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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Aug 31, 2010 18:03:20 GMT -5
Just curious what you guys and gals think would be some of your nominees so far (since we're now at the end of August) for the Gooker?
Just to start it off, I'd throw out:
BTLS in TNA
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The Band in TNA
Since the Hogan/Bischoff era can't be inducted while it's still ongoing, what others would you nominate?
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Post by bob on Aug 31, 2010 21:20:52 GMT -5
Abyss with the one ring to rule them all
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Post by crash1984 on Sept 1, 2010 7:55:54 GMT -5
Strange I came in here to make the same topic.
Here are some I could see this year. Honestly WWE has not done anything really Gookerworthy thus far. I believe this will be the year TNA finally gets one that is long overdue.
NXT-Yeah it gave us Nexus, however there was also a lot of stupid diva search quality stuff on there such as the kissing contest, the obstacle courses, and the punching bag thing none of which had anything to do with wrestling.
Raw guest hosts/Stars-Thankfully WWE finally got wise and toned it down considerably however that did not mean they got any better. When nearly every week you have a potential future Wrestlecrap Induction, something is wrong.
Hornswoggle as the DX Mascot-Since it was ongoing at the end of last year it was not eligible however it ended this year and needs at least a nominee
The Hogan-Bischoff Regime-I know this is an on-going thing so if this can not be done then that is fine. However there are things the Hogan and Bischoff regime has brought us, that are done and over with that are Gookerworthy.
TNA signing all the has-beens and never-weres-I do think some signings in TNA such as Anderson and even Van Dam to a certain point were good calls. However a lot of people should have never even been thought of such as The Nasty Boys, Shannon Moore, Hall, Syxx-Pac, Orlando Jordon, and Bubba the Love Sponge.
Hogan vs. Flair-Including the match they were in on that one Impact, but also that entire mess over the hall of fame rings.
The killing of the Knockout Division-One area where TNA beat WWE big time was with their women's division. As soon as Hogan and Bischoff come along that was the end of that. Includes Kong leaving due to Bubba the Love Sponge and TNA trying to use Lottalove as Kong's replacement.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 2, 2010 0:49:46 GMT -5
I'd forgotten that Horny as the DX mascot was still going on for this year.
However, I'd like to see a different storyline win, as it would be a 3rd win for Hornswoggle.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Sept 2, 2010 3:03:44 GMT -5
NXT in general would be my personal pick. Including the fact that they canceled a show that in retrospect is seen as the best wrestling show available at the time so that we could have the train wreck that we see today. So many things in NXT were future inductions, including...
Daniel Bryan's losing streak... Wtf was that? I'm pretty sure they were trying to build him as the underdog but they failed MISERABLY and ended up completely burying him. I'm also pretty sure that him getting eliminated early was because they realized the failure and were pressing the ABORT! ABORT! button, so that they could shift him to Raw and start an angle with Miz to save his credibility. Then they aborted THAT because they wanted to do the Nexus angle... Annnnnd then he got fired.
Mustache - when one of the worst talkers corpses every time he's on screen with you because you cut such a bad promo, you know something's wrong.
Stupid challenges - they jobbed to SODA.
Kissing contest - deserves its own induction.
The theme song that never was
The final episode of NXT2
And I'm sure there's about a thousand future Crap inductions awaiting us next season.
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Post by crash1984 on Sept 7, 2010 7:28:59 GMT -5
Thought of another one. The whole e-mail GM thing.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 7, 2010 15:41:17 GMT -5
Thought of another one. The whole e-mail GM thing. Unfortunately, it's still going, so it can't be a candidate.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 7, 2010 15:51:58 GMT -5
Raw Is Macgruber: Possibly the worst GM skit to date, complete with R-Truth getting blown up and miraculously showing up on NXT the next day.
