and Bart get into the business of selling grease for profit? there's an exchange that goes like this: Marge: What are you doing? Homer: I'm acheiving financial independence. M: With grease? H: (sarcastically) No, with savings and wise investments. Of course with grease! It seems like TNA is Homer in this analogy. Financial independence is national, commercial viability. And grease? Hulk Hogan. This is easily the best Simpsons reference I've ever seen on these boards. Well done.
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Post by Massive G on Jan 28, 2010 2:33:58 GMT -5
remember that Simpsons episode where Homer and Bart get into the business of selling grease for profit? there's an exchange that goes like this: Marge: What are you doing? Homer: I'm acheiving financial independence. M: With grease? H: (sarcastically) No, with savings and wise investments. Of course with grease! It seems like TNA is Homer in this analogy. Financial independence is national, commercial viability. And grease? Hulk Hogan. This is easily the best Simpsons reference I've ever seen on these boards. Well done. / hat tip and bow
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Post by comahan on Jan 28, 2010 2:35:45 GMT -5
With DVR, I really doubt either company really hurts the other one too bad. Most people dont have to choose one or the other anymore, they can just watch both - and it still count toward the rating. Id expect both companies' ratings to stay about the same in the end.
The biggest news of it all to me is that its live every other week. NOTHING can beat the feeling of being live.
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Post by donners on Jan 28, 2010 3:03:31 GMT -5
Hang on, so every second week they will have a taped show live against Raw?
Surely I'm misunderstanding...
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 28, 2010 5:54:50 GMT -5
Nope, that's right.
It feels like a halfway house. I'm wondering if either Spike couldn't do it (possibly due to money/scheduling conflicts) or if the wrestlers would've been unhappy at the increase to their schedule.
Either which way, I think I agree with HMark. Might as well give it a shot I guess.
Though a funny Simpsons reference is always appreciated too!
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jan 28, 2010 8:03:15 GMT -5
Well, Raw did it that way against a live Nitro for how long? And they seem to have done pretty well for themselves in the long run.
I don't believe this is suicide. Going live more than once or twice a year is a major step, and you have to think the ratings will increase at least a little bit just based on the lack-of-spoiler factor alone. Add to that the yearly swell of viewers leading into Mania, and the overall unease that many fans have with Raw right now, and you've got what's probably the best time ever to pounce. Period.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 28, 2010 8:31:56 GMT -5
If TNA idea of being an alternative to WWE is doing some of pro wrestling's greatest hits verbatim, then game over. What's next AJ as the corporate champion. Hogan revealed as the higher power. For all the talk of Bischoff saying he is more creative than Vince, to rehash Montreal is predictable. Let the in ring wrestling hook the audience and do original storylines that benefit those who need the boost, not a big name from the Monday Night War Era. Don't try to out-WWE WWE when you play in front of tourists in a soundstage in an amusement park.
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Post by dpg on Jan 28, 2010 13:05:56 GMT -5
By the looks of it TNA is moving to monday nights permenantly, alternating between a live show one week and a taped show the next. Could work, all depends on the advertising and booking.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 28, 2010 13:14:03 GMT -5
TNA: Where Suicide isn't just an employee anymore!
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Post by kropotkin on Jan 28, 2010 13:49:56 GMT -5
I don't understand why it would be suicide. There's absolutely no way they can get any less viewers they're getting now, so they can only increase viewership, ad revenue, exposure etc. Yes, RAW is going to get higher ratings for the foreseeable future...so? If TNA remains financially stable, and Spike is happy with their ratings (which they appear to be very happy with) it's actually quite irrelevant what kind of rating they pull in comparison to RAW. TNA could pull a 0.2 and Raw a 18.50--if the former holds true, the latter would be inconsequential.
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