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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 2, 2010 19:55:54 GMT -5
I just got word that Dana White and Joss Whedon have signed on as well. Crap,Impact is getting canceled then. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 2, 2010 20:03:21 GMT -5
I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt but one thing is for sure............I'm watching both RAW and IMPACT when i get home from work.  I haven't been this excited in a long long time to watch two different wrestling shows. |
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Post by Trout Stratus on Jan 2, 2010 20:08:57 GMT -5
god, if this where someone with a brain they could the old guys as a stepping stone for the youngs guys to come up and show the world why there better than wwe in terms of moves and wrestling, all this just sounds like some reality show, people need to remember why we even give a crap, its for the WRESTLING...
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2010 20:45:35 GMT -5
god, if this where someone with a brain they could the old guys as a stepping stone for the youngs guys to come up and show the world why there better than wwe in terms of moves and wrestling, all this just sounds like some reality show, people need to remember why we even give a crap, its for the WRESTLING... But Hogan says it all about the characters. |
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Post by deeks on Jan 2, 2010 20:58:20 GMT -5
god, if this where someone with a brain they could the old guys as a stepping stone for the youngs guys to come up and show the world why there better than wwe in terms of moves and wrestling, all this just sounds like some reality show, people need to remember why we even give a crap, its for the WRESTLING... But Hogan says it all about the characters. And Hogan would be right. Otherwise, ROH and other wrestling oriented indies would be insanely popular. It will always be about the soap opera, characters, and spectacle. That's what draws in the viewers. |
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 2, 2010 21:00:45 GMT -5
Even though I am far from anything resembling a Pantera fan... I am so excited for this show for the hopes of hearing Walk again as Rob Van Dam's intro.
Someone made the point that this is like the real life Alliance, and it's true. However, it's really how an ECW/WCW alliance would've went, and if WCW wasn't bought by the WWF. You have most of the big name talent that wasn't brought in for the alliance immediatley or if at all...
This is really shaping up to be bigger than we thought before especially if Heyman is on board. These are alot of people that have a completely different version than Vince and have been successful (and failed too) . Bisch, Russo, Heyman and Hogan... and then you have other very smart wrestling minds like Raven and Dreamer who will probably contribute somewhat in the back.
Plus, I'm guessing with my gut that Hogan has a contract full of incentives for success. It will be in his best interest to take advantage of the smart wrestling people on board. A two hour product with 40 some wrestlers on the roster leaves a lot of time for people to book storylines and get people involved with Hogan directing the overall direction of everything.
Everyone thinks it's doomed to fail, I think the opposite.
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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 2, 2010 21:08:32 GMT -5
TNA will switch to an all backstage format as we see the backstage machinations of a wrestling company. Matches will take place off screen and will referenced by people suddenly having belts or complaining about the results. What? It's pretty obvious since their most famous people are all working backstage Its kinda weird but I think that would make a pretty neat sitcom actually. It wouldnt get any ratings but.. Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty sure this newz is the newziest newz to ever newz. Just some guy speculating and adding random percentages. Don't pay it any mind.. Kennedy would make sense, but if Heyman shows up on Impact I'll eat my hat. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2010 21:11:32 GMT -5
But Hogan says it all about the characters. And Hogan would be right. Otherwise, ROH and other wrestling oriented indies would be insanely popular. It will always be about the soap opera, characters, and spectacle. That's what draws in the viewers. Yet the ratings says that viewers turned away during the Jarrett/ Foley saga earlier in last month. It's good to have characters, drama, and spectacles. But don't forget you are presenting pro wrestling. UFC presents the same thing but they remember to sell the fight and the potential brutality and payoff. |
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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 2, 2010 21:13:34 GMT -5
And Hogan would be right. Otherwise, ROH and other wrestling oriented indies would be insanely popular. It will always be about the soap opera, characters, and spectacle. That's what draws in the viewers. Yet the ratings says that viewers turned away during the Jarrett/ Foley saga earlier in last month. It's good to have characters, drama, and spectacles. But don't forget you are presenting pro wrestling. UFC presents the same thing but they remember to sell the fight and the potential brutality and payoff. Aw thats disappointing. The Foley/Jarrett stuff was really intense, emotional, and with a sense of being real (even though it wasnt).. exactly what pro wrestling segments SHOULD be, I'd say. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 2, 2010 21:22:40 GMT -5
And Hogan would be right. Otherwise, ROH and other wrestling oriented indies would be insanely popular. It will always be about the soap opera, characters, and spectacle. That's what draws in the viewers. Yet the ratings says that viewers turned away during the Jarrett/ Foley saga earlier in last month. It's good to have characters, drama, and spectacles. But don't forget you are presenting pro wrestling. UFC presents the same thing but they remember to sell the fight and the potential brutality and payoff. Exactly, you need both to be successful in wrestling. The drama pulls them in and the matches are the payoff. If you do not have the matches, all drama, you may as well be watching primetime ABC/NBC/TNT/FOX/Whatever and, without the drama watch MMA. People know that Jarrett/Foley/Dixie will never happen in the ring so why bother and Kurt/Jeff just happened earlier this year so why watch? Wrestling has been it's most successful when it finds the right balance. Attitude Era with Austin/McMahon, nWo/WCW and so on had the right balance, Rock and Wrestling had it with Hogan/Heenan, Steamboat/Savage, Horsemen/Rhodes (and whoeverelse). Now there are fans that can and will watch mainly for in-ring action (that is where ROH comes in even though they do have out of ring drama) but, we are a minority. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 2, 2010 21:34:36 GMT -5
Did anybody read this. How relable is this story when it says stuff like RVD doing the Hulkamania tour. When RVD didn't work the tour.
