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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 22, 2010 0:30:53 GMT -5
I just think all of Kaval's losses will lead to something. Maybe he'll get upset and turn heel or something. The thing is, he's just lost to the guy who got beat for about 3 months straight by a midget. Who could possibly take that guy seriously as a heel? Lest we forget that he was handicapped in some fashion in almost every match? Of course he couldn't be taken seriously as a heel if e was being screwed over every single time. Back on-topic, as long it was an even competitive match and not simply a Chavo squash, it's fine by me.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 22, 2010 0:33:53 GMT -5
The thing is, he's just lost to the guy who got beat for about 3 months straight by a midget. Who could possibly take that guy seriously as a heel? Lest we forget that he was handicapped in some fashion in almost every match? Of course he couldn't be taken seriously as a heel if e was being screwed over every single time. Back on-topic, as long it was an even competitive match and not simply a Chavo squash, it's fine by me. But the thing is, people WON'T remember that fact. All they'll remember is "Heh, dude lost to a midget ,and he beat this guy?" And, from the sound of it, it looks like Kaval dominated the match, then Chavo came back to win clean, no cheating. That doesn't do much for Kaval's credibility either, since the head jobber can take everything he can dish out and still pull of a clean win.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 22, 2010 0:40:58 GMT -5
Lest we forget that he was handicapped in some fashion in almost every match? Of course he couldn't be taken seriously as a heel if e was being screwed over every single time. Back on-topic, as long it was an even competitive match and not simply a Chavo squash, it's fine by me. But the thing is, people WON'T remember that fact. All they'll remember is "Heh, dude lost to a midget ,and he beat this guy?" And, from the sound of it, it looks like Kaval dominated the match, then Chavo came back to win clean, no cheating. That doesn't do much for Kaval's credibility either, since the head jobber can take everything he can dish out and still pull of a clean win. Maybe that's true, but I've never been the kind of guy to say "He lost to so-and-so, I can't take him seriously anymore" simply because of how WWE can pull the trigger on a megapush for anyone at any time. When Kaval starts losing in less than a minute to Tyler Reks, then I'd be worried.
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Post by ace r0ckolla on Sept 22, 2010 0:41:13 GMT -5
it even seemed that the crowd cheered for Chavo, if only because he finished the match off with the frog splash. People didn't know what to do.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 22, 2010 0:42:34 GMT -5
it even seemed that the crowd cheered for Chavo, if only because he finished the match off with the frog splash. People didn't know what to do. Yikes. Oh, well, at least Kaval's getting a paycheck.
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Post by ace r0ckolla on Sept 22, 2010 1:05:46 GMT -5
The only thing I can think of, is that an Eddie chant broke out and maybe that just confused people so they got behind Chavo, but the Eddie chant didn't seem to be a large one at the time. I'm interested in seeing how it looks and sounds on tv.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 22, 2010 1:10:38 GMT -5
Shouldn't the results be wrapped in the spoilers tag, since it doesn't air until Friday?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 1:16:06 GMT -5
Shouldn't the results be wrapped in the spoilers tag, since it doesn't air until Friday? Doesn't really matter - the thread's marked for spoilers, and even if they were in a spoiler tag mousing over the thread would still give you some details of it. They wouldn't serve any actual point. In either case, sounds like an awesome ending to a terrible show. One thing I'm surprised to not hear people talk about is what a clusterf*** that MVP / Ziggler match sounds like and, for that matter, how MVP's supposed to be the good guy for by the sounds of it continuing to attack Ziggles while he was trying to keep Vickie out of harm's way.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 22, 2010 1:58:04 GMT -5
Lest we forget that he was handicapped in some fashion in almost every match? Of course he couldn't be taken seriously as a heel if e was being screwed over every single time. Back on-topic, as long it was an even competitive match and not simply a Chavo squash, it's fine by me. But the thing is, people WON'T remember that fact. All they'll remember is "Heh, dude lost to a midget ,and he beat this guy?" And, from the sound of it, it looks like Kaval dominated the match, then Chavo came back to win clean, no cheating. That doesn't do much for Kaval's credibility either, since the head jobber can take everything he can dish out and still pull of a clean win. If they don't remember the circumstances, what are the odds they remember the matches much at all? It's kind of a non issue.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 22, 2010 2:06:33 GMT -5
But the thing is, people WON'T remember that fact. All they'll remember is "Heh, dude lost to a midget ,and he beat this guy?" And, from the sound of it, it looks like Kaval dominated the match, then Chavo came back to win clean, no cheating. That doesn't do much for Kaval's credibility either, since the head jobber can take everything he can dish out and still pull of a clean win. If they don't remember the circumstances, what are the odds they remember the matches much at all? It's kind of a non issue. Maybe, But I still think losing to Chavo is a bad omen for someone's career.
