HoagieWithPastrami
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Apr 11, 2005 2:12:09 GMT -5
There are two wrestlers known as Ku Klux Klown and the Oi Boy, who uses a finisher called ''Bite the Curb'' taken from the movie ''American History X.'' To quote Lance Storm "If I could be serious for a moment".... I'd like to clear up a stereotype. Not all skinheads... in fact I'd say A LOT less than half, are racist. I used to see skins at punk rock shows all the time, and most were actually EXTREMELY adament about being known as anti-racist. In fact, there were even black, asian, and cuban skinheads that I used to know. It is also a traditional skinhead/old school punk rock type thing to yell out "Oi!". The skinhead thing is just more of a working class/stick together type of thing, it is not intended to be a racist thing. However, there are groups out there that are racist skinheads, and unfortunately movies and the media seem to REALLY enjoy focusing on these groups and giving the majority of the skins a bad reputation.
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Post by ajm on Apr 11, 2005 4:15:45 GMT -5
Reverse racism is such a stupid term. Isn't reverse racism really by definition being not racist? That being the case, I'll make a strong argument in favor of naming either New Jack or Bad News Brown/Allen the most racist wrestler alive. And that's a shoot. Those 2? I don't think so.
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Post by enovak7924 on Apr 11, 2005 12:16:14 GMT -5
Saba Simba... dancing masked, bare foot African guy with... a spear? *shudders.* But, seeing how its 2005 now, I'd like Jerry Lawler to maybe stop accusing Booker T and Shelton Benjamin of having criminal pasts. They should also probably not be referred to as "uppity" by an arrogant white champion ever again. Oh man, that reminded me of something. I was at an MSG card sometime in '86 i think. One match was Adrian Adonis vs Saba Simba. After he came all dancing to the ring, and after a very brief match, I would say not even 2 mins, Adonis went for a pin and got 3. Then Simba got up as if he wasn't even hurt, jumped over the ropes and went backstage and Adonis was just left in the ring staring at him like he no idea what just happened.
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The Masked Jobber
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Post by The Masked Jobber on Apr 12, 2005 9:03:19 GMT -5
Umm.. I don't think saba simba was in the WWF in 86. Unless you mean Tony Atlus himself not in the gimmick. me think saba simba came in around the late 90's and by then Adonis has passed on.
As for racist.. man Piper's interview at Wrestlemania 2 in his match against Mr.T whoa.. that's racist... even what he did to the haiti Kid beforehand was kinda bad.
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Post by drgonzo7 on Apr 12, 2005 16:18:53 GMT -5
There are two wrestlers known as Ku Klux Klown and the Oi Boy, who uses a finisher called ''Bite the Curb'' taken from the movie ''American History X.''
Bite the curb! What exactly does it entail? putting his opponents face on the ring steps and kicking it?
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RavingRendal
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Post by RavingRendal on Apr 12, 2005 22:17:55 GMT -5
I would go with what I remember of Col. DeBeers. I often wonder if that is who the Commandant was supposed to be a 90's verison of.
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admiralcrunchy™
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Apr 12, 2005 22:56:38 GMT -5
Shelton Benjiman...a black guy trying to be a white guy
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Post by ajm on Apr 13, 2005 12:11:04 GMT -5
^ Ignorant moron ^
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Post by King Of Kings on Apr 13, 2005 12:17:59 GMT -5
I like the admiral but...I agree
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yoshi
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Post by yoshi on Apr 13, 2005 12:22:10 GMT -5
And not to mention Pipers angle with Golddust was one of the most homophobic things i've ever seen. Even when Dust was fueding with Razor, there were obvious homoerotic overtones there but they never really played the "I hate gays" card quite like they did with Piper. I hope he's proud of that. But "QUEERING DON'T WORK" the most racist charecter of all time would have to go to the Nation of Domination - black era. I'd like to cear something up though, a lot of you are confusing sterotypical charecters with racist charecters. They are not the same
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Post by ajm on Apr 13, 2005 13:25:18 GMT -5
NOD wasn't racist eventually.....Owen hart joined.
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Post by drgonzo7 on Apr 13, 2005 14:15:05 GMT -5
I nominate John Cena. He is a walking black stereotype, he might as well put on blackface and sing "mammy"
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 13, 2005 19:23:31 GMT -5
Umm.. I don't think saba simba was in the WWF in 86. Unless you mean Tony Atlus himself not in the gimmick. me think saba simba came in around the late 90's and by then Adonis has passed on. As for racist.. man Piper's interview at Wrestlemania 2 in his match against Mr.T whoa.. that's racist... even what he did to the haiti Kid beforehand was kinda bad. Uh, No. Saba Simba was an eighties thing. Tony Atlas had retired by the late 90s anyway.
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HoagieWithPastrami
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Apr 14, 2005 1:15:46 GMT -5
Uh, No. Saba Simba was an eighties thing. Tony Atlas had retired by the late 90s anyway. I saw Saba Simba at a house show in like 89 or 90. At house shows he didn't even bother to dance on the way to the ring or wear the African get up. He just calmly walked down the isle, wrestled, and left if I remember correctly.
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HoagieWithPastrami
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Apr 14, 2005 1:17:40 GMT -5
Oh, by the way, I nominate Col. Debeers.
The guy was a South African racist in AWA's dying days. I remember he had feud with a black wrestler named Derrick Dukes. The sole reason for the feud was that Debeers didn't like Dukes cause he was black.
Folks, it don't get more racist than that!
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Post by destrucity on Apr 14, 2005 1:41:06 GMT -5
"It looks like Roots 2" - Gov. Ventura while Mr. T was being held down by Orton while Piper was whipping him
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Post by Black Swagger on Apr 14, 2005 7:44:22 GMT -5
Yea I think that his gimmick was the most racist character. The fact remains that his gimmick was based off legalized racism in South Africa.
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admiralcrunchy™
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Apr 14, 2005 12:26:35 GMT -5
what's that punk? you get after me for that, yet seeing acting black is wrong? grow up...
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Post by bigdangerousdan on Apr 14, 2005 14:37:20 GMT -5
I always thought the Col. DeBeers character was a kind of lampoon on the institutionalized racism present in Soth Africa at the time. Yes the gimmick was that of a racist but the character was not necessarily pandering to racist stereotypes. For that, we have characters like the aforementioned Saba Simba, El Matador, The Godfather, Papa Shango, and every generic masked "Asian" wreslter that has ever stunk things up in the ring with their "knowledge" of martial arts, which generally consists of throwing bad kicks and chops due to a lack of mobility.
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Post by ajm on Apr 14, 2005 14:49:48 GMT -5
what's that punk? you get after me for that, yet seeing acting black is wrong? grow up... Lol @ punk....who are you? Fool, you sound like a racist, ignorant pig.
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