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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 20:43:22 GMT -5
More detailed report of the main event. I have a theory that if DVD and ticket sales weren't increasing, Chikara would pull the plug on BDK. They wouldn't have had them win on their biggest DVD seller of the year if they didn't move DVD's and ticket sales. Well KoT is going to sell well regardless. I think sales afterward are what Chikara is going to check on.
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Post by invaderdave on Apr 25, 2010 21:23:18 GMT -5
Jesus guys, they CHEATED. CHEATED CHEATED CHEATED CHEATED CHEATED.
This is what heels do. They do very bad things. If anything CHIKARA looks better for this because they knew they couldn't beat the Colony in a fair fight.
And everyone needs to stop the nWo comparisons, right quick. Right now, we're in the first stage of BDK, where they looked like a major threat, and CHIKARA is on the run. If by next year, BDK has won every tournament CHIKARA holds cleanly, then you guys have a case, but until then, I'm not buying it.
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Post by Error on Apr 25, 2010 21:26:00 GMT -5
So how long before Coolio or whatever the lazy Canuck's name is makes an appearance to set things straight?
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Post by invaderdave on Apr 25, 2010 21:30:22 GMT -5
Brought to my attention; Every lower tier member of BDK lost this weekend, clean as a sheet. The upper tier members needed a Tommy Young/Nick Patrick in their pocket.
I really hope just because you don't want these guys to win that you can't keep your heads straight, guys.
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 25, 2010 21:39:07 GMT -5
Im sick of hearing that there feeding homegrown Talent to BDK only a couple of guys arnt homegown. Quack trained half of them. Its not nWo. nWo were outsiders all but one guy wrestled in Chikara before.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 25, 2010 22:03:37 GMT -5
Im sick of hearing that there feeding homegrown Talent to BDK only a couple of guys arnt homegown. Quack trained half of them. Its not nWo. nWo were outsiders all but one guy wrestled in Chikara before. It's less a "homegrown" debate than it is a "they never freakin' lose"(up until this weekend) debate. As it stands, the only Chikara guys that look any good after this weekend are The Colony and Incoherence. Everyone else looks like chumps. EDIT: Also, evil ref angles suck. All it winds up doing is making the guys that lose look like morons for even agreeing to a match officiated by an obviously biased official. The babyfaces may as well just lay down.
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Post by invaderdave on Apr 25, 2010 22:09:02 GMT -5
For what its worth, I don't think TFIN should have even gone to the Finals. The Colony is the true technico trio of CHIKARA, as well as the best booked team in the last two years. They should have gone to the finals, and the only way they should have lost was through savage cheatery.
The deck is completely stacked against the CHIKARA boys. The company is being run by a BDK sympathizer for crying out loud. This is booking 101 guys; the good guys are going to lose until somebody decides to shape up or ship out.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 25, 2010 22:20:38 GMT -5
For what its worth, I don't think TFIN should have even gone to the Finals. The Colony is the true technico trio of CHIKARA, as well as the best booked team in the last two years. They should have gone to the finals, and the only way they should have lost was through savage cheatery. The deck is completely stacked against the CHIKARA boys. The company is being run by a BDK sympathizer for crying out loud. This is booking 101 guys; the good guys are going to lose until somebody decides to shape up or ship out. The problem is, if the heels just keep winning, and winning, and winning, and winning, and winning, no matter if it's clean or not, it's gonna kill the audience, because they'll start to believe that the babyfaces have no chance of winning, because, even when they come close, the heels will just cheat the victory right out from under them.
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Apr 25, 2010 22:27:33 GMT -5
So how long before Coolio or whatever the lazy Canuck's name is makes an appearance to set things straight? SAVE US.UNCLE_JOEY?
