The Masked Jobber
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Post by The Masked Jobber on May 20, 2005 8:42:49 GMT -5
Apparently I read in the paper, that george Lucas himself makes a cameo appeance in the opera scene and his son also made a cameo by being one of the fallen jedi.
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Post by THE Dinobot on May 20, 2005 8:52:15 GMT -5
I'm going to go see's it in like 2 hours, I'll be looking out for Lucas.
JOHN WILLIAMS!!! (sorry).
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Post by BrianZane on May 20, 2005 10:11:07 GMT -5
How can Vader meet his daughter and spend about an hour with her, episode IV, and not sence who she is, but ten seconds with Luke and he knows he is his father? Well, Anakin was never told he had twins. He was always told he just had one child, so he probably never crossed his mind. That's one of the biggest things my friends and I have talked about, there's 5 years between ep's 4 and 6, so perhaps either they built the second Death Star right after the destruction of the first one and they knew what they were doing, or they began building it before the first one got blown up.
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Post by V3rtigo on May 20, 2005 10:22:39 GMT -5
i saw it yesterday and i liked it a lot. the first half was damn funny, never liked R2 as much as i did yesterday. the scnes with Portman were..let's just say there's room for improvement... after the rescue mission up until the point where Palpatine frys Mace Windu, it got a bit boring, but after that it started to kick ass again. and the scene with the younglings and Anakin's lightsaber was pure gold...
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Post by jonberg on May 20, 2005 10:43:35 GMT -5
I really didn't think the film was that good. The action was awesome and the non dialogue bits were fine. But anakin can't act, Padme has no chemistry with him. The film itself was really cheesy and over the top. Darth Vader's NOOOOOO!!!!! had the cinema laughing outloud. Anakin's WHAT HAVE I DONE, same effect. This was really poorly written and acted. Samuel L was the only really consistent actor. Palpatine had moments of brilliance but then they were ruined by his pantomime bad guy expressions. Dooku died way too early. Anakin's turn to the darkside was less inner torment and more whiny pregnant doging followed by a shrug of the shoulders and a bit of eyeshadow.
There were also a few inconsistencies in the film. Most notable was the lack of a scene showing how Anakin, Palpatine and Obi-Wan weren't sucked out of Grevious' ship at the beginning.
Grevious was also really hard to understand at times. And why oh why are all the androids really camp and sarcastic? Why didn't Obi-Wan and Anakin sense the droids in the lift before they went in? Too many errors to be a great film. Better than the first two but that's not saying much. the action gets 4/5, the film gets 2/5
Oh and that dragon thing beats Jar Jar for annoyance factor.
And what happened to the other half of the ship in the opening sequence? That hits the planets surface and plenty people die.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on May 20, 2005 11:22:44 GMT -5
Well, Anakin was never told he had twins. He was always told he just had one child, so he probably never crossed his mind. Additionally, Vader never 'sensed' that Luke was his son. He probably heard the name of the kid who blew up the Death Star and put two- and two- together. He learns this sometime between movies, and that's why he's so hellbent on finding Luke at any cost. There's also the added Palpatine scene on the Empire DVD.
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Post by BrianZane on May 20, 2005 12:06:47 GMT -5
I also have to add, so much decapatiation and dismemberment in that movie, no wonder it got a PG-13 rating. There were more body parts flying in Episode 3 than I could count, not including the droids getting cut up by the lightsabers.
Did anyone notice the foreshadowing that Palpatine is Anakin's father? First Palpatine tells the story of the Sith lord who taught his apprentice everything he knew, then was killed in his sleep by the apprentice (most likely Palpatine)...how the Sith lord could create life by manipulating midichlorians (Palpatine learned it and created Anakin, they never mentioned who the father was in Ep. 1)...Palpatine doesn't care that Maul, Tyranus and Grievous get killed, but cares enough to go to Mustafar to save dying Anakin...
Anyone else notice this series of events?
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on May 20, 2005 12:35:09 GMT -5
I dunno. I find it way too coincidental that Palpatine sought out some slave to impregnant on some backwater planet, on the hope that someday a Jedi might accidentally stumble on the kid, raise him in the Jedi arts, and then have the kid turn to the Dark Side at the oppurtune time.
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Post by random poster on May 20, 2005 13:37:10 GMT -5
ive been force ( no pun intended) fed star wars all week, ( work in a dvd shop so its all we could show for this week) so im not going to watch it in the cinema, ive not seen any in the cinema so im going to keep my record alive.
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Post by JLAJRC on May 20, 2005 16:22:16 GMT -5
I really liked this film. About the only thing I didn't care for was the way Padme died. A broken heart? I would have have her become mortally wounded during the Anakin/Obi fight. Plus, she came up with the Luke and Lei names pretty fast.
Otherwise, I great film compared to the previous 2 Snore Wars prequels.
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Post by THE Dinobot on May 20, 2005 16:47:55 GMT -5
Everything in this film was great, except for Natalie Portman. You'd think, with someone who made her debut in a true classic like The Professional, she's be able to pull out a better performance then that.
"Oh, hold me, Ani", Golly gee, what was this, The Creek?
Kinda sucked that Jar-Jar didn't have a speaking part, as he's a true factor in the whole series and not just this trilogy. He really is the glue that holds this whole dog and pony trick together.
I loved how when Obi-Wan picked up Anakin's lightsaber (set-up for Ep. 4), that they didn't show a close-up, it was just a simple wide shot with both the 'defeated' Anakin and the standing Obi-Wan.
