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Post by tamuthetongantiger on May 25, 2005 17:28:50 GMT -5
And then, Vince McMahon entered the galaxy, as the Gray Lord of the Attitude Side of the Force. No longer divided into light and dark, the Jedi hit each other with chairs, flipped each other off, drank beer and...
Ya know, this is a cool idea. I want the Gray Side of the Force!
Or, Ric Flair as the evil Sith Lord who befriends Jedi, only to turn on them with a low blow at an inopportune moment.
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Post by andre28bc on May 25, 2005 20:36:15 GMT -5
Who wouldn't want to see the Nature Boy with a lightSabre in his hands and delivering a WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by BrianZane on May 25, 2005 22:12:00 GMT -5
MadLinus, Anakin's didn't believe Palpatine was innocent. On the contrary, Anakin was the one to tell Mace that Palpatine was the Sith Lord. However, Palpatine already put the idea that Padme could only be saved from death by the Dark Side. Yoda confirmed this idea with his "Mourn not the dead" speech. So when Mace realized that things had gone too far and Palpatine had too much power and had to be killed all Anakin saw was his chance to save Padme about to be taken away. So he disarms Mace, but had no idea the Palpatine still had enough left in him to launch Mace a mile out the window. Anakin is now royally screwed. He's an accomplice in the murder of the second highest Jedi Master. The Council had thier doubts about Palpatine and believed Anakin was too friendly with him. To make matters worse, Mace Windu was the most vocal against Anakin's friendship with Palpatine. All the circumstancial evidence points to Anakin being Palpatine's apprentice, and no one (save Obi Wan) would believe otherwise since Anakin still has to keep Palpatine alive. Given his options, he chose the one which gave him the best shot of saving Padme: He turned. I totally agree with that statement. He only joined up with Palpatine because he believed that only that could save Padme, but when she died, he realized that there was no turning back, and that he had to stay with the Emperor.
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Post by kidnotorious on May 25, 2005 23:48:49 GMT -5
Nah Linus Anakin couldn't afford to kill off Palpatine until he learned exactly how to cheat death. When Anakin (Odd how hard I'm finding it to call him 'Vader' now) is told that he killed Padme then everything of his Jedi life is gone. All he has is Palpatine.
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Post by texmame on May 26, 2005 4:31:00 GMT -5
I am a Star Wars mark. I remember the feeling in 1977 of seeing the first Star Destroyer come over my head across the screen. I remember actually leaning forward in Empire SB to try and see more of Vader in the that mere fash of him having his face mask lowered onto his head. I was overcome with emotion when Luke took off his mask in Strikes Back. I have waited for "arise Lord Vader" for 28 years. Sith did not disappoint - the action was enthralling, Anakin's transformation believable, the cause of his injuries, the rise of Vader and the linking with the prequels great.
Hower we also have to acknowledge how terrible the script was. Not just bad - terrible.
Anakin is on the verge of the dark side and Padme talks about how much "stress he is under"
Obi and Anakin are about to move from being brothers to mortal enemies and Anakin says "you are either with me or my enemy"
Darth Vader believes he has killed his true love and the script calls for a good old fashioned "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
The script was one dimensional while the action had at least 4.
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Post by krendall on May 26, 2005 12:52:53 GMT -5
Also, how does Chewbacca go from hanging out and discussing important things with Yoda, to being with Hans Solo? (my girlfriend insisted it wasn't Chewbacca, just someone that looked like him. But Yoda calls him Chewbacca) That's something I NEED TO KNOW DAMNIT!!! Read the "Hans Solo Trilogy" books. It details how Solo and Chewbacca met. Long story short, I believe Chewie was enslaved by the Empire (like most Wookies were) and Han freed him. Chewie then repaid Han with the Wookie life vow, and was with him ever since. Few thoughts on the movie: -Loved it overall. -Battles were all sweet, though Obi-Wan vs. Grievous was kinda quick. I agree Grievous wasn't nearly as bad-ass as he was in Clone Wars. -My mother found it impossible to believe a person would not have any will to live after giving birth to her children. -Palpatine is quite the bastard. I also guess that, technically, he is Anakin's father. -Acting was cheesy, but how is that different from any other Star Wars movie? -It was weird hearing James Earl Jones say "Padmé."
