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Post by Throwback on May 29, 2010 9:56:54 GMT -5
I remember him on the surreal life fighting with Vanilla ice because he wanted Gary to say "what chu talkin bout?"
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Post by forgottensinpwf on May 29, 2010 10:09:30 GMT -5
Well, at least he's been reuinted with his career. *sigh*
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Post by Throwback on May 29, 2010 10:18:56 GMT -5
Well, at least he's been reuinted with his career. You, know. I wouldn't have even seen this comment if people hadn't kept quoting it. So the people that are complaining about it are actually the ones who brought it to the forefront. there's something to think about.
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Post by thesunbeast on May 29, 2010 13:49:26 GMT -5
RIP Gary Coleman.
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Post by Wolfpack Bitch on May 29, 2010 14:21:29 GMT -5
Well, at least he's been reuinted with his career. Incredibly disrespectful and completely uncalled for. Rest in Peace Gary.
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Post by thesunbeast on May 29, 2010 14:42:44 GMT -5
On second thought, I'm adding another post here and allow me to vent out some of my frustrations at certain things I've been thinking about.
Here's my tribute to Gary Coleman.
The sad thing is, is that Gary Coleman has been taken advantage of by greedy agenda-filled opportunists, ideological bigots, and sensationalistic predators his whole entire life, right up until his final moments of life. Here's an example from about 3 months ago of more media sum, ratings-whores, and performance quacks exploiting Coleman some more:
Pathetic.
Gary Coleman then had a seizure right after the confrontation right there on the set.
So now, for my tribute, I am now going to completely take apart these absolutely ridiculous logical fallacies, ad-hominem attacks, red-herrings, and expose the garbage power-over-principle alternative motives and hidden agenda's of people like this on "the insider" and show you why you just shouldn't watch shows like "the insider". This will last as long as I'm in the mood.
The "are you going to hit me" kinds of comments are absolutely ridiculous. You have to start off with an assumtion 1st, and then when you see something, you say "that must be it". This line of thinking is just plain stupid, so either this "doctor" and the interviewers are stupid, or they're liars. I go for the latter. By the way, attacking and/or debunking the person's personality does not debunk their claim. It just shows that you have no case.
You have a red haired person walking down the street and he trips over a shoelace, so you say "well, that's just a mistake, they happen every day". But lets say you go back in time and someone says "you know, having red hair causes you to be extremely clumsy" and lets say you believe this. So you see a red haired person walking and he falls and trips, immediately in your bigot mind, you'll think you have the answer to this and blame the red hair and say "that must be it".
Now don't get me wrong, there are lots of things you CAN find answers to in life, but not based off of THIS kind of reasoning. Why the hell is this kind of reasoning on a tv show or the internet in places that are supposed to be reliable?
So you assume that this person is violent in the 1st place right off the bat, and when he starts to get a little bit irritated, you think he might hit you? Ok, THAT's if you are thinking "hit" in your mind. If your mind has been poisoned by all of the school shootings like this represents the norm, then the next time someone get's angry, are you going to say "hey, watch out, he might shoot everyone here"? Oh wait, that's right, we have the post-office examples to go by. So this already has happened and people really do think this way, as dumb as it is. It's ok to think this dumb in your everyday life, but please, stop exploiting people with this kind of logic for tv.
"does he speak this way to his wife" mabe, I've been told worse and have never beat a woman, so perhaps people are supposed to be raised with a silver, platnum, gold, diamond, and emerald spoon in their big fat mouth like the interviewer is implying to be the standard so much so that a "normal" person has never been insulted or gotten angry, or else things like wife-beating might happen.
Anyway, all of this are many variations that were used of something called "begging the question", where you assume the conclusion offhand within the point that you're supposed to be trying to prove.
Then we have doctor quack. Quacker Oaf here, who is a 'behavioral psychologist and expert", who apparently doesn't know as much as me (or he's lying) ends up giving advise to the panel about how they should get their ratings and how it's supposed to work. The panel magically takes his advice. No, I'm sorry mr behavioral philosopher-er-I mean psychologist, but the ends don't justify the means. Picking on Gary Coleman for ratings doesn't make it right just because you get better ratings, it ain't worth devaluing a human soul. But, following your logic to it's logical conclusion, I should just toss you off a high building and hope you don't hit anything on the way down. Afterall it might make Gary's family feel better, and I was indeed hoping that you didn't hit anything.
Anyway this is a stupid logical fallacy "argument from athorty", which is to say, that a person with high status says something, therefore it must be true. Look, logic is drawing conclusions from premises that follow, not from any old premises. So no matter who you are, if the person is not drawing their conclusions from premises that follow, you might want to question them just a little bit. Doctor behavioral acting philosophy is just another regurgitator.