The Saga of Daniel Bryan: Either a sponsor or Linda's Senate campaign gets overzealous with WWE being PG, and a major new star gets released for choking someone with a tie. Possibly vindicated when Bryan was re-hired.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Sept 7, 2010 16:20:25 GMT -5
Raw is MacGruber and A-Team on Raw both sound like Gooker-worthy inductions - A-Team would at least be hilarious to read, considering it was about Roddy Piper hiring Ted DiBiase, Jr. to abduct the guy who played the same character as Mr. T...and then...Dusty Rhodes saves the day? WHAT?
Some individual NXT skits could work, but the beatdown at the end of NXT2 is the only one that really felt big enough to count. And even then it's pretty borderline - sure, it was a hilarious botch-a-thon, but is that really a Gooker?
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Post by Raging_Demons on Sept 7, 2010 16:54:05 GMT -5
Just curious what you guys and gals think would be some of your nominees so far (since we're now at the end of August) for the Gooker? Just to start it off, I'd throw out: BTLS in TNA and The Band in TNA Since the Hogan/Bischoff era can't be inducted while it's still ongoing, what others would you nominate? You can. "The Bischoff-Hogan Era, the first few months!" If TNA's first few months on TV with Mr. Cheeks, The Johnsons, & Puppet having some "self love" in a trash can can all be inducted. Why not that?
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Post by kingoftheiwc on Sept 7, 2010 19:31:03 GMT -5
NXT Season 2 and 3 just because they didnt have talent associated with them.
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Post by Shaun2k5 on Sept 7, 2010 22:20:30 GMT -5
Any PPV title match with John Cena in 2010 Cellotape. Nexus Run ins. Awful I quit matches. Cena really hasn't done anything for the title this year.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 8, 2010 1:31:37 GMT -5
Just curious what you guys and gals think would be some of your nominees so far (since we're now at the end of August) for the Gooker? Just to start it off, I'd throw out: BTLS in TNA and The Band in TNA Since the Hogan/Bischoff era can't be inducted while it's still ongoing, what others would you nominate? You can. "The Bischoff-Hogan Era, the first few months!" If TNA's first few months on TV with Mr. Cheeks, The Johnsons, & Puppet having some "self love" in a trash can can all be inducted. Why not that? I don't think the Hogan Bischoff era can be inducted/nominated for the Gooker until it's over. The first few months thing was inducted well after 2002, IIRC.
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Post by mongomcmichael on Sept 8, 2010 19:13:17 GMT -5
I think Season 1 of NXT is a likely candidate. Too many silly challenges and the jobberification of Danielson.
Also, the whole Macgruber thing sucked too. Hell, throw in the movie itself (a couple of WWE stars like Jericho, Kane, and Mark Henry appeared) and you got a strong frontrunner for Gooker.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 26, 2010 2:22:28 GMT -5
How about Joe getting "kidnapped", taping a message on a crappy camera one week, and a couple of weeks later, showing up without explanation of what the heck happened.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Sept 26, 2010 2:45:30 GMT -5
At this point, if NXT doesn't get the Gooker I'll be shocked. The only thing even near that same level this year has been the Hogan/Bischoff regime, and I doubt that'll be over in time.
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Post by Raging_Demons on Sept 26, 2010 4:00:50 GMT -5
Don't forget. Even though it has been inducted. Piggy James is still possible for Gooker per Deal.
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Post by Incognito on Sept 26, 2010 4:11:19 GMT -5
At this point, if NXT doesn't get the Gooker I'll be shocked. The only thing even near that same level this year has been the Hogan/Bischoff regime, and I doubt that'll be over in time. Agreed. If the Hogan/Bischoff regime was over I would vote for that. Since it's not, I'm thinking NXT has a good chance.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 26, 2010 6:26:13 GMT -5
If TNA does not win it with the Abyss saga, I will be mighty pissed. Let's recap.
Hulk Hogan gives TNA his Hall of Fame ring, right in the month of March. What else happens in the wrestling world in March? THE WWE HALL OF FAME! Thanks for the free advertising, Dixie!
