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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 3, 2010 18:10:22 GMT -5
yes they have. Implied during the Hush storyline, and canonical (but mostly off-panel) as of Ed Brubaker's run on Batman.
as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, but they haven;t been able to confirm it due to media watchdogs. ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies.
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Post by Cela on Jul 3, 2010 18:14:08 GMT -5
yes they have. Implied during the Hush storyline, and canonical (but mostly off-panel) as of Ed Brubaker's run on Batman. as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, but they haven;t been able to confirm it due to media watchdogs. ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Well Wonder Woman is pretty easy to understand, what with growing up on Themiscyira and all. And now cosplaying as 90s Superboy(TR). But I thought Canary was joinedat the hip with Green Arrow.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 3, 2010 18:32:17 GMT -5
/\ she was, at least until that terrible Cry for Justice miniseries. bisexual people can have long term monogamous relationships just like anyone else, as most of them do in real life.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 3, 2010 19:13:40 GMT -5
as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, Eeh, I always said it's HEAVILY implied but there's never been anything to confirm it. I don't see what you mean about watchdogs. They made Kathy Kane and Renee Montoya a couple for no real reason other than diversity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2010 19:27:35 GMT -5
I saw that Batman XXX porno that recently came out and Catwoman did it with Batman and Robin at the same time.
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Post by sunwukong on Jul 3, 2010 20:49:39 GMT -5
/\ she was, at least until that terrible Cry for Justice miniseries. bisexual people can have long term monogamous relationships just like anyone else, as most of them do in real life. I think the point he was trying to make is that there's very little (if any) textual evidence to support Canary being bisexual, with the vast majority of her romantic pursuit featuring Green Arrow in some way.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Jul 3, 2010 22:19:00 GMT -5
Ed Brubaker made this canon somehow?
I know Batman had sex (as Bruce Wayne) with Wonder Woman, right?
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Post by Cela on Jul 4, 2010 1:06:18 GMT -5
Ed Brubaker made this canon somehow? I know Batman had sex (as Bruce Wayne) with Wonder Woman, right? According to "I'm a Marvel,I'm a DC"
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jul 4, 2010 3:07:40 GMT -5
There was going to be a scene written in Hush of them doing it with their masks on, but one of the editors told Jeph Loeb that there was no way they were going to be able to put out a comic book where a nude Batman is shown on panel doing the horizontal Batusi with Catwoman.
So I think that's a pretty big yes.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2010 7:21:38 GMT -5
/\ she was, at least until that terrible Cry for Justice miniseries. bisexual people can have long term monogamous relationships just like anyone else, as most of them do in real life. I think the point he was trying to make is that there's very little (if any) textual evidence to support Canary being bisexual, with the vast majority of her romantic pursuit featuring Green Arrow in some way. that's what I said. there isn't textual evidence, just writers saying that they are but that they aren't allowed to put it in the book ala Dumbeldore.
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Post by Scorpina on Jul 4, 2010 7:26:20 GMT -5
ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Wasn't the point of that that Gail wanted to have Canary say she had bi-leanings but the editors wouldn't let her, so canonically she'd be straight? I know Batman had sex (as Bruce Wayne) with Wonder Woman, right? I don't remember ever seeing this referecned in a comic, and I have quite a lot of Wonder Woman comics... Um, it is pretty much stated in Blackest Night that Diana is in love with Bruce though.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 4, 2010 7:37:36 GMT -5
as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, Eeh, I always said it's HEAVILY implied but there's never been anything to confirm it. I don't see what you mean about watchdogs. They made Kathy Kane and Renee Montoya a couple for no real reason other than diversity. How often have Kathy and Renee had relationships? Like Northstar at Marvel, he's gay, but I've only ever seen him have a boyfriend once. On an anthology story of 5 pages. Who he was breaking up with in the story. Often they'll say a character's gay, but that's all.
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Post by Scorpina on Jul 4, 2010 7:44:20 GMT -5
Renee had at least three different sexual partners during 52, and Kate has had a couple since in Detective Comics. This on top of their Hogan/Savage like relationship with each other. So, yeah, they're shown to have relationships.
Would this be different if they were dudes, and thus there was no excuse to draw naked ladies? Probably.