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Post by invaderdave on Apr 25, 2010 22:33:19 GMT -5
For what its worth, I don't think TFIN should have even gone to the Finals. The Colony is the true technico trio of CHIKARA, as well as the best booked team in the last two years. They should have gone to the finals, and the only way they should have lost was through savage cheatery. The deck is completely stacked against the CHIKARA boys. The company is being run by a BDK sympathizer for crying out loud. This is booking 101 guys; the good guys are going to lose until somebody decides to shape up or ship out. The problem is, if the heels just keep winning, and winning, and winning, and winning, and winning, no matter if it's clean or not, it's gonna kill the audience, because they'll start to believe that the babyfaces have no chance of winning, because, even when they come close, the heels will just cheat the victory right out from under them. Maybe so, but we are literally only into the first quarter of the season. If by the end of the first half BDK are still winning like they are now, then I will see your point, but as it is, we are purely on an establishment kick right now.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Apr 26, 2010 0:07:40 GMT -5
Dave, I read you and I agree, this is still phase one of the angle. But consider a few things so you understand why some of us are pressing the panic button.
The similarities between BDK and the nWo are there, like it or not. The BDK are dominating, not just winning, dominating. They have one of their guys in the front office pulling strings for their benefit, just like Eric Bischoff. They have a crooked ref, just like Nick Patrick. The only thing missing are the 20 minute promos three times a show. And for a company that prides itself for having a creative booking committee, don't you expect a little more?
Consider The Kings Of Wrestling from a few years ago. Yes, they were the dominant stable, but they weren't destroying the technicos. They traded victories back and forth, it's just that the KOW won when it mattered and held all the titles. You could believe that Quack and company had a chance at beating the KOW on any given night. But with the BDK it's a forgone conclusion. The Colony got played for chumps, now they look like your typical dumb babyfaces. And do you honestly think that Incoherence are going to get in sniffing distance of the tag straps? Do you think Frightmare is going to be the difference maker in this war? Nobodies that optimistic.
Finally, this is the KOT, probably the biggest event in Chikara's entire year, and it ended on a schnozz. With everything that went on from the Skayde fiasco to Matt Cross to a lackluster night one they should have ended it on a high note. I'm not saying the BDK should have lost, but the crowd should have had something to look forward to in the coming months. Instead they get hosed again. Want to know how to send the crowd home happy and still keep the BDK as a serious threat. Have the BDK win, beat down the Colony, and then have the entire locker room empty, technicos and rudos, and run the BDK off. Quack gets on the mic, says he's sick and tired of the BDK running roughshod over his promotion, and declare war on the BDK with everybody surrounding him backing him up. Just like that, they have credibility instead of now, where they just walked away Peanuts style and appear totally impotent.
Again, this angle is still in it's infancy, I get that. But holy hell, the Chikara roster has totally lost their teeth on this one. Something needs to happen by the next show, anything, or else we're in for a long year.
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 26, 2010 0:39:49 GMT -5
People really need to chill its April there are 6 months left in the year. What would be the point of BDK losing so early? If they were losing matches people would say its like The Invasion. Technicos and Rudos are two diffrent things. Its not one lockerroom...Yet. Im thinking the technicos and rudos will come together just not yet. Maybe one large Cibernetico Chikara vs BDK. Until all the guys in the roster can work together BDK will run roughshot.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2010 0:40:17 GMT -5
Tommy Dreamer in Chikara? ...........strangely enough, this sounds like a good idea. Considering he'd already have a starting point of sorts after this is done (helloooooo, Mr. Delaney) and that this place is his old stomping grounds, it's a very good idea. I stated that as soon as Dreamer was released! Quack is potentially reading my mind! Also a video game? ... Holy poop!
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 26, 2010 0:45:56 GMT -5
If Chikara likes pleasing fans so much they should relese for N64 and give it the No Mercy gameplay.
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Post by pks on Apr 26, 2010 9:17:24 GMT -5
So I'm thinking the UnStable need Daffney
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Post by Error on Apr 26, 2010 12:13:39 GMT -5
Apparently, Mr. Dreamer dropped the s bomb in his promo and got booed, lol. Dreamer in the ECW arena getting booed.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Apr 26, 2010 14:10:38 GMT -5
So I'm thinking the UnStable need Daffney I like your thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 14:31:34 GMT -5
Win.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2010 15:16:57 GMT -5
The teaser trailer went up on www.chikaravideogame.comalso ZOMBIE USAPE! Also Also I noticed Zombie Lance Steel, Private Eye, Mr. Zero, worker ant, and Jervis Cottonbelly I'm not sure who is supposed to be between ape and eye, also the person on the right side of the screen over Zero's shoulder
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 26, 2010 15:24:53 GMT -5
Im thinking It could be Blind Rage
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