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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 4, 2010 9:05:45 GMT -5
BuckyCap is a soldier whose main job in the war was as a shar shooter. He was then the Winter Soldier. Man knows how to use a gun, he should use it. Moonstone is a Thunderbolt because she is both stupidly powerful (although they have taken her powers away on the whole) and too manipulative to be left alone. Better to have her working for Cage and being used, than sat plotting an escape and whinding up all the other inmates to do the heavy work for her. Songbird went lesbian. Well, her hair says she did. Wolverine should not be an Avenger. He's a fine New Avenger. But simply should NOT be a proper Avenger. But then neither should Spiderman and Rulk. Bendis Avengers, as said on the previous page, is now Marvel's version of the JLA when that team has the big guns on it. That doesn't do it for me at all, but it must for some, as it flies off the shelves. the problem with Bendis' approach to team building with the Avengers is that Marvel;s most popular heroes aren't necessarilly their most powerful heroes, nor are the suited to the kind of thing the Avengers do. Wolverine is best left to his own titles and the X-titles, where he fits. Spider-man and Luke Cage are street level heroes who deal with local criminal problems. they're not the kind of people I call in to deal with an alien invasion. Bendis had the right idea with his Mighty Avengers lineup. it should be a team of the most powerful heroes. Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel, for instance, are totally suited to saving the world from intergalactic conquerors on a daily basis. Spider-man has super glue.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 4, 2010 9:08:50 GMT -5
Moonstone is a Thunderbolt because she is both stupidly powerful (although they have taken her powers away on the whole) and too manipulative to be left alone. Better to have her working for Cage and being used, than sat plotting an escape and whinding up all the other inmates to do the heavy work for her. No, better to take her powers away and keep her in a cell for the rest of time. Seriously, aren't there any female villains who could actually serve a purpose on the Thunderbolts besides Songbird? Well... Monstone IS an original T-bolt, and I think she got picked because Jeff Parker is making a concious effort at writing a comic around the original team after Diggle pretty much ditched them during his run. beyond that I have no idea why she's still there, though. if Ms. Marvel still had her own title, I would've liked to see her continue as a major Ms. marvel villain, it was the first time in years that Moonstone was anything other than a one-note manipulative skank.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 4, 2010 13:01:51 GMT -5
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that Lady Deathstrike would be great on the Thunderbolts team. What's she doing now, anyways?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 4, 2010 13:08:45 GMT -5
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that Lady Deathstrike would be great on the Thunderbolts team. What's she doing now, anyways? She was a T-bolt, briefly. Civil War.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 4, 2010 13:17:09 GMT -5
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that Lady Deathstrike would be great on the Thunderbolts team. What's she doing now, anyways? She was a T-bolt, briefly. Civil War. Well, yeah, but I barely count that. I know it DOES count, but that was really more of a "villain army we're gonna CALL the Thunderbolts" more than it was an actual team. In that same way, I don't really consider Jack O'Lantern a T-Bolt either, even though technically, he was.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 4, 2010 13:26:57 GMT -5
In that same way, I don't really consider Jack O'Lantern a T-Bolt either, even though technically, he was. That's ok. We do, so all's good.
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Post by The Tank on Sept 4, 2010 13:29:51 GMT -5
I don't know if Deathstrike would be a very good Thunderbolt, but definitely better than Moonstone.
At least she's honest about being a psychopath.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2010 16:21:00 GMT -5
If we're counting the Civil War T-Bolts army Doc Ock should be on the team. He just fits there mold so well.
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Post by The Tank on Sept 4, 2010 16:49:38 GMT -5
If we're counting the Civil War T-Bolts army Doc Ock should be on the team. He just fits there mold so well. It would be nice to see him get to DO SOMETHING.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Sept 4, 2010 19:52:09 GMT -5
BuckyCap is a soldier whose main job in the war was as a shar shooter. He was then the Winter Soldier. Man knows how to use a gun, he should use it. Moonstone is a Thunderbolt because she is both stupidly powerful (although they have taken her powers away on the whole) and too manipulative to be left alone. Better to have her working for Cage and being used, than sat plotting an escape and whinding up all the other inmates to do the heavy work for her. Songbird went lesbian. Well, her hair says she did. Wolverine should not be an Avenger. He's a fine New Avenger. But simply should NOT be a proper Avenger. But then neither should Spiderman and Rulk. Bendis Avengers, as said on the previous page, is now Marvel's version of the JLA when that team has the big guns on it. That doesn't do it for me at all, but it must for some, as it flies off the shelves. the problem with Bendis' approach to team building with the Avengers is that Marvel;s most popular heroes aren't necessarilly their most powerful heroes, nor are the suited to the kind of thing the Avengers do. Wolverine is best left to his own titles and the X-titles, where he fits. Spider-man and Luke Cage are street level heroes who deal with local criminal problems. they're not the kind of people I call in to deal with an alien invasion. Bendis had the right idea with his Mighty Avengers lineup. it should be a team of the most powerful heroes. Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel, for instance, are totally suited to saving the world from intergalactic conquerors on a daily basis. Spider-man has super glue. I don't think its the powers of the characters that make them a poor fit. I mean, guys like Captain America and Hawkeye are almost synonymous with the team, and they certainly don't have great power. Still, I'm definitely in agreement with your other points.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Sept 5, 2010 0:10:37 GMT -5