By now, I'm sure everyone who's seen it agree's the 'Nooooo' was very cheesy. but, hey, it's not a dramatic moment without that. It's a drama staple.
As far as when Padme had the twins, they gave no explaination as to why she chose the names 'Luke' and 'Lela'. You'd think there would at lease be a mention as to WHY she chose these names.
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Post by tigermask on May 20, 2005 19:17:08 GMT -5
Now we go to school with the ultimate Star Wars geek.
My young aprentice, you must not forget that in Ep 1, Yoda said that he sensed "screaming" and "death" in the boy. Perhaps the Jedi Counsel confered in between the scenes?
It was either most likely hanging around in the dog fight or just burned in the atmosphere. You could say that that should have happened to Obi Wan, Palpatine and Anakin, but remember, they have The Force. Or they had control over where/how the ship would land, due to the fact that they were in the cockpit.
"The son of Skywalker MUST not become a jedi."-Palpatine, who coincidentaly was Vader's master. Seeing Luke in a state like that after his arm flies off in Ep 2, Vader decide to drop him a bombshell by saying that Vader was Luke's father. I think he most likely thought that with all these attacks, Luke might be able to turn to the Sith.
Wasn't she choked by Vader? After all, being in a state when you're expecting makes you weak. So while she might have survived all that, knowing Anakin was a sith and evil, might be known to drive off the edge.
Good discussion.
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Post by hobojoe on May 20, 2005 19:20:42 GMT -5
I'd imagine the fact that Luke's last name was Skywalker was a bit of a giveaway.
They can't sense droids because droids aren't life forms.
When I saw the Death Star plans in Attack of the Clones I figured they'd show the early stages of the Death Star in this one. I was initially concerned because of the time frame; 20 years to build Death Star I and 5 or 6 years to build Death Star II (which was larger.) But, it was a cool shot, and a great way to tie into the first movie. I think it's safe to assume that a massive project like the Death Star would take a while to complete, not to mention the difficulties in perfecting the technology involved in the planet-destroying superlaser (which must have been in very early stages.) Once the first Death Star was completed it was likely considerably easier to build Death Star II, because all the difficulties had already been worked out.
I didn't think the "Nooooooo" was all that cheesy. Cliched? Yes, but appropriate.
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Post by tigermask on May 20, 2005 19:37:16 GMT -5
When I saw the Death Star plans in Attack of the Clones I figured they'd show the early stages of the Death Star in this one. I was initially concerned because of the time frame; 20 years to build Death Star I and 5 or 6 years to build Death Star II (which was larger.) But, it was a cool shot, and a great way to tie into the first movie. I think it's safe to assume that a massive project like the Death Star would take a while to complete, not to mention the difficulties in perfecting the technology involved in the planet-destroying superlaser (which must have been in very early stages.) Once the first Death Star was completed it was likely considerably easier to build Death Star II, because all the difficulties had already been worked out. As far as I can recall, the death star looked pretty much like a coat hanger frame. Nothing inside whatsoever. Add in the lazer that would take years to complete, Light speed, tractor beam, prison cell, etc. Im not sure about this one, I think they could have picked a better phrase like "CURSE YOU OBI-WAN! CURSSSSSEEE YOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!" or somethine like that. I wouldn't start a war over the "Nooooo" though because Ep. 3 was on fire by the time it got to that point. Infact, I don't think the fire ever went out until the credits, when you knew the ride was over.
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Post by Blade Braxton on May 20, 2005 19:41:10 GMT -5
A little cheesy perhaps, but what else was he gonna say at that point? With all the deaths that happened in the film, a lone cuss word from Vader at the end may have pushed it over the edge into "Rated R" land.
Lucas will probably tweek it for the DVD, anyway.
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Post by The Angel on May 20, 2005 19:50:49 GMT -5
I ordered tickets online for a 12:15 AM show. (how nerdy is THAT?) The 12:01's were sold out. This was my first midnight show and I was NOT diappointed. The audience was quiet, with only two wannabe goth kids in lame Sith outfits. Absolutely amazing. Was it the single best movie I have ever seen? No. Was it exactly what it was supposed to be? Hell yes. As a movie, it's a little better than mediocre. As Episode III of Star Wars, it's bloody incredible and absolutely perfect. A Masterpiece, and I do NOT mean Chris Masters.
And Blade, could you fix your post, pretty please? The horizontal scroll is making me wanna scream like Vader (which, by the way I think sounded weird because he was just getting used to breathing and talking with the mask)
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Post by jghzilla69 on May 20, 2005 20:28:29 GMT -5
Best Star Wars Movie......EVER!!!!!
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Post by rdreynolds on May 20, 2005 21:34:42 GMT -5
A little cheesy perhaps, but what else was he gonna say at that point? With all the deaths that happened in the film, a lone cuss word from Vader at the end may have pushed it over the edge into "Rated R" land. True. I liked how it all played out at the end, though. I really liked the Padme funeral procession. Awesome. RD
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Post by thatdonguy on May 20, 2005 23:52:20 GMT -5
They did a good job of crossing the Ts and dotting the Is for Episodes IV-VI in this one, although there was one they left out:
Why was there no reference (not even in comic relief) to the fact that not one person figured out that you could destroy the Death Star rather easily with a couple of blasts into an exhaust shaft, especially as it took the rebels about five minutes to figure it out once they had the plans?
-- Don
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Post by scorp on May 21, 2005 0:55:25 GMT -5
Saw it tonight....Anakin's wife really oversold the Jedi choke....
Anyhow, after seeing this movie I think I am turning into a Darth Vader mark. I was rooting for him in his battles!
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