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Post by darthalexander on Jul 4, 2010 14:15:36 GMT -5
yes they have. Implied during the Hush storyline, and canonical (but mostly off-panel) as of Ed Brubaker's run on Batman. as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, but they haven;t been able to confirm it due to media watchdogs. ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Harley and Ivy got it on and WW and BC are bi? Where was this stuff "revealed"? I can see Harley and Ivy being ignored by the media, even Black Canary, but if there was a suggestion that Wonder Woman was it'd probably be all over the media. If the Batman/Catwoman thing ever happened that would be in the media as well. You can almost see it- talk shows going on about porn in comics, etc... Isn't Batwoman supposed to be gay as well?
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Jul 4, 2010 14:26:04 GMT -5
Eeh, I always said it's HEAVILY implied but there's never been anything to confirm it. I don't see what you mean about watchdogs. They made Kathy Kane and Renee Montoya a couple for no real reason other than diversity. How often have Kathy and Renee had relationships? Like Northstar at Marvel, he's gay, but I've only ever seen him have a boyfriend once. On an anthology story of 5 pages. Who he was breaking up with in the story. Often they'll say a character's gay, but that's all. Thread Win.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 4, 2010 17:00:44 GMT -5
yes they have. Implied during the Hush storyline, and canonical (but mostly off-panel) as of Ed Brubaker's run on Batman. as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, but they haven;t been able to confirm it due to media watchdogs. ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Harley and Ivy got it on and WW and BC are bi? Where was this stuff "revealed"? I can see Harley and Ivy being ignored by the media, even Black Canary, but if there was a suggestion that Wonder Woman was it'd probably be all over the media. If the Batman/Catwoman thing ever happened that would be in the media as well. You can almost see it- talk shows going on about porn in comics, etc... Isn't Batwoman supposed to be gay as well? The thing about Harley and Ivy is that it's there but only if you're really looking for it. I'm of the opinion that's it's more like Ivy is a mother figure to Harley. Black Canary, I dunno where that came from since she's pretty much always canonically paired with Ollie. Wonder Woman is simple. She grew up on an island entirely of other women, her primary enemies in the 70's were a group of lesbians (seriously), that book Seduction of the Innocent, which led to the Comics Code coming in, came straight out and called her a lesbian (it also famously said Batman and Robin were gay) and there's stuff like this: But to my knowledge she's never been anything other than canonically straight.
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Post by Celgress on Jul 4, 2010 17:33:18 GMT -5
Of course
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2010 17:40:40 GMT -5
ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Wasn't the point of that that Gail wanted to have Canary say she had bi-leanings but the editors wouldn't let her, so canonically she'd be straight? I know Batman had sex (as Bruce Wayne) with Wonder Woman, right? I don't remember ever seeing this referecned in a comic, and I have quite a lot of Wonder Woman comics... Um, it is pretty much stated in Blackest Night that Diana is in love with Bruce though. it was a typo actually, the dialogue was actually written where Dinah says she's only 70% hetero or something, but it printed wrong and then she couldn't go back and fix it. this was back when BOP was a small title with a small audience, so she could've gotten away with it then. nowadays Black Canary's back to being A-list so chances of it ever being written are near nil. so we'll just have to take the writers word for it I guess. and I thought that Wonder Woman having a thing for Batman was way out of left field. I'd be glad if it never got mentioned again. it was cute in the cartoon but Wonder Woman in the comics is really different from the one in the cartoon.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2010 17:43:00 GMT -5
yes they have. Implied during the Hush storyline, and canonical (but mostly off-panel) as of Ed Brubaker's run on Batman. as far as I know, Harley and Ivy is canon, but they haven;t been able to confirm it due to media watchdogs. ditto about Wonder Woman (and Black Canary as of a recent Gail Simone blog) being bisexual. but not with eachother sillies. Harley and Ivy got it on and WW and BC are bi? Where was this stuff "revealed"? I can see Harley and Ivy being ignored by the media, even Black Canary, but if there was a suggestion that Wonder Woman was it'd probably be all over the media. If the Batman/Catwoman thing ever happened that would be in the media as well. You can almost see it- talk shows going on about porn in comics, etc... Isn't Batwoman supposed to be gay as well? it's like I said. the writers (Gail Simone, Greg Rucka and George Perez, the 3 most important Wonder Woman writers) all said that Wondy was bisexual, they just aren't allowed to make it explicit. considering the kind of guy Wondy's creator was, he'd probably agree with them.
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Post by paulbearer on Jul 5, 2010 18:13:00 GMT -5
Been readin Burt Wards book , have we.....lol !!! Holy indecency , Batman *shocked*
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