Case in point: "He needs medicine". MEDICINE?! That's your answer? "I give up, lets not cure the problem, lets just hide it (and make more money)? That's your answer hey. So now you're a behavioral psychologist philosopher psychiatrist? This outright exposes the psuedoscience of psychiatry anyway (that's another topic) and also show the nonchalance of the educated drug-dealers and how they are ever so quick to use a bunch of logical fallacies and their own subjective personal tastes in order to infer, and then induce, $drugs$ as the answer.
No wonder people like Gary Coleman, as a famous person, can go crazy. I feel bad for him, but, politically incorrect people who are not afraid to look at something for what it really is can learn from these kinds of rhetoric and practices.
RIP Gary Coleman.
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Post by Celgress on May 29, 2010 14:50:47 GMT -5
Poor Gary Coleman, I only hope he can find the peace in death that eluded him in life. You deserved better Gary, you deserved better.
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Post by Rorschach on May 29, 2010 15:09:23 GMT -5
RIP, Gary. You brought a lot of joy to a lot of people, and you brightened my childhood quite a bit with your acting on "Diffrn't Strokes".
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Post by jobber2thestars on May 29, 2010 19:15:21 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to do something that doesn't get done much on the internet: apologize. My comment saying that Gary Coleman has been reunited with his career was in bad taste, and seems to have offended a few people. It was a bad attempt at a joke, and I apologize for making it.
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Post by fw91 on May 29, 2010 20:58:31 GMT -5
On second thought, I'm adding another post here and allow me to vent out some of my frustrations at certain things I've been thinking about. Here's my tribute to Gary Coleman. The sad thing is, is that Gary Coleman has been taken advantage of by greedy agenda-filled opportunists, ideological bigots, and sensationalistic predators his whole entire life, right up until his final moments of life. Here's an example from about 3 months ago of more media sum, ratings-whores, and performance quacks exploiting Coleman some more: Pathetic. Gary Coleman then had a seizure right after the confrontation right there on the set. So now, for my tribute, I am now going to completely take apart these absolutely ridiculous logical fallacies, ad-hominem attacks, red-herrings, and expose the garbage power-over-principle alternative motives and hidden agenda's of people like this on "the insider" and show you why you just shouldn't watch shows like "the insider". This will last as long as I'm in the mood. The "are you going to hit me" kinds of comments are absolutely ridiculous. You have to start off with an assumtion 1st, and then when you see something, you say "that must be it". This line of thinking is just plain stupid, so either this "doctor" and the interviewers are stupid, or they're liars. I go for the latter. By the way, attacking and/or debunking the person's personality does not debunk their claim. It just shows that you have no case. You have a red haired person walking down the street and he trips over a shoelace, so you say "well, that's just a mistake, they happen every day". But lets say you go back in time and someone says "you know, having red hair causes you to be extremely clumsy" and lets say you believe this. So you see a red haired person walking and he falls and trips, immediately in your bigot mind, you'll think you have the answer to this and blame the red hair and say "that must be it". Now don't get me wrong, there are lots of things you CAN find answers to in life, but not based off of THIS kind of reasoning. Why the hell is this kind of reasoning on a tv show or the internet in places that are supposed to be reliable? So you assume that this person is violent in the 1st place right off the bat, and when he starts to get a little bit irritated, you think he might hit you? Ok, THAT's if you are thinking "hit" in your mind. If your mind has been poisoned by all of the school shootings like this represents the norm, then the next time someone get's angry, are you going to say "hey, watch out, he might shoot everyone here"? Oh wait, that's right, we have the post-office examples to go by. So this already has happened and people really do think this way, as dumb as it is. It's ok to think this dumb in your everyday life, but please, stop exploiting people with this kind of logic for tv. "does he speak this way to his wife" mabe, I've been told worse and have never beat a woman, so perhaps people are supposed to be raised with a silver, platnum, gold, diamond, and emerald spoon in their big fat mouth like the interviewer is implying to be the standard so much so that a "normal" person has never been insulted or gotten angry, or else things like wife-beating might happen. Anyway, all of this are many variations that were used of something called "begging the question", where you assume the conclusion offhand within the point that you're supposed to be trying to prove. Then we have doctor quack. Quacker Oaf here, who is a 'behavioral psychologist and expert", who apparently doesn't know as much as me (or he's lying) ends up giving advise to the panel about how they should get their ratings and how it's supposed to work. The panel magically takes his advice. No, I'm sorry mr behavioral philosopher-er-I mean psychologist, but the ends don't justify the means. Picking on Gary Coleman for ratings doesn't make it right just because you get better ratings, it ain't worth devaluing a human soul. But, following your logic to it's logical conclusion, I should just toss you off a high building and hope you don't hit anything on the way down. Afterall it might make Gary's family feel better, and I was indeed hoping that you didn't hit anything. Anyway this is a