So, you know what I'm sick of? Why the hell is Moonstone STILL a Thunderbolt? Seriously, that bitch has shown time and time and TIME again that she isn't going to reform, and flat out doesn't want to reform. she's still on the team because they needed a Ms. Fanservice and the current artist is an idiot who forgot that Songbird is supposed to be hot. my opinion anyway. No, better to take her powers away and keep her in a cell for the rest of time. Seriously, aren't there any female villains who could actually serve a purpose on the Thunderbolts besides Songbird? I don't know if Deathstrike would be a very good Thunderbolt, but definitely better than Moonstone. At least she's honest about being a psychopath. One thing you've all seemed to have forgotten is that before Ellis's run on Tbolts Moonstone had accidentally came into possession of a large amount of energy that drove her crazy. To stop her the TBolts & Avengers had to put her in a coma, before that she actually was being a ero & doing a honest job of it. Was she the most ideal hero? No she wasn't but she actually was trying & before Jolt decided to stay on Earth-2 she actually had a positive relationship Moonstone that was kind of a Older/Younger sister dynamic. When Ellis took over he brought her out of the coma &.............decided to go back on all her development & make her a evil bitch again & it stuck unfortunately. One thing I hope Diggle does, instead of just simply washing away all the stuff that happened under Ellis's run he has an out to use the Energy Absorption incident & say it was still affecting her. This way All the things she's done under Ellis's run can still come into play & she can logically be considered a hero again. Especially if she makes up a bit with Songbird or if something like Jolt coming back or she forms a relationship with the Troll girl like Diggle has dropped hints that she might. I just got "Blackest Night" and all i can say is "wow", And I'm only 2 chapters in. Blackest Night was okay during the first two issues. Afterwards it became extremely boring, drawnout, & totally predictable. And I really really really hate what it's done to Kendra & how much it shitted on the current Firestorm.
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Post by Legion on Sept 5, 2010 9:32:52 GMT -5
Moonstones next big story?
Helping Cage cheat on Jessica.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 9:37:01 GMT -5
She'll f*** Juggernaut.
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Post by The Tank on Sept 5, 2010 9:40:23 GMT -5
Moonstones next big story? Helping Cage cheat on Jessica. Yes, because that's new and original... *looks back at the old school T-Bolts, namely Moonstone trying to bone Hawkeye* OH, WAIT.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 9:50:21 GMT -5
So I know they Songbird,MACH and Fixer but do they have Atlas as well?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2010 9:51:33 GMT -5
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that Lady Deathstrike would be great on the Thunderbolts team. What's she doing now, anyways? she WAS going to be a Thunderbolt during Warren Ellis' run, but Ed Brubaker wanted to use her for Messiah CompleX and it wouldn't have made sense for her to be in both, so they didn't end up using her in T-bolts. I don't know what she's been up to since X-23 handed her ass to her in Messiah CompleX
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Post by The Tank on Sept 5, 2010 9:52:32 GMT -5
So I know they Songbird,MACH and Fixer but do they have Atlas as well? Isn't Atlas dead? EDIT: Apparently not...........just doing nothing. Personally, I've always been of the opinion that Lady Deathstrike would be great on the Thunderbolts team. What's she doing now, anyways? she WAS going to be a Thunderbolt during Warren Ellis' run, but Ed Brubaker wanted to use her for Messiah CompleX and it wouldn't have made sense for her to be in both, so they didn't end up using her in T-bolts. I don't know what she's been up to since X-23 handed her ass to her in Messiah CompleX As far as I know, nothing. I could be wrong. (She may have died in one of Wolverine's solo books, though.)
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2010 9:55:36 GMT -5
Moonstones next big story? Helping Cage cheat on Jessica. Yes, because that's new and original... *looks back at the old school T-Bolts, namely Moonstone trying to bone Hawkeye* OH, WAIT. to be fair, she really did love him. and Atlas hasn't been seen or heard since he ended up in a Giant Person Coma at the end of Fabian Nicieza's run on T-bolts. and I really don't think that Luke Cage would cheat on Jessica with Moonstone. he's not perfect, but he's a good guy. and he's not stupid enough to be led on by someone like Karla anyway. Juggernaught, on the other hand, I could totaly see.
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Post by The Tank on Sept 5, 2010 9:57:22 GMT -5
and Atlas hasn't been seen or heard since he ended up in a Giant Person Coma at the end of Fabian Nicieza's run on T-bolts. Actually, Atlas showed up in Initiative. But he's done nothing since then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2010 10:01:20 GMT -5
He was also in that Mini-Series about the Defenders. I figured they'd use him since he fits in with the group and I'd assume they'd be happy to see he's not a Giant Vegetable anymore.
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