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Post by phentari on May 26, 2005 17:23:10 GMT -5
No weirder than hearing him say "Yippee!" or "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Well, okay, it wasn't him, but it was a pretty damned good impression. Am I the only one who's seen the dubbed version of ANH with "Little Orphan Annie's" lines dubbed in?
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Post by rdreynolds on May 26, 2005 22:17:18 GMT -5
No weirder than hearing him say "Yippee!" or "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!" Well, okay, it wasn't him, but it was a pretty damned good impression. Am I the only one who's seen the dubbed version of ANH with "Little Orphan Annie's" lines dubbed in? I've long said that the real reason Anakin turned to the dark side was because he was sick of people calling him "Annie." RD
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Post by Mr. Zombie on May 26, 2005 22:52:44 GMT -5
I dunno, it took how long for Star Wars to finally get back to being Star Wars and living up to its name? I'm just really disappointed that Lucas finally got the ball rolling after 2 very mediocre movies, and now its over. I feel like the story isn't finshed. I want to see more.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on May 27, 2005 2:37:57 GMT -5
Yeah... there was supposed to be another trilogy, but Lucas said it took him so long to finally make this trilogy that he doesn't want to make another one. He is getting old I guess.
Can't he just write them at his leisure and have someone else make them? I mean really... could they suck any worse than Phantom Menace? I think not!
So yeah, initially it was supposed to be a trilogy of trilogies.
Amazing how ONE good Star Wars movie made me a Star Wars fan again!
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Post by andre28bc on May 27, 2005 3:08:41 GMT -5
It's only a matter of time until Episodes 7-9 are made. They can ressurect the dark side, have new villians, etc. It's only a matter of time because there is simply too much money to be made, someone, somehow will get 7-9 made.
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Post by aguamoose on May 27, 2005 4:39:38 GMT -5
It's only a matter of time until Episodes 7-9 are made. They can ressurect the dark side, have new villians, etc. It's only a matter of time because there is simply too much money to be made, someone, somehow will get 7-9 made. Gawd i hope so
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Post by Bobafett on May 27, 2005 17:35:23 GMT -5
I say read the Novels if ya want more Star Wars(especialy the X-wing series..easily the best star wars stuff i ever read ) Great movie..but I will say two things..no Boba Fett and Lucas just can't do romance stuff (Han and Leia worked for a few reasons..one Carrie fisher had a crush on Harrison Ford, the dynamics were different..he was a rogue and she was the pretty but sassy girl trying to resist his charms ) BTW: the young Tarkin..wasn't cgi, he was Played by the actor Wayne Pygram, who played Scorpius in Farscape (and the man I think if they ever re-made the origional movies outright, he would be the man to play Tarkin anyway) heres a pic of Pygram as Scorpious
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Post by andre28bc on May 28, 2005 13:21:55 GMT -5
Someone told me that Episodes 7-9 are written. Does that mean in Novella form? Does Lucas have any creative imput in these books? So, all that would have to be done is for the books to get transferred to Screenplays and there ya go. If Lucas doesn't want to do it, who do you think he would allow to do it? I'm sure Lucas would have to give his consent on that, right? What about if he dies first?
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Post by Bobafett on May 28, 2005 15:09:31 GMT -5
well..the Heir to the Empire trilogy was written by Timothy Zahn and had input from Lucas, it was also the first mention of Courscant and in terms of symbolisation has the next generation of Skywalkers born (well technically they are Solos as Leia marries Han)
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Post by invaderdave on May 28, 2005 16:11:40 GMT -5
I very much liked the Heir to the Empire books. I think that could work.