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Post by hoganhallnash on Sept 22, 2010 2:18:27 GMT -5
As far as Paul Bearer is concerned, I'm assuming since WWE is PG-TV they are going to completely omit the fact that he was murdered in 2004, but since the writer of that angle more than likely went back to writing for Spongebob Square Pants, they probably completely forgot it happened in the first place.
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Post by Zen411 on Sept 22, 2010 3:55:08 GMT -5
The Paul Bearer bit is awesome. I can't wait to see that. I wish it happened at the PPV but oh well. I know this is leading to a final Taker run though.
So Hornswoggle has no problem beating Chavo anytime he wants but Season 2 NXT winner can't?
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Sept 22, 2010 5:33:23 GMT -5
People are going to be shocked at how small Bearer is. He was 513 before the surgery in fall of 2003. He was around 450ish for his WWE run and now apparently he's down to around 250. Here's a recent pic of him from his Facebook. ![](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs649.snc4/60972_10150091314264498_829519497_6964814_1838889_n.jpg) He's still a full-time mortician in Mobile, Alabama. He briefly had a wrestling promotion (Gulf South Wrestling) and he lost his wife to cancer in January 2009. It'll be good to see him back on TV.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 22, 2010 6:29:20 GMT -5
Only one possible response to Paul Bearer being back....OHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
I am so glad they're going the whole nine yards with this feud. Taker being revitalized by the Power of the Urn is one of those things you'd laugh about wanting to see but would sadly feel they'd consider too cheesy to bring back, but no, dammit, they're going to do just that and bless their hearts for doing so.
It's tremendous.
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Post by AndyUK on Sept 22, 2010 6:35:01 GMT -5
Taker being revitalized by the Power of the Urn is one of those things you'd laugh about wanting to see but would sadly feel they'd consider too cheesy to bring back, but no, dammit, they're going to do just that and bless their hearts for doing so. Yeah, this a thousand times. Bearer being back is awesome, I was hoping for it. This whole angle has been catered towards the older fan and people have the nerve to say they don't do anything for us anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they forgot all about how he went out the last time but oh well, it's definitely a good thing that he's part of this feud. It just makes it complete. As for the rest of the show, sounds solid but unspectacular. Surprised at Kaval losing to Chavo though, I wonder if it's leading to something.
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Post by Johnny D on Sept 22, 2010 6:45:06 GMT -5
* Kane says WWE is now his yard. He says the phenom has fallen and he didn't end things at Night of Champions because the fun just started. He wants The Undertaker at Hell in a Cell. The druids come to ringside with a casket... it's a red casket - just for Kane. Kane opens it and Paul Bearer is in the casket. He sits up and the lights go out. Undertaker is in the ring. A fight ensues with Undertaker dominating. Kane leaves the ring and the show ends with Undertaker bowing to Paul Bearer to end the show. *marks the f*** out like a little girl*
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 22, 2010 6:47:47 GMT -5
The ending sounds awesome but yeah it also makes no sense basic only anyone who watched in 2004.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Sept 22, 2010 7:38:59 GMT -5
He's still a full-time mortician in Mobile, Alabama. Well, that explains where he got the urn from. Interestingly enough, when I worked in the funeral home industry, I found out that that style of urn, as shiny and neat as it looks, is actually the cheapest urn you can buy. I think my funeral home sold it for $89.99.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 22, 2010 8:54:43 GMT -5
If they don't remember the circumstances, what are the odds they remember the matches much at all? It's kind of a non issue. Maybe, But I still think losing to Chavo is a bad omen for someone's career. Punk lost to not only him, but also Hardcore Holly, so it's not the end of the road for Kaval.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 22, 2010 8:58:18 GMT -5
This is playing out exactly how I predicted Undertaker would be retired about 3 years ago. I demand royalties.
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