AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 15, 2010 22:42:09 GMT -5
I guess it's something new if you don't count ECW invading WWF/E in 1997, 2005 & 2006 or TNA in 2002/3ish I believe. Also it is fair in my opinion to compare it to Nexus atleast how it got started because they're both invasions of sorts and are in a main storyline. Except this one was building a few weeks instead of spontaneous, they were mostly seen as faces instead of heels, this one is a smaller group and more experienced, instead of the larger upstarts, and THEY WERE INVITED! Its still a fair criticism when TWO InVasion knockoffs debut at the same time.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 15, 2010 22:44:08 GMT -5
Except this one was building a few weeks instead of spontaneous, they were mostly seen as faces instead of heels, this one is a smaller group and more experienced, instead of the larger upstarts, and THEY WERE INVITED! Its still a fair criticism when TWO InVasion knockoffs debut at the same time. But since they're invited, are they really invaders then? By that logic, I invade every party I go to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 22:49:20 GMT -5
Its still a fair criticism when TWO InVasion knockoffs debut at the same time. But since they're invited, are they really invaders then? By that logic, I invade every party I go to. The Nexus was invited by Wade Barrett, who had a contract. I'm only half joking by the way.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 15, 2010 22:53:52 GMT -5
This whole ECW invasion (or invitation) angle is obscuring a much bigger logical flaw that I just KNEW TNA was going to do. Under what possible logic is Abyss the #1 contender? Can anyone justify this based on the match results of the past month? Didn't Jeff Hardy beat him a few weeks ago on Impact? I know RVD was the ref but he did nothing unfair to cost Abyss the match.
Incidentally, why is Jeff going over everyone in the company not named RVD?
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 15, 2010 22:54:31 GMT -5
But since they're invited, are they really invaders then? By that logic, I invade every party I go to. The Nexus was invited by Wade Barrett, who had a contract. I'm only half joking by the way. I guess that means I need to choke out the host with a tie next time and tell her how she's not better than me.
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Paco
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Post by Paco on Jul 15, 2010 22:58:26 GMT -5
Incidentally, why is Jeff going over everyone in the company not named RVD? Cause, if he wasn't in legal trouble, he'd probably be in RVD's spot as Champ. Until that stuff clears, he'll just be TNA's number one star (sans belt).
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 15, 2010 23:00:59 GMT -5
So, Al Snow was on the ECW side...kind of, but didn't know they were invited?
I don't know what's going on. It does make me want to figure this shit out, so good job TNA. YOu got a viewer for next week.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jul 16, 2010 0:18:09 GMT -5
Incidentally, why is Jeff going over everyone in the company not named RVD? Cause, if he wasn't in legal trouble, he'd probably be in RVD's spot as Champ. Until that stuff clears, he'll just be TNA's number one star (sans belt). This, they would basically switch places if Hardy wasn't in legal trouble, Jeff would be champ & RVD would be a top contender. As far as everyone arguing about the end of Impact, all I have to say is...
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MrBRulzOK
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jul 16, 2010 2:05:50 GMT -5
Douglas Williams, Magnus, and Okada obviously love TNA the most to go first. Nah, Okada just wanted to appear on television for once.
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Post by spongeboobnopants on Jul 16, 2010 9:07:39 GMT -5
They realled screwed up Flairs Fortune stable tonight. They introduce 2 members and within a minute those 2 members and Flair are running away from Abyss like scared little girls?
That was really the only sore spot in the show for me. I personally like the ecw angle. It's a new angle that doesn't involve Hogan/Bischoff.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jul 16, 2010 9:37:53 GMT -5
They realled screwed up Flairs Fortune stable tonight. They introduce 2 members and within a minute those 2 members and Flair are running away from Abyss like scared little girls? That was really the only sore spot in the show for me. I personally like the ecw angle. It's a new angle that doesn't involve Hogan/Bischoff. Yes, because the Horsemen never ran away from fights back in the day. And Ric Flair never took DQ losses to retain the title.. Heels play cowardly. And you know what... being scared of a guy with a big old nail bat... yeah.. not that bad.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 16, 2010 9:46:06 GMT -5
Here's the thing though: Jeff IS in legal trouble and when all is said and done might end up in jail. So why are they jobbing everyone out to him, including the guy that is now the #1 contender for no reason? This top 10 thing is goofier than the BCS. Abyss being #1 is like if Alabama beat Florida in the SEC title game, but Florida faced Texas for the national title.