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Post by donners on Jan 2, 2010 21:41:22 GMT -5
Aw thats disappointing. The Foley/Jarrett stuff was really intense, emotional, and with a sense of being real (even though it wasnt).. exactly what pro wrestling segments SHOULD be, I'd say. It also had a long and tedious build-up, and went into insider stuff. They didn't even reveal on-screen what they were talking about until Jarrett spoke with Carter. I can imagine plenty of people, who don't follow the newz sites, turning off in frustration before tehn. |
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Post by Parrish on Jan 2, 2010 21:43:41 GMT -5
Even though I am far from anything resembling a Pantera fan... I am so excited for this show for the hopes of hearing Walk again as Rob Van Dam's intro. your wishing, instead you will get a 2000 nokia ring tone style entrance theme for him |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 2, 2010 22:59:37 GMT -5
You know, if you want to find a way to balance sport with spectacle, look no further than top-flight boxing.
I swear, no sport does a better job of hyping up an imminent big moment like boxing does, just by playing loud music, having a few effects, and letting the cameras follow the fighters from the back all the way to the ring.
The core of all drama in wrestling should be the actual match that's happening, but it's not at all a bad thing to put some flourishes and trimmings around it.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 2, 2010 23:19:04 GMT -5
Everyone says Heyman is overated but he seriously can work wonders when he's booking. I hope he's onboard.
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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 3, 2010 0:47:10 GMT -5
Aw thats disappointing. The Foley/Jarrett stuff was really intense, emotional, and with a sense of being real (even though it wasnt).. exactly what pro wrestling segments SHOULD be, I'd say. It also had a long and tedious build-up, and went into insider stuff. They didn't even reveal on-screen what they were talking about until Jarrett spoke with Carter. I can imagine plenty of people, who don't follow the newz sites, turning off in frustration before tehn. You're definitely right about them not addressing what was going on between Jarrett and Angle and I feel they should have done a better job with that, you're right. Don't agree with the long and tedious buildup being a problem.. except for people that didn't know the newz stuff, yeah. Good point. Thats kinda what frustrated me, come to think of it, was that I loved how the angle was portrayed overall but wish they could do that kind of thing when it came to their actual wrestling angles. |
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jan 3, 2010 0:47:36 GMT -5
Impact kicks off with Heyman, Hogan, Bischoff, RVD, and Anderson in the ring together. They'll be there to present Duke Nukem Forever to the world |
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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 3, 2010 0:48:59 GMT -5
Impact kicks off with Heyman, Hogan, Bischoff, RVD, and Anderson in the ring together. They'll be there to present Duke Nukem Forever to the world And they'll come out to music from the new Guns N Roses album Chinese Democra- oh wait |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 3, 2010 0:56:07 GMT -5
Everyone says Heyman is overated but he seriously can work wonders when he's booking. I hope he's onboard. Same here. Heyman was a crappy businessman, but he's a flipping genius when it comes to getting stuff over. The guy made an American audience give a crap about Aldo Montoya, for crying out loud. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 3, 2010 2:47:56 GMT -5
Breaking News: there's a 50% chance the ghost of Bruiser Brody will make an appearance on Impact. Onita will show up riding Megumi Kudo and Hayabusa's coattails and challenge Robert Blake to a "Husband of the Year" match. |
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