This ring gives Abyss superpowers, like the ability to create dangerous pits in the ring. Later, Abyss claims that it was nothing more than a confidence boost, but it still does nothing to explain why he was doing superhuman things like breaking handcuffs and slamming AJ Styles through the ring.
Abyss then turns heel in the buildup for his four way TNA title match, essentially backstabbing Hogan because he is the reason Abyss has a title shot in the first place (thanks Russo). He even tries to shove the ring down Hogan's throat, even though it was giving him superpowers a major confidence boost. Along the way, he turns down a chance to become Chelsea's hook-up, which makes him a bigger idiot than anything else I can say.
The reason Abyss turns heel is to become the spokesperson for THEM, and THEY promise to take Dixie, Hulk, and Bischoff out of power for good in TNA. This storyline is drawn out months past its expiration date, and only the biggest of surprises (like having John Cena or Nexus show up) will save it from becoming a disappointment.
THEY are strongly hinted to be ECW EV2, to the point where the opening to a TNA PPV is footage of Tommy Dreamer and EV2 superimposed to sound bytes of Abyss taking about how THEY are coming. Note that Abyss is cut from the same hardcore cloth as these guys, so this would make sense.
Of course, because this does make sense, it turns out that EV2 are not THEY, and that all it led to was another Gooker candidate, HardCore Justice. We are then to believe that Fourtune is THEY, to the point to where Abyss and Fourtune collaborated on the first attack on EV2. We eventually find out that this is not the case, even though it makes sense logically as well.
Speaking of the attack on EV2, in the weeks preceding the attack, Abyss starts carrying around a dangerous nailboard that he refers to as "Janice". In a pseudo-sport where barbed wire and staple guns are regularly used, this board is considered even worse than those weapons, and it is wholly unrealistic that anyone but Abyss himself is going to take a live hit with this weapon, if his last few toys are any indication. During that attack, we cut backstage to where Abyss has used this weapon to injure RVD off camera. They tried their hardest to make it look as grizzly as possible, so of course Abyss received no punishment for essentially attemping to murder the World Champion!!!! Instead, Dixie and company hold Flair accountable, and he gets the quickest suspension in wrestling history.
Abyss has now promised to reveal the identities of THEY at Bound for Glory on 10/10/10. To prove this point, Abyss brought out a branding iron known as "Bob" and he starts branding stagehands in a secret torture chamber in the Impact Zone. Dixie Carter does not seem to care that her employees are being tortured in a remote location in her building. Like the attack on RVD, nobody thinks to get the police involved at all, and it really does nothing to make Abyss look any more of a threat.
Now, about two months later after his attempted murder, RVD comes back and will face Abyss at BFG. This is the man that two months ago, had a laundry list of injuries so severe than anyone who actually suffered those injuries would probably be in a coma for the rest of their life. Yet, RVD is coming back the same night his title will be won by some one else. Given the match order, he will make his comeback before the title is even won by the new champ. *facepalm*
Have I missed anything so far? The major reason why this should win as opposed to NXT Season 3 (or any other part of the show itself) is that NXT is the C-show of the WWE, and is really nothing more than an experiment on its own island. Season 3 almost seems to designed to appeal to this site, and it is working, because at least people watch the show willingly to laugh at it.This is TNA's main show, and this is the crap that are presenting as top tier.
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Post by Raging_Demons on Sept 26, 2010 16:24:29 GMT -5
You can. "The Bischoff-Hogan Era, the first few months!" If TNA's first few months on TV with Mr. Cheeks, The Johnsons, & Puppet having some "self love" in a trash can can all be inducted. Why not that? I don't think the Hogan Bischoff era can be inducted/nominated for the Gooker until it's over. The first few months thing was inducted well after 2002, IIRC. Well a PART of the Hogan Bischoff Era CAN be inducted. "The Monday Night Wars 2": Dixie & the Hulkster declare war on WWE's RAW by moving TNA Impact to Mondays. In the end Impact got slaughtered in the ratings & moved back to Thursdays. Some of the story lines used during that time for Impact can be used as a case for it.
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