I like Hernandez being #7 somehow over Kurt Angle despite Kurt running roughshod over people and Hernandez losing to Joe. Hernandez' only win of note was over an unranked Matt Morgan, who just lost to Pope in 2 minutes.
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Post by renzino on Jul 16, 2010 10:20:00 GMT -5
I noticed that Christy Hemme wasn't on Impact tonight. It was weird for her not to be there.
Also I guess Miss Tessmacher is in charge of Impact while Eric Bischoff is gone. Well that will at least help to develop her character by making her more of an authority figure.
It would have been nice if Daffney could have had something to do on Impact this week.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jul 16, 2010 11:11:32 GMT -5
Incidentally, why is Jeff going over everyone in the company not named RVD? Because if he didn't have major drug charges over his head, he'd be holding the title instead of RVD. Of course, if he didn't have a major drug case over his head, he'd probably be back in WWE by now. As for this weeks show, there were a few good matches, but the closing angle was a huge letdown. MCMG/Beer Money was a great match with a terrible ending, Hardy/Lethal was way too short and Sarita/Taylor was pretty entertaining for a garbage match. The Abyss stuff is stupid as always and I'm officially sick of The Beautiful People.
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vinnie245
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Post by vinnie245 on Jul 16, 2010 12:58:10 GMT -5
I just realised what the Top 10 is for, It's only purpose is for Kurt Angles Storyline. That's it, apart from that it's not legit in the slightest.
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Post by perucho1990 on Jul 16, 2010 13:28:27 GMT -5
Fun show, BMI/Guns was the MOTN once again, looking forward to their street fight next week, Mex/Angle should be a good match, and then in 2 weeks I see AJ/Angle and for HJ, Angle/Lethal.
And heel Sarita = win, I liked that she is now 2-0 against Taylor.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 16, 2010 15:27:55 GMT -5
I just realised what the Top 10 is for, It's only purpose is for Kurt Angles Storyline. That's it, apart from that it's not legit in the slightest. To be fair it's not legit anyway. also Credit: Pwinsider.com via 411mania
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Post by thatguybayne on Jul 17, 2010 0:46:14 GMT -5
Caught this for the first time in a while and the improvement shows. Loved the knockouts stuff and the rest of the show kept me interested.
The Abyss stuff was a highlight. Janice reminds me of the character of the same name from friends. of course this Janice is much less course.
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Post by The Blue Blazer on Jul 17, 2010 3:49:50 GMT -5
I'm going to try and explain the end of that show just so I can see if I understand what happened.
1. Mick Foley distracts Abyss after not being seen for months. 2. The ECW invaders attacked Abyss (even though everyone figured they were the "they" Abyss had been talking about). 3. The TNA locker room came out to try and HELP Abyss fend off the ECW guys...for some reason. 4. RVD is with the ECW guys. 5. TNA management does a run in where D-Lo Brown and Terry Taylor are helping the TNA guys, while Al Snow and Pat Kenny are helping the ECW guys (I realize Kenny and Snow are both former ECW superstars). 6. Dixie Carter was the one who invited the ECW guys in the first place.
Is that about right? If so...WHAAAAAAT?? While I think Impact is very entertaining, there's just so much stuff going on and everything is mixed together that it's honestly a little confusing.
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Post by mrperfect on Jul 18, 2010 5:49:44 GMT -5
I´m not the right person to give comments about the ECW because i never liked ECW so maybe i´m coloured by that, but still, i´m bored to death by all these invasions. They have been made far too many times. From 1997-2010, nWo, New Blood, nWo again, WCW/ECW, ECW invading RAW, Smackdown vs RAW, MEM, Nexus, they may seem interesting but the invasiongenre is starting to become a parody in itself. But this invasion was not as near as interesting as the Nexus invasion. I´m not a huge fan of the Nexus-angle either, becuase it´s too many wrestlers that those who don´t watch NXT doesn´t know who it is. But the Nexusangle got people talking, When Nexus jumped Cena, they tore up the mat and jumped the personal which was something new and unusual. Here TNA is doing only one thing right that WWE should have done, the other wrestlers comes out and show that they care for TNA, heel or face. However, everything else there after is just an allout brawl where no one seems to have a clue what to do, who´s in the ring, who´s hitting who. Shouldn´t the guys who´s invading at least have the upperhand and take over if it is an invasion?! Second i´m not sure that i wanna see an invasion made by old guys who´s in the end of their career and who, with exception from RVD, now are lower card guys. Sorry all TNA-fans, but i think this invasion will be forgotten within a year. It has been done before, it´s poorly done and the wrestlers are old and i don´t think even Heyman can save it. Those are my thoughts.
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