stupid logical fallacy "argument from athorty", which is to say, that a person with high status says something, therefore it must be true. Look, logic is drawing conclusions from premises that follow, not from any old premises. So no matter who you are, if the person is not drawing their conclusions from premises that follow, you might want to question them just a little bit. Doctor behavioral acting philosophy is just another regurgitator. Case in point: "He needs medicine". MEDICINE?! That's your answer? "I give up, lets not cure the problem, lets just hide it (and make more money)? That's your answer hey. So now you're a behavioral psychologist philosopher psychiatrist? This outright exposes the psuedoscience of psychiatry anyway (that's another topic) and also show the nonchalance of the educated drug-dealers and how they are ever so quick to use a bunch of logical fallacies and their own subjective personal tastes in order to infer, and then induce, $drugs$ as the answer. No wonder people like Gary Coleman, as a famous person, can go crazy. I feel bad for him, but, politically incorrect people who are not afraid to look at something for what it really is can learn from these kinds of rhetoric and practices. RIP Gary Coleman. wow what a c***. gary had every right to do what he did there
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 23:58:51 GMT -5
Damn, that's out of nowhere - as one would expect from a fall, I suppose.
Is especially odd since just a couple of days ago was wondering when WWE would have him host Raw.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on May 30, 2010 1:29:19 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to do something that doesn't get done much on the internet: apologize. My comment saying that Gary Coleman has been reunited with his career was in bad taste, and seems to have offended a few people. It was a bad attempt at a joke, and I apologize for making it. I laughed at your Gary Coleman joke because it was funny. People are far too sensitive these days about people they don't know. Don't let a bunch of people seemingly piggy-backing off of his death to get themselves over get you down. (Tribute Banners? Really?). You didn't make fun of a dead family member of theirs. You made a quick harmless joke about someone that two days ago no one thought twice about making fun of. Don't think his joke is funny? Cool. Feel the need to expound your sudden admiration for obscure celebrities that haven't crossed your mind whilst they were, you know, living? That’s cool, too. But don't get all self-righteous and judgmental. Dude didn't say he was glad he was dead. He simply made a joke. Get over yourselves and start paying attention and paying tribute to the living. Celebrity death. Making instant Saints out of people whom were life-long comic fodder since 2007. (cough*Anna Nicole*cough.).
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Post by Throwback on May 30, 2010 1:38:32 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to do something that doesn't get done much on the internet: apologize. My comment saying that Gary Coleman has been reunited with his career was in bad taste, and seems to have offended a few people. It was a bad attempt at a joke, and I apologize for making it. I laughed at your Gary Coleman joke because it was funny. People are far too sensitive these days about people they don't know. Don't let a bunch of people seemingly piggy-backing off of his death to get themselves over get you down. (Tribute Banners? Really?). You didn't make fun of a dead family member of theirs. You made a quick harmless joke about someone that two days ago no one thought twice about making fun of. Don't think his joke is funny? Cool. Feel the need to expound your sudden admiration for obscure celebrities that haven't crossed your mind whilst they were, you know, living? That’s cool, too. But don't get all self-righteous and judgmental. Dude didn't say he was glad he was dead. He simply made a joke. Get over yourselves and start paying attention and paying tribute to the living. Celebrity death. Making instant Saints out of people whom were life-long comic fodder since 2007. (cough*Anna Nicole*cough.). reminds of a song called "top blokes after death" language
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Post by Wolfpack Bitch on May 30, 2010 1:45:18 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to do something that doesn't get done much on the internet: apologize. My comment saying that Gary Coleman has been reunited with his career was in bad taste, and seems to have offended a few people. It was a bad attempt at a joke, and I apologize for making it. I laughed at your Gary Coleman joke because it was funny. People are far too sensitive these days about people they don't know. Don't let a bunch of people seemingly piggy-backing off of his death to get themselves over get you down. (Tribute Banners? Really?). You didn't make fun of a dead family member of theirs. You made a quick harmless joke about someone that two days ago no one thought twice about making fun of. Don't think his joke is funny? Cool. Feel the need to expound your sudden admiration for obscure celebrities that haven't crossed your mind whilst they were, you know, living? That’s cool, too. But don't get all self-righteous and judgmental. Dude didn't say he was glad he was dead. He simply made a joke. Get over yourselves and start paying attention and paying tribute to the living. Celebrity death. Making instant Saints out of people whom were life-long comic fodder since 2007. (cough*Anna Nicole*cough.). It has nothing to do with "admiration for obscure celebrities". It has everything to do with being respectful of the dead. If you cannot understand that concept, you need not post or reply in threads about deceased celebrities. Jobber2thestars, I for one appreciate the apology. Thank you. The rest of you need to take the approach of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".