I just got done seeing it, now have some thoughts: May contain spoilers
I very much liked it. The fight scenes were great, and it tied up...most of the loose ends. There's a few things I'd still like to know, but for the most part I'm set. It did sound weird to hear JEJ say "Padme" but I thought it was worse to hear him stammer "I-it's...it's not possible". And even worse hearing "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" I like how Padme' decided Luke and Leia's names on the spot. With no real reasoning behind it. Except for the fact that their names were Luke and Leia in the original series. Darth Vader's cloak catches fire? THAT'S IT? That's the big reason he ends up being burned? He screwed up? I'd have had him fall into the lava pit, so he looks even more bad ass for surviving lava. Acting was wooden. Except for the guy who played Palpatine. I liked him. Count Dooku dies in like the first ten minutes. I didn't take to that too lightly.
That's all my gripes and such with the movie. I'm done now. Liked it though.
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Post by Bobafett on May 28, 2005 16:31:24 GMT -5
Well..as for the names they coulda had Anakin and Padme talking about stuff like thar..suggesting Luke if it was a boy Leia if it was a girl (seeing as he assumed there was only one kid) because..if Padme thought of the names on her own..well..make no sense especially Leia (why you ask..cos all first names of Females on Naboo have "e" at the end of em if ya notice ) and its not like they were names after influential people in their lives (well not that we know of anyway)
Heir to the Empire would be a cool trilogy, I'd love to see the Nohgri in action (imagine a creature pretty much similar looking to Gollum from LOTR, but make his skin grey, give him toned muscles..as opposed to being skinny thin, also give him razor sharp claws and teeth..and give him the mind of the greatest and deadliest assasins ..times 10 and you got a Nohgri )
Also.. Thrawn is a great main bad guy
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Post by hobojoe on May 28, 2005 18:49:19 GMT -5
What's wrong with the naming scene? Padme's criminey jeezeing dying, she can't go into detailed descriptions of why she choose the names Luke and Leia. Do you really need a story behind the names? Maybe she just thought they sounded pretty.
And if they do a 7-9 (they shouldn't, the story is over and I'd like to think Lucas's greedy ass would know when to quit) it would almost have to be the Thrawn trilogy.
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Post by invaderdave on May 28, 2005 21:55:22 GMT -5
What's wrong with the naming scene? Padme's criminey jeezeing dying, she can't go into detailed descriptions of why she choose the names Luke and Leia. Do you really need a story behind the names? Maybe she just thought they sounded pretty. Didn't say anything was wrong with it. Just found it kind of out of no where. Ling Bai was gonna be in the movie, but George Lucas cut her scenes when she showed up in Playboy. NERD TRIVIA!
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Post by Sinestro on May 29, 2005 15:11:55 GMT -5
Just finished watching it, and was easyily the best of the prequels, but that's no challenge. Out of the 6 I'd say it ranks an easy 3rd with Empire being first, and New Hope being second. (I hate Jedi.) I guess my only major gripe with it was it didn't have the emotions of Eps 4 and 5... especially 5. It just all felt empty, and I wasn't feeling Anakin's pain, which I believe I should have. But that could be attributed to Hayden's poor acting skills, (though in all honesty they were improved this go). I guess he's quitting acting, and in my honest opinion I believe that's a great idea.
I guess there is talk of a two tv shows, 1 animated like Clone Wars, and the other live action. The live action one would initially be written by Kevin Smith and take place between EPs 3 and 4, but this is all conjecture at this point
I guess Lucas said he'd like to do a pre-prequel that tells the story of the Jedi gaining control from the Sith before the rule of 2 was in affect. Imagine hundreds of Sith fighting it out with hundreds of Jedi, truly a sight to behold. Sadly I doubt it ever happens.
As to Ep 7-9, gods I hope not. For two major reasons.
1. I understand Lucas has decreed only the movies to be canon, so the Heir to the Empire would most likely not be used in any way shape or form. Leaving us with more of Lucas' "fabulous" writing.
2. A few years back I heard that Harrison Frod said he'd never play Han again. Not that I blame seeing as the big candy ass he became in Jedi, which is my second reason for hating that flick, can you guess the first? Here's a hint; Whup whup.
Anyway enough with the rumor mongering.
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