AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 2, 2010 18:59:45 GMT -5
Considering the rarity of seeing wrestling shirts in public, It's like trying to find a red pin among a few regular pins in a huge haystack. Besides at wrestling show, I've only seen a few Cenas here or there, and one Angle shirt a few years back. I see kids wearing wrestling shirts all the time, mainly Cena and DX. As well as the odd twenty-something wearing an Undertaker shirt or something. Never seen anybody wearing a TNA shirt, but then I don't know if that'd fly in the elementary schools since the letters are suggestive. DX had some pretty suggestive stuff in the past at least.
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dpg
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Post by dpg on Apr 3, 2010 6:25:49 GMT -5
They are not having problems. They are also not making as much as they could, but theye are no where near in peril. Stop looking for the apocolypse. It is good to have two wrestling promotions (ROH, TNA) hell even a entertainment company that has guys who used to wrestle like WWE is good TV sometimes That's pretty much how I see it. They aren't rolling in cash but most certainly aren't going to collapse. I've seen various people wearing TNA t-shirt, and I live in england. Last time was a Matt Morgan one while I was shopping in town, time before that was a beer money one while at a gig. And my local HMV's stock TNA dvds.
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Post by slickster on Apr 3, 2010 6:44:34 GMT -5
I think the main problem with house shows has been that they have booked arenas that are MUCH too large. TNA has routinely booked 5-10,000 seat arenas and yet they struggle to sell 1,000 tickets, which means the house looks like crap and they spend a lot of money on arena space that they don't need or use. really does not mean anything. It's the price that they pay for the arena. Lets just say if they get a place that holds 1000 people and the price for the arena is $2,000. You would only need to draw 100 people at $20 to cover the price of the arena. So if they drew 100 it does not matter that only 10% of the seats were filled. But bigger arenas cost significantly more than smaller ones, which is why they lose money because they don't draw enough to cover the costs. That's my point. I don't know if you've ever tried to book an arena, but there can be a lot of hidden costs involved. In addition to paying security and the ticket office operator, you might also need to pay for lights, heat/AC, floor seats, the PA system, curtains, tables, and access to the locker room. The devil's in those details and those details add up when you have to pay for them three times a week for house shows.
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dpg
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Post by dpg on Apr 3, 2010 6:50:43 GMT -5
really does not mean anything. It's the price that they pay for the arena. Lets just say if they get a place that holds 1000 people and the price for the arena is $2,000. You would only need to draw 100 people at $20 to cover the price of the arena. So if they drew 100 it does not matter that only 10% of the seats were filled. But bigger arenas cost significantly more than smaller ones, which is why they lose money because they don't make enough to cover the costs. That's my point. If they constantly made losses they wouldn't keep running them. TNA has been ruthless in cutting down on costs in the past, I don't see them running loss making house shows on a regular basis. One of the last two houses shows got 2,000 in.
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Post by slickster on Apr 3, 2010 6:56:08 GMT -5
To their credit, TNA has drawn better at recent shows because they use smaller buildings and because it's their first time in the area.
It wasn't too long ago that TNA drew only 2400 people (about 1200 paid) to a 5000 seat building for Bound For Glory, their biggest show of the year.
They drew ~300 people in Syracuse last July and drew 650 (350 paid) to the Oman Arena in Jackson, TN (a 4,000 seat building) last November.
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dpg
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Post by dpg on Apr 3, 2010 7:38:30 GMT -5
To their credit, TNA has drawn better at recent shows because they use smaller buildings and because it's their first time in the area. It wasn't too long ago that TNA drew only 2400 people (about 1200 paid) to a 5000 seat building for Bound For Glory, their biggest show of the year. They drew ~300 people in Syracuse last July and drew 650 (350 paid) to the Oman Arena in Jackson, TN (a 4,000 seat building) last November. They do draw low numbers on a too regular basis, but they also draw great numbers fairly regularly.Plus the British tours always get huge numbers in.
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Post by slickster on Apr 3, 2010 8:00:34 GMT -5
TNA only runs the UK once a year and you have to assume a lot of that cost is eaten up by travel expenses.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Apr 3, 2010 9:28:17 GMT -5
:/ uh-oh. Right when I'm enjoying the product the most I've ever been.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 3, 2010 13:06:45 GMT -5
I see kids wearing wrestling shirts all the time, mainly Cena and DX. As well as the odd twenty-something wearing an Undertaker shirt or something. Never seen anybody wearing a TNA shirt, but then I don't know if that'd fly in the elementary schools since the letters are suggestive. DX had some pretty suggestive stuff in the past at least. Yeah, I actually had to turn my DX shirt inside out back in middle school because of the "Two Words: S*CK IT!" on the back lol. I've seen kids mainly wear the green "slime" DX shirt which isn't really suggestive at all. So that works out.
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