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Post by Throwback on May 30, 2010 3:56:41 GMT -5
Todd Bridges (Willis Jackson), Janet Jackson (Charlene DuPrey aka Willis's Girlfriend) and Conrad Bain (Mr Drummond) comment on the death of Diff'rent Strokes Co-Star Gary Coleman (Arnold Jackson) Todd Bridges via twitter - "It's sad that I'm the last kid alive from the show, I am deeply saddened by Gary's death. May God give him peace," www.nbcconnecticut.com/entertainment/television/Todd-Bridges-Sadden-by-News-of-Colemans-Death--95195824.htmlConrad Bain said He fondly remembers the days spent with the then child star, on the sets of the series. However, he admitted that he had not spoken to the actor in years, stressing that the gap in communication had not pushed him out of his mind. In fact, it is not only that Conrad Bain is remembering his former co-star, after his death. Even when he had been hospitalized with intercranial hemorrhage, fighting for his life, Conrad Bain had commented that Gary Coleman was always on his mind, saying that he had never failed to say a prayer ever since he had got the news of the latter’s illness. www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/conrad-bain-speaks-on-gary-coleman_100371934.htmlJanet Jackson - "I'm at a loss for words upon learning of Gary Coleman's passing, I want to remember him as the fun, playful, adorable and affectionate man he was. He has left a lasting legacy. I know he is finally at peace." ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b183489_janet_jackson_todd_bridges_remember.html?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 30, 2010 8:01:47 GMT -5
It does seem as though every celebrity death thread has the same qualities:
-Many people say RIP and nothing else -Someone makes a bad joke -Someone asks if people will stop dying -Someone says celebs are no different than anyone else -Someone says "I was just watching them on _____________."
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Post by thesunbeast on May 30, 2010 21:34:17 GMT -5
It does seem as though every celebrity death thread has the same qualities: -Many people say RIP and nothing else -Someone makes a bad joke -Someone asks if people will stop dying -Someone says celebs are no different than anyone else -Someone says "I was just watching them on _____________." Yeah I think that people are becoming desensitized after all of the deaths that are happening. People are just running out of things to say and people are getting less and less shocked, unfortunately. Proof is the fact that you are aware of the tpes of things the people here say at death threads. How many have we had here now? The last couple of years have had alot of losses of wrestlers and/or celebs. I say atleast 20 overall within the last 3 years.
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Post by ani on Jun 7, 2010 14:55:17 GMT -5
This story has made a absolutely sick turn as Gary's wife is using his death to make money including having people take tours of the place where he hit his head and selling DEATH PHOTOS: www.tmz.com/2010/06/07/gary-coleman-death-photo-for-sale/3/(Note: No death photos here. Link is safe. TMZ wouldn't even look at most of them.) The comments are hilarious though, pointing out how hypocritical TMZ is here. ;D
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Post by Orange on Jun 7, 2010 14:58:58 GMT -5
This story has made a absolutely sick turn as Gary's wife is using his death to make money including having people take tours of the place where he hit his head and selling DEATH PHOTOS: www.tmz.com/2010/06/07/gary-coleman-death-photo-for-sale/3/(Note: No death photos here. Link is safe. TMZ wouldn't even look at most of them.) The comments are hilarious though, pointing out how hypocritical TMZ is here. ;D Jesus that is pathetic, I wasn't even a fan of Gary Coleman but is it that hard for his own wife to have a little respect for him? EDIT - This is my favorite comment on the article, so true
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jun 7, 2010 15:06:23 GMT -5
This story has made a absolutely sick turn as Gary's wife is using his death to make money including having people take tours of the place where he hit his head and selling DEATH PHOTOS: www.tmz.com/2010/06/07/gary-coleman-death-photo-for-sale/3/(Note: No death photos here. Link is safe. TMZ wouldn't even look at most of them.) The comments are hilarious though, pointing out how hypocritical TMZ is here. ;D at first I was.. For the thought of people selling death photos of Gary. Ben then I was.. For the much deserved TMZ bashing.
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