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Post by Brian Suntan on Mar 9, 2010 21:43:31 GMT -5
It was a victory for putting on a good show, if not the ratings. I don't care, because I won't be watching every week, but I hope for their sakes they don't take ratings as the be all and end all.
Of course, if they are really concerned about ratings....
- IIRC, there was a quote from Dixie when they announced this about how they could've had an hour unopposed but turned it down. Why? The Jan 4 rating was carried by the first hour. That's probably first on their list of things to change if they don't get the ratings they want.
- It's not like tons of people tuned in at the start and switched off because it was shit. Generally, just not that many tuned in at all. Jeff Hardy, RVD and Sting all returned/debuted at this show, and not a single one of them was advertised. I'm all for 'anything can happen' but if no-ones watching in the first place they can raise the dead and it won't make a difference.
Of course, if they get this rating again next week they should throw an open top bus parade. Taped Impact vs Stone Cold might not end well.
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Post by thatguybayne on Mar 9, 2010 21:48:38 GMT -5
I don't really understand all the gloating by WWE fanboys across the net. Especially the flood of Johnny come latelys on this board. When you're watching another legacy cheapening appearance by Steve Austin next week with obligatory beer bash to close out another by the numbers Raw and you wonder why the WWE keeps serving up the same crap maybe you should take a look in the mirror.
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Post by Error on Mar 9, 2010 21:51:54 GMT -5
I don't really understand all the gloating by WWE fanboys across the net. Especially the flood of Johnny come latelys on this board. When you're watching another legacy cheapening appearance by Steve Austin next week with obligatory beer bash to close out another by the numbers Raw and you wonder why the WWE keeps serving up the same crap maybe you should take a look in the mirror. Let's not start this shit please.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 21:53:55 GMT -5
I don't really understand all the gloating by WWE fanboys across the net. Especially the flood of Johnny come latelys on this board. When you're watching another legacy cheapening appearance by Steve Austin next week with obligatory beer bash to close out another by the numbers Raw and you wonder why the WWE keeps serving up the same crap maybe you should take a look in the mirror. I'm not trying to start a fight, and this is all I'm gonna say on the matter, but I'm just gonna say that you call Austin coming back for one night cheapening his legacy, yet Flair has the greatest sendoff, and he's wrestling for no real reason again other than his own personal need to.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 21:55:12 GMT -5
I don't really understand all the gloating by WWE fanboys across the net. Especially the flood of Johnny come latelys on this board. When you're watching another legacy cheapening appearance by Steve Austin next week with obligatory beer bash to close out another by the numbers Raw and you wonder why the WWE keeps serving up the same crap maybe you should take a look in the mirror. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the same people: Hogan and Bischoff along with other WCW survivors tried to kill the WWE in the 90's and gloated about it. WCW's death was bittersweet, but it was apparent that the WWE never really beat WCW to death in a legit contest considering WCW's self destruction. So beating Bischoff, Hogan, and Russo so handily is like a major victory to them.
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Post by Parrish on Mar 9, 2010 21:58:19 GMT -5
and Vince Russo is still 0 fer against WWE on Monday Nights
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 9, 2010 22:05:18 GMT -5
I wonder how much DVR will have an impact on the rating. I don't think DVR will effect it at all. Whether or not it increases it will remain to be seen, but I think DVR has affected ratings quite a bit on all wrestling shows. People don't have to give them two hours at once, and it's not accounted for in initial ratings.
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Post by thatguybayne on Mar 9, 2010 22:15:10 GMT -5
Yeah, you'll have to excuse my outburst. I just find it frustrating how any wrestling fan could not want TNA to succeed as WWE needs this too. They have been treading water since they bought out WCW. I don't agree with Flair wrestling especially after his WrestleMania retirement but I also don't agree with Austin making a return after what was called his final ever appearance in WWE especially when they'll end up making him do something stupid like they always do. Besides no boom period ever started by parading around past thier prime stars.
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Post by Parrish on Mar 9, 2010 22:21:11 GMT -5
Lets give it a couple of weeks, if TNA doesn't try to change and keeps doing stuff the same way then lets all get angry and burn this mother down cookie!
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 22:22:33 GMT -5
Besides no boom period ever started by parading around past thier prime stars. But that's what's happening on both ends right now. The focal points of Impact were the likes Hogan, Flair, Hall, Nash, and Sting (the only one of the bunch who can still work a great match IMO), and Raw is still flooded with the same guys, and as next week shows, the same main events. But I look at WWE at this point and see them making some better progression of new stars in the Miz, Sheamus, Morrison, Truth, and Kofi, while TNA is going for signing ex WWE guys, effectively making it harder and harder for any of the more home grown talent to get a bigger push, or even a shot at the gold. While I was unhappy with his debut, Van Dam is a coup for the company. So is Hardy. But I could live without seeing them in TNA if it meant guys like Kaz, Daniels, or the kidnapped Joe would get more TV time than they've been getting lately.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 22:23:27 GMT -5
Yeah, you'll have to excuse my outburst. I just find it frustrating how any wrestling fan could not want TNA to succeed as WWE needs this too. They have been treading water since they bought out WCW. I don't agree with Flair wrestling especially after his WrestleMania retirement but I also don't agree with Austin making a return after what was called his final ever appearance in WWE especially when they end up making him do something stupid like they always do. Besides no boom period ever started by parading around past thier prime stars. Your right. I think it is safe to say WWE really doesn't have new ideas, but they implement their spots flawlessly. TNA is bursting with new concepts, but when the spot goes down it is a mess and comes off like fanfiction. I am mainly talking about the first Sting spot and Hogan not even mentioning it, the RVD debut, which came off like 'just another new guy', and then the ultra unrealistic continuous bat beatdown. Which did sort of make RVD look like the toughest man on Earth. I am really pulling for TNA, but it just seems to go down like WCW 2000, where they had great stuff, it just didn't translate well in the implementation.
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Post by thatguybayne on Mar 9, 2010 22:31:01 GMT -5
Good points by both of you. WWE do it much better and that's the reason they're number 1 but for the longest time they've only really been pulling out all the stops it when it comes time for WrestleMania. It's a continuous cycle that needs to be broken. TNA may not be the ideal alternative but they have a lot going for them. I think it's just a shame some wrestling fans are more interested in childish point scoring that what's in thier best interests as fans.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Mar 9, 2010 22:33:46 GMT -5
Damn.
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Post by joeiscool on Mar 9, 2010 22:37:41 GMT -5
I really hate rating threads cause no one really knows what they are talking about. We don't know if this is a bad rating or not, because we don't know what spike and dixie are shooting for.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 22:40:10 GMT -5
I really hate rating threads cause no one really knows what they are talking about. We don't know if this is a bad rating or not, because we don't know what spike and dixie are shooting for. Well, a post earlier said Spike was happy with the ratings, so at least they're optimistic for the future.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 9, 2010 22:43:36 GMT -5
I really hate rating threads cause no one really knows what they are talking about. We don't know if this is a bad rating or not, because we don't know what spike and dixie are shooting for. Well, a post earlier said Spike was happy with the ratings, so at least they're optimistic for the future. Furthermore, TNA's real competition is with whatever Spike has been airing 9-11 pm on Mondays. The WWE thing is a work to drum up controversy for now.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 22:46:19 GMT -5
Well, a post earlier said Spike was happy with the ratings, so at least they're optimistic for the future. Furthermore, TNA's real competition is with whatever Spike has been airing 9-11 pm on Mondays. The WWE thing is a work to drum up controversy for now. Well, They're putting TNA Epics on before Impact next week. Good way to spark some interest. If that stupid sitcom is on after though, that's not so good a thing.
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Post by Massive G on Mar 9, 2010 22:52:36 GMT -5
this is one of the most interesting and hilarious threads ever. so many quotable replies, too many to actually quote, but kudos to all.
but in all honesty, regardless of what they say, TNA has to be a little disappointed with this, right?
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Post by Andy Martin on Mar 9, 2010 22:53:24 GMT -5
Dave Meltzer says Impact did a 0.98, so it was rounded UP to 1.0 - failure. Doomsday is at hand, someone flick on the bat signal
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Mar 9, 2010 22:54:22 GMT -5
this is one of the most interesting and hilarious threads ever. so many quotable replies, too many to actually quote, but kudos to all. but in all honesty, regardless of what they say, TNA has to be a little disappointed with this, right? I'd say a bit bummed at it's decline, but nowhere near